Route Suggestions (Part 5)

last SG · 2013-12-18T00:11:01+00:00

Suggesting a route extension for 198.VIa Jln Bukit Merah, Cantonment road, Expressway, Fort Road, Mountbatten Road, Amber road, Marine parade road, bedok sou...

SMB145B SG

Your 850 is great,Maybe can start from Sembawang instead and parent svc routes should always be longer than its express svc.Can start with 8 DDs and 8 SDs between Wldep and Amdep

but his 850 should remain as it is. since 85x are all starting from Yishun except 858 which passes by Yishun.

carbikebus SG

but his 850 should remain as it is. since 85x are all starting from Yishun except 858 which passes by Yishun.

859 start/Finish/Change shift at Sembawang.

SMB145B SG

Yes, my proposed 850 here is to supplement the current 850E. So that there isn't passengers which cannot board the bus during the morning peak hours and also provide connectivity for passengers other than the MRTs.

Maybe I twitch the route a bit...
Yishun Interchange, Yishun Central, (Current route of my 850 & Existing 850E), Exit CTE to Moulmein Rd, Newton Rd, Scotts Rd, Orchard Rd... (Back to route at Dhoby Ghaut)

Return leg: Penang Rd, Somerset Rd, Orchard Link, Orchard Turn, Paterson Rd, Scotts Rd, Newton Rd, Moulmein Rd, CTE.... (Current route of my 850 & existing 850E), Yishun Central, Yishun Interchange

Maybe it is too windy then you all can give suggestion of any cutbacks on the route.. :)

your route is generally okay.

SMB145B SG

859 start/Finish/Change shift at Sembawang.

dafuq?

ah that explains why 859A/B acts as a Sembawang feeder.

AntiDennisLance SG

Your 850 is great,Maybe can start from Sembawang instead and parent svc routes should always be longer than its express svc.Can start with 8 DDs and 8 SDs between Wldep and Amdep

Can have a 167E instead. Then no need for SBW pax wasting time in Yishun.

AJQZC SG

Can have a 167E instead. Then no need for SBW pax wasting time in Yishun.

Too bad NSE isn't ready yet though ... 167E will still have to pass through Yishun town.

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SBS7557R SG

As per the suggestions for lesser feeder services for more short haul trunk services, here are some suggestions (more to be topped up later):

Hougang

Sv115: Merge with Service 119
Sv119: Extended to loop at Hougang Ave 3

Punggol Temp Int, (Punggol Pl), Punggol Field, (Punggol Way), Sengkang East Rd, Sengkang East Way, Rivervale Dr, Sengkang East Ave, Punggol Rd, Hougang Ave 10, Hougang Ave 8, Upp Serangoon Rd, Hougang St 21, Hougang Ave 1, (Lor Ah Soo), Hougang Ave 3, Upp Serangoon Rd, Hougang Ave 8, Hougang Ave 10, Punggol Rd, Sengkang East Ave, Rivervale Dr, Sengkang East Way, Sengkang East Rd, (Punggol Way), Punggol Field, (Punggol Pl), Punggol Temp Int

Woodlands/Yishun

Currently the residential towns with the second most and most number of feeders (6 in Yishun & 8 in Woodlands respectively). Thus, some possible feeder integration between Yishun & Woodlands can be done, as well as the amendment of some trunks to ply the inner roads in Woodlands/Yishun

Sv803: Merge with Service 904 to form sv861
Sv904: Merge with Service 803 to form sv861
New Sv861: Yishun to Woodlands (Loop)

Yishun Temp Int, (Yishun Central), Yishun Ave 9, Yishun Ring Rd, Yishun St 31, Yishun Ave 6, Yishun Ave 7, Gambas Ave, Woodlands Ave 9, Woodlands Ave 6, (Woodlands Dr 60), Woodlands Cres, (Woodlands Dr 72), Woodlands Dr 73, Woodlands Dr 62, Woodlands Ave 6, Woodlands Ave 7, Woodlands Reg Int, Woodlands Ave 7, Woodlands Ave 6, Woodlands Dr 62, Woodlands Dr 73, (Woodlands Dr 72), Woodlands Cres, (Woodlands Dr 60), Woodlands Ave 6, Woodlands Ave 9, Gambas Ave, Yishun Ave 7, Yishun Ave 6, Yishun St 31, Yishun Ring Rd, Yishun Ave 9, (Yishun Central), Yishun Temp Int.

** The integrated sv861 will provide an additional alternative between Yishun and Yishun Industrial Park A apart from sv811 and direct connections from Woodlands Reg Int/MRT & Admiralty MRT stations to the industrial park, while retaining the original links of sv803/sv904.

For Woodlands, 1 intra-town could be removed in place of a new short trunk as it has the most (i.e. 3) integrated feeder services (i.e. TownLinks/Intra-Towns) by far compared to Pasir Ris (2 TownLinks), Tampines (2 TownLinks), Bedok (1 TownLink), Ang Mo Kio (2 TownLinks), Choa Chu Kang (1 Intratown) & Yishun (2 Intratowns).

In this case, sv911 may be the intra-town easiest to be integrated into a short haul trunk, while sv912 & sv913 have more complex routes that are more difficult to be replaced.

With Sembawang still having sufficient space for new routes, it would be the most ideal to introduce a new route from there linking to Woodlands Ctr Rd and replacing sv911.

New sv881: Sembawang to Woodlands Ctr Rd (Loop)
Sv911: Withdrawn, replaced by sv881

Sembawang Int, (Sembawang Vista), Sembawang Dr, Sembawang Way, Canberra Rd, Admiralty Dr, Sembawang Way, Woodlands Ave 7, Gambas Ave, Woodlands Ave 9, Woodlands Ave 2, Woodlands St 81, Woodlands St 82, Woodlands Ave 4, Woodlands St 83, Woodlands Ave 7, Woodlands Reg Int, (Woodlands Ave 3), Woodlands St 13, Woodlands Centre Rd, Woodlands St 13, (Woodlands Ave 3), Woodlands Reg Int, Woodlands Ave 7, Woodlands St 83, Woodlands Ave 4, Woodlands St 82, Woodlands St 81, Woodlands Ave 2, Woodlands Ave 9, Gambas Ave, Woodlands Ave 7, Sembawang Way, Admiralty Dr, Canberra Rd, Sembawang Way, Sembawang Dr, (Sembawang Vista), Sembawang Int.

** The new sv881 will have an en-route stop in Woodlands Reg Int in both directions to minimize the impact of the discontinuation of sv911

** Supplements part of Admiralty Dr currently only served by sv980 (on a full day basis) and a faster route to another segment of Admiralty Dr currently only served by sv859/859A/859B

** Provides additional inter-town connections between Woodlands and Sembawang apart from sv858/sv962

Sbs6750E SG

324, 325 and 371 can merge one as said in Page 71/72 of this thread.

dupdup77 SG

As per the suggestions for lesser feeder services for more short haul trunk services, here are some suggestions (more to be topped up later):

Clementi

Sv282: Amend to ply Clementi Ave 4 in both directions
Sv284: Merge with Service 282

Clementi Int, (Clementi Ave 3), Clementi Ave 4, Clementi Ave 5, Clementi Ave 2, Clementi West St 2, West Coast Rd, Clementi Ave 2, Clementi Ave 5, Clementi Ave 4, (Clementi Ave 3), Clementi Int

Hougang

Sv115: Merge with Service 119
Sv119: Extended to loop at Hougang Ave 3

Woodlands/Yishun

Sv803: Merge with Service 904 to form sv861
Sv904: Merge with Service 803 to form sv861
New Sv861: Yishun to Woodlands (Loop)

In this case, sv911 may be the intra-town easiest to be integrated into a short haul trunk, while sv912 & sv913 have more complex routes that are more difficult to be replaced.

With Sembawang still having sufficient space for new routes, it would be the most ideal to introduce a new route from there linking to Woodlands Ctr Rd and replacing sv911.

New sv881: Sembawang to Woodlands Ctr Rd (Loop)
Sv911: Withdrawn, replaced by sv881

** The new sv881 will have an en-route stop in Woodlands Reg Int in both directions to minimize the impact of the discontinuation of sv911

** Supplements part of Admiralty Dr currently only served by sv980 (on a full day basis) and a faster route to another segment of Admiralty Dr currently only served by sv859/859A/859B

** Provides additional inter-town connections between Woodlands and Sembawang apart from sv858/sv962

Hi mr SBS7557R, so what happens to the deep end of Clementi ave 4? Are you removing that sector or you are introducing a double plated (white and green plate) Sbs 282? One direction is to go towards Clementi ave 5 and the other is to go towards Clementi interchange? Because judging by your route, those living near Blk 308 bus stop may have to travel the full route (one round) just to reach Clementi interchange? A feeder service should not be like that if you combine 2 together. Not just combine for the sake of saving 1 service and end up inconveniencing a whole lot of residents. Feeder service must directly bring residents to mrt! Cheers.

TIB429E SG

Morning Peak ONLY

SMRT 912A
Woodlands Reg. Int >> Adm Stn

*To remove 912E if frequency is doing well for returning trip(912).

SMRT 904
Change of route ; current route is redundant..

Woodlands Reg Int
Woodlands Av2
Woodlands Av5
Woodlands Av4
Woodlands Av7
*Usual route*

> Enhance commuters along Av5/4 to "choose" which stations to go, sucks to stuck in the middle of the 2 mrt station
> Enhance Sv912/962 loading during peak hours(AM) to WRI, esp along Av5.

SBS7557R SG

I was thinking for sv282 to call at all three Ave 4 stops (incl Blk 308) towards both Clementi West St 2 and Clementi Int, but nvm, it would become more confusing for the residents anws.

TIB868X SG

Morning Peak ONLY

SMRT 912A
Woodlands Reg. Int >> Adm Stn

*To remove 912E if frequency is doing well for returning trip(912).

SMRT 904
Change of route ; current route is redundant..

Woodlands Reg Int
Woodlands Av2
Woodlands Av5
Woodlands Av4
Woodlands Av7
*Usual route*

> Enhance commuters along Av5/4 to "choose" which stations to go, sucks to stuck in the middle of the 2 mrt station
> Enhance Sv912/962 loading during peak hours(AM) to WRI, esp along Av5.

904's amendment would greatly inconvenience commuters who ride it to the loop point, which is the majority.

dupdup77 SG

I was thinking for sv282 to call at all three Ave 4 stops (incl Blk 308) towards both Clementi West St 2 and Clementi Int, but nvm, it would become more confusing for the residents anws.

Hi mr SBS7557R, precisely you hit the point. That is what SBS 282 and SBS 284 are separate services. Sbs 284 is short but no choice to cater for this. So this point will invalidate your suggestion to combine the 2 services. Cheers. Thanks.

BusAnalayzer SG

Feeder service should be direct... then 282 should not do ave 5 as well... as west st 2 residents are inconvenienced with a long loop via ave 5 before going to Clementi MRT.

Likewise there are other feeder services whose routes need to be improved to provide direct connectivity including sv 315 that is so long winding to Serangoon North Ave 1, sv 269 that is quite long winding to st 61... I think the reason why some of these routes are planned long winding is to provide some intra town connectivity as well...

TIB429E SG

904's amendment would greatly inconvenience commuters who ride it to the loop point, which is the majority.

I doubt so...

Currently, 904 intervals is lousy compared to 913/964. Commuters often spotted leaving 904 queue to take 913/964 instead before 904 arrive mins later.

Further more, pax. coming from the looping point mostly alight at Adm Stn. If they are travelling to Wdl, they are likely to take 913. There's even empty bus leaving WRI in the morning peak.

dupdup77 SG

Feeder service should be direct... then 282 should not do ave 5 as well... as west st 2 residents are inconvenienced with a long loop via ave 5 before going to Clementi MRT.

Hi mr busanalyser. point not valid. Go through ave 2 (1 stop) and Ave 5 (1 stop) requires 2 stop. Go through commonwealth ave west (after Clementi ave 2) is also 2 stops. Though the former route is slightly longer in distance, the traffic is much lesser than the super crowded commonwealth Ave west. Time will be about 1-2 min longer only. Cheers. Thanks.

Sbs6750E SG

232 is another example, winding around Tpy Central tw Lor 7.

TIB1112L SG

Service 117: Punggol - Seletar - Sengkang

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=z-ZflH1PNuy8.kqxsVWI9Dpno&usp=sharing

BusAnalayzer SG

860: Sembawang Interchange <> Khatib MRT

Sembawang Interchange -- Canberra Road -- Yishun Ave 2 -- Yishun Ave 7 -- Yishun Ave 6 -- Yishun Ave 9 -- Yishun Ring Road -- Yishun Ave 3 -- Yishun Ave 2 -- Yishun Ring Road -- Yishun Ave 9 -- Yishun Ave 6 -- Yishun Ave 7 -- Yishun Ave 2 -- Canberra Road -- Sembawang Interchange

** Missing link between Yishun MRT and Ring Road covered by 803/804/806

** Connects Yishun Ave 7/6/9 to Khatib MRT

** Provides direct connectivity to Sembawang residents to Ring Road.. without having to transfer to MRT/bus at Yishun MRT (and the long walk from temp interchange)

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