LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP) (Part 2)

last SG · 2013-12-16T21:55:55+00:00

74 needs BSEP. Loading at AMK MRT is high. Needs more WEG as 3672S to 3676G is fleet replacement. Also AMK MRT, loading is high for all buses. You have 25, 7...

dupdup77 SG

Yes, so what's the ordeal for re-routiing 109?

Hi mr SMB128B, because initially mr BusAnalyser suggests to re-route sbs 116 to hougang st 51, 91, 93. I find it not very suitable because sbs 116 will miss out on hougang ave 4 to hougang ave 9 which is more direct. So to avoid such a major route change to sbs 116, why not sbs 116 is amended slightly to cover st 91 then another service sbs 109 is amended slightly to st 51. This will cause less disruption. Cheers.

dupdup77 SG

I believe the re-routing to St 51 is extremely redundant.

If you think about it you benefit very little, if not none at all by doing this. YET, you still have to go through all the trouble such as changing bus stop information, schedules etc!

I don't see the logic of doing this seriously. Besides, it's short walking distance between HG Green Mall to the nearest Buangkok Green bus stop. I mean walking a bit kills?

Hi mr SMB128B, this is also why sbs 83 does not go inside compassvale crescent and only plies compassvale st. Plus why no buses go to edgedale plains and sbs 3, 83 go 1 big round (Punggol field, east, then central). Those residents at edgedale plains in middle of Punggol field and central have to walk to either set of bus stops there as it is still within walking distance. Cheers.

sbst191 SG

I think 113 can be extended to sengkang int to provide another link for upp serangoon view residents and students there. Might be a big hit

Punggol park bus stop, follow 62 route then 136's towards north vista then go straight up towards sengkang central.

dupdup77 SG

I think 113 can be extended to sengkang int to provide another link for upp serangoon view residents and students there. Might be a big hit

Punggol park bus stop, follow 62 route then 136's towards north vista then go straight up towards sengkang central.

---> upper serangoon road ---> sengkang east drive ---> sengkang east ave ---> compassvale road ---> sengkang square---> sengkang int. Not too bad an idea. Quite unique. Worth exploring. Cheers.

sbst191 SG

---> upper serangoon road ---> sengkang east drive ---> sengkang east ave ---> compassvale road ---> sengkang square---> sengkang int. Not too bad an idea. Quite unique. Worth exploring. Cheers.

I think this extension will be a huge hit because it will lessen the loads of the Sengkang East LRT, lessen the loads of Sv 62 during school hours and off peak hours (towards Punggol Int) and of course give upper serangoon view residents a easy option to commute).

I predict in the near future when the BTO flats and condos are ready, If 113 is extended to Sengkang Int, there will be long queues forming and DDs will be deployed. I have emailed this suggestion to LTA.

BusAnalayzer SG

Those few?

Explain please

I don't owe you any explanation coz u know nothing about bus loading.

BusAnalayzer SG

If walking is so much not a problem, then the bus stops on Jurong Townhall rd and West Coast rd are only 300 mts away from the existing Pandan Gardens bus stops. Yet you insist on not giving 143 a direct connection from West Cosst to Teban Gardens but want it to do one big loop around Pandan. Where is they consistency in thought process?

BusAnalayzer SG

---> upper serangoon road ---> sengkang east drive ---> sengkang east ave ---> compassvale road ---> sengkang square---> sengkang int. Not too bad an idea. Quite unique. Worth exploring. Cheers.

Are you serious? 113???

BusAnalayzer SG

I think 113 can be extended to sengkang int to provide another link for upp serangoon view residents and students there. Might be a big hit

Punggol park bus stop, follow 62 route then 136's towards north vista then go straight up towards sengkang central.

All you are interested here is in 113... After all your complaints, requests on 113 fleet add, DDs, nothing worked. So now you are asking for an extension for an already redundant service.

BusAnalayzer SG

Lol on your suggestion.... There you go again... DDs for 113... It is a joke... Every time I have taken this service, it has less than 20 pax between Kovan and HG int... Yet u insist on dd on this service (except for May be ur school timing, when 1 of the 40 buses might be getting 40+ pax)

dupdup77 SG

Hi mr BusAnalyser, you forget that there is the inner portion of teban gardens road. Not only the teban gardens next to jurong town hall road. So there is no inconsistency. Cheers.

dupdup77 SG

Are you serious? 113???

Hi mr BusAnalyser, I only say it is quite unique and worth exploring. It is not a certainty. Sometimes people give ideas and we must always be open to it. Ultimately, suggestions are aplenty and in most cases, they do not really materialize. Cheers.

SMB128B SG

I don't owe you any explanation coz u know nothing about bus loading.

My boy, there's no need to reply with such tone, I was merely asking you to clarity what you meant. Yes I know you are very good in bus loadings, but please always be humble and look openly as there may be others out there who may be more senior than you such as being daily commuters of the concerned sector, or even a BC for such. You think a ride or two of jotting down passengers will help? My dear, that's just child's thinking. I know you are more sensible than this, and if that is so, please act like it. This is not a challenge or threaten but rather just a mere way to express my intention and a truthful appeal to receive opinions from a different perspective as from the little I can comprehend from your post I find the statement very false, through my rides with service 9 which occur once sometimes daily, sometimes in every two days.

BusAnalayzer SG

You know we have history here, so the special tone comes out sometimes.. Sorry about that :)

SMB128B SG

You know we have history here, so the special tone comes out sometimes.. Sorry about that :)

I'll forgive you.

You may wanna consider working on that? I will too.

Now will you explain?

sgbuses SG

I'll forgive you.

You may wanna consider working on that? I will too.

Now will you explain?

Gauging a new catchment area not served by any public transport is more difficult than areas served by existing public transport (which you can use existing Ez-link/loading data to work with).

TIB429E SG

I think 113 can be extended to sengkang int to provide another link for upp serangoon view residents and students there. Might be a big hit

Punggol park bus stop, follow 62 route then 136's towards north vista then go straight up towards sengkang central.

Currently the frequency is damn jialat, plus what you have said of "HIGH LOADINGs" and SBS Transit "ignoring"....still want extend the route...

sbst191 SG

Currently the frequency is damn jialat, plus what you have said of "HIGH LOADINGs" and SBS Transit "ignoring"....still want extend the route...

Like that 62,90,161,125 etc all no need dds cause of it's jialat frequency?

Im suggesting to extend the route as BusAnalayzer said HG sector is useless right?

SMB128B SG

Gauging a new catchment area not served by any public transport is more difficult than areas served by existing public transport (which you can use existing Ez-link/loading data to work with).

I was trying to ask him what he meant by the "few people from Simei".

But anyways I think I got it, and yes I agree it's few. Most who really travel beyong Tampines are just going to Loyang. Yeah they can change to 19 since its the same stop anyways.

BusAnalayzer SG

Like that 62,90,161,125 etc all no need dds cause of it's jialat frequency?

Im suggesting to extend the route as BusAnalayzer said HG sector is useless right?

Did you just say 161 don't need DDs... Omg!!!

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