LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP) (Part 2)

last SG · 2013-12-16T21:55:55+00:00

74 needs BSEP. Loading at AMK MRT is high. Needs more WEG as 3672S to 3676G is fleet replacement. Also AMK MRT, loading is high for all buses. You have 25, 7...

SBS3688Y SG

Hi mr BusAnalyser, have they not made the change previously, Punggol interchange will be free of some spaces for other new semi-express services to go to places like orchard and marina square. Now currently sbs 82 and sbs 84 take up those slots. Moreover, the route of sbs 82 is not very unique. Even if it loops at Punggol road end, it still serves the same catchment of passengers. Cheers.

hi Mr dupdup77; do u think punggol/sengkang area needs an express bus service to connect the western part-eg Yew Tee/Jurong East/Boon Lay? when i drive from Punggolvia TPE to kranji/yew tee area then onto KJE, i find it so direct and convenient.

Acx1688 SG

Hi mr Acx1688, i understand the sbs 82/84 issues and the reasons behind it long time ago. However, i still wish for the good olden days that sbs 82 can just loop at punggol road end. Cheers.

Loop? Punggol rd end used to ve ter for 82,83

dupdup77 SG

Loop? Punggol rd end used to ve ter for 82,83

Hi mr Acx1688, I mean in the recent past around yr 2009. Not as in many many years ago. Cheers

SBS3688Y SG

Frankly I would prefer 82 runs from Shenton way to Punggol interchange, merged with 107. Since loading to Punggol end is sparse, Sv 84 is okay. If one bus is added, will be good.

i agree too. both 82 & 107 should merge. but for the 107M version, do u think the new merge route should terminate at Shenton Way and not loop at Marina?

SBS2601D SG

Which illustrates my point.

Loading itself cannot be the only factor to justify the existence of routes. Connectivity needs to be considered as well. Otherwise the above-mentioned routes can be argued to be a waste of resources as they run largely empty during off-peak hours and operators face a greater challenge in operating these routes as compared to other better-patronised routes.

I am not allowed make specific comments on individual routes, but I know the loadings of the entire ops period well enough to make this general comment.

Having the buses returning to depot is also such a waste of fuel and time. Just like the services mentioned by some parties.

Might as well just park at interchanges and put fuel pumps next to the commuter?

dupdup77 SG

Hi mr SBS3688Y, I think no need at the present. Lack of sufficient loading and the distance travelled will be too long. Currently people will transfer to circle line at serangoon to connect to buona vista to transfer to west side of Singapore (jurong east, Boon Lay) which is considered the fastest as of this moment. As for areas like choa Chu Kang, bukit batok, we take sbs 161 to woodlands and transfer to woodlands mrt. Travel time is slightly more than a direct bus service but it is still manageable. Cheers.

Acx1688 SG

i agree too. both 82 & 107 should merge. but for the 107M version, do u think the new merge route should terminate at Shenton Way and not loop at Marina?

OT abt M services esp M services to city eg 70M,107M,162M to better utilise this and create greater connectivity, shld extend to MBS looping at MBFC before return trip to their respective terminals, any1 any comments?! can build up on tis

sgbuses SG

Having the buses returning to depot is also such a waste of fuel and time. Just like the services mentioned by some parties.

Might as well just park at interchanges and put fuel pumps next to the commuter?

Reminds me of Jurong Bus Park and the old Jurong Interchange along Jurong Port Road!

SMB128B SG

Nah.

Maybe a direct svc from northeast to west will be good.

Preferable JE.

I mean, haven't you noticed the growth of JE now? MRT is simply insufficient. Two transfers! So many stops! And the Circle Line is notorious for crawling speeds (understandable due to numerous turns).

If the CBD can be served with express svcs and direct MRT connections, why can't JE? It's already becoming the second CBD of the entire nation. With the current transport connection it has it puts shame and unfairness to many parts of Singapore!

Hope the CRL will resolve this issue, and hope its express services will be confirmed and operational during weekends as well along with peak hours. Otherwise an express svc like this should be introduced as a stop-gap.

23ispolo SG

Nah.

Maybe a direct svc from northeast to west will be good.

Preferable JE.

How about a semi-express service from Sengkang Int to Jurong East Int via KPE, Bartley Road East, Braddell Road, Lornie Road, PIE, Toh Guan Road and Boon Lay Way? Another option is to have this service go by Macpherson Road to the PIE, but this side of the PIE has high traffic... Thus, I would rather suggest to have it go by Braddell Road, which has low traffic except for the junction with the CTE...

SMB128B SG

Yes, would be great since no bus to date has ever utilised the KPE tunnel.

23ispolo SG

Yes, would be great since no bus to date has ever utilised the KPE tunnel.

Got 104 in route suggestions thread. Better if go by Braddell Road or Macpherson to PIE?

SMB128B SG

Got 104 in route suggestions thread. Better if go by Braddell Road or Macpherson to PIE?

Braddell Rd. Should keep stops to a minimum.

SBS3688Y SG

Nah.

Maybe a direct svc from northeast to west will be good.

Preferable JE.

thats right. west got 502 and east got 518. so why not the northeast too?

SBS3688Y SG

Yes, would be great since no bus to date has ever utilised the KPE tunnel.

KPE is a good way to travel; except during morning peak where the stretch from buangkok to airport rd is terribly jammed.

SBS3004X SG

Hi mr BusAnalyser, I spotted 2 buses for sbs 84 lately. Not sure the 1 bus you mentioned is correct. Cheers

Is one of them BSEP?

SBS3004X SG

84/82 done thing wun change unless 82 merge 107...wil save slots as mre can park at shenton way ve ample places...

WAB or not? 82 WAB 107 not WAB then will the merged service be WAB?

BusAnalayzer SG

WAB or not? 82 WAB 107 not WAB then will the merged service be WAB?

That's the least of problems.. 107 can be made WAB.

dupdup77 SG

Is one of them BSEP?

Hi mr SBS3004X, I am really not too sure. Cheers.

Acx1688 SG

Is one of them BSEP?

sv84 at its present freq n ridership needs only 1 bus PERIOD

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