SMRT launches Alexander Dennis Enviro 500 MMC

last SG · 2014-05-30T23:42:13+00:00

They will definitely give a bulk of DDs to Sv 190... But SMRT does not have experience with DDs... Why add to the problems of 190... Better to try out on 963...

TIB429E SG

3568 - 966 a few days back..

TIB429E SG

LOL. I can only bet that the upper deck will be crowded with pax from WRI during early morning peak and the lower deck will be full at Admiralty MRT.

P.S AM Peak Students from Admiralty Sec/Pri will take 964 not only workers so DD.

PM peak. I believe not many people go up. 100+ pax alighted at Admiralty MRT. When a bendy and SD bunched up. After that 964 become empty. Students go back during off peak so it offset the load on 964 plus they can chose 904 or 913

Morning peak confirm whole bus full. Ever seen a few 964 buses leaving WRI with pax packed to the doors.[SDs n Bendy] If you stand at Berth7 in the morning around 7:40am, you will observe that even if 964(and 169) arrives at <5mins per bus, the queue is still long.

As for evening peak, most likely 75% will stay at lower deck, 25% will go up.[I may be wrong, will do a check from 3-5pm slots]

BusAnalayzer SG

As for evening peak, most likely 75% will stay at lower deck, 25% will go up.[I may be wrong, will do a check from 3-5pm slots]

It is okay if 75% stay on lower deck and 25% go up... the bus will still carry more pax than a rigid. 964 needs bendies or DDs. It is catastrophic to have SDs on it. It is like putting a SD on sv 254.

carbikebus SG

Were not talking about 254 cause 964 used to be full bendy fleets..

BusAnalayzer SG

Were not talking about 254 cause 964 used to be full bendy fleets..

Point is better to use BSEP rigid or DD? Question here is not bendy v/s DD... it is BSEP MANA22 v/s BSEP E500.

carbikebus SG

Wrong mode of buses deployed thats the issue here..Maybe its just a trial,if effective then let it be if not back to bendy buses.As for me im fine with it as long the route is above 8 km

BusAnalayzer SG

Hoping to see DDs on sv 67 and sv 960 soon.

Gemsdare SG

Hoping to see DDs on sv 67 and sv 960 soon.

Last 2 weeks, I spotted a training DD bus possibly on route 960 to WRI on Woodlands Road near Kranji Station. Or 961 not very sure.

BusAnalayzer SG

Last 2 weeks, I spotted a training DD bus possibly on route 960 to WRI on Woodlands Road near Kranji Station. Or 961 not very sure.

Should be 960... 961 would have already got DD if it had to coz apart from lor 1 trees, there is no height/turning constraint anywhere.

BusAnalayzer SG

I suspect we will see some new SMRT DDs on road tomorrow. Probably for 67, 960.

SMB1333T SG

I suspect we will see some new SMRT DDs on road tomorrow. Probably for 67, 960.

nope jan bsep round alr last wk over liao need wait next month

unless u saying non bsep which is still very unlikely

BusAnalayzer SG

nope jan bsep round alr last wk over liao need wait next month

unless u saying non bsep which is still very unlikely

so u mean only 2 BSEP DD buses deployed in month of Jan - one on 964 and other on 187??? that's absurd considering 40 DDs are SP

carbikebus SG

40 DDs??Mostly cameo on svc like 176,188,190,966 & 969 for e time being.67 might get 4 DDs,The Amdep 3 Bsep transfer to Kranji..960 might get 3-4 for a start

BusAnalayzer SG

40 DDs??Mostly cameo on svc like 176,188,190,966 & 969 for e time being.67 might get 4 DDs,The Amdep 3 Bsep transfer to Kranji..960 might get 3-4 for a start

Yes... but the person above says only next month.. so this means for Jan only 2 of the 40+ spare BSEP Enviros deployed.

TIB429E SG

Onb 3537J 169 around 7:35pm from WRI..

Bus was delayed due to the bus being "full and packed"...yeah..lower deck full ; upper deck I guess like 20% or more full..

If it's not for the BC asking the Foreign workers to move up(to upper deck), I guess many pax. would not be able to board the bus. After the foreign workers moved up, the bus departed with pax standing uptill doors and some didn't board. By then, upper deck is left with only 15-20 or less seats.

Seems like DD might not be 100% suitable for 169 either..

Imagine all Foreign Workers crowd on the lower deck of the DDs at Little India..or stand at upperdeck/stairs...BC confirm kpkb much...

And it happened to SBST before..on those VO2/3-axles..I have seen before ppl sitting on stairs onboard 2xx(JIE svc), on VO2x..

BusAnalayzer SG

Onb 3537J 169 around 7:35pm from WRI..

Bus was delayed due to the bus being "full and packed"...yeah..lower deck full ; upper deck I guess like 20% or more full..

Seems like DD might not be 100% suitable for 169 either..

Imagine all Foreign Workers crowd on the lower deck of the DDs at Little India..or stand at upperdeck/stairs...BC confirm kpkb much...

And it happened to SBST before..on those VO2/3-axles..I have seen before ppl sitting on stairs onboard 2xx(JIE svc), on VO2x..

Not better than the BSEP MAN SDs on the route? I am sure it is a bonus to have DDs than have rigids on this service.

Gemsdare SG

Onb 3537J 169 around 7:35pm from WRI..

Bus was delayed due to the bus being "full and packed"...yeah..lower deck full ; upper deck I guess like 20% or more full..

Seems like DD might not be 100% suitable for 169 either..

Imagine all Foreign Workers crowd on the lower deck of the DDs at Little India..or stand at upperdeck/stairs...BC confirm kpkb much...

To my observation, 169 is still 100% suitable but the problem is there will be about <50% of Foreign Workers moving upper deck or [moving to the rear(rigids&bendy)] from Yishun to their dormitory and same doesn't help during weekend.

And as for 960, most of the crowd from Bugis will go up then will it reach Little India it will be equaliser especially on weekend.

BusAnalayzer SG

IMO, some people are very paranoid with DDs. It is okay if upper deck is not full. DD will still carry more pax than a rigid. Those who want comfortable journey can go to upper deck, sit and relax.

I have taken sv 169 previously and I saw full upper deck from AMK to Springleaf area. It is not just industrial service workers but a lot of residents, students also take service between AMK and Yishun.

Also, those who board near Seneko to go to WRI, also go to upper deck. I think there is a small patch between Yishun and Canberra, where distance is too short, and people rather stay downstairs and that is okay.

Overall, 169 is still in need of more bendies or DDs. They need to kick out more rigids from the service.

carbikebus SG

Its better to ask those Foreign Workers to move up or rear rather than our stubborn locals..Ive seen those JIS sitting on stairs and lower deck standees all the way to the rear..

SinkTel SG

SMB3570L -> KJ

on 190 tdy.

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