LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP) (Part 2)

last SG · 2013-12-16T21:55:55+00:00

74 needs BSEP. Loading at AMK MRT is high. Needs more WEG as 3672S to 3676G is fleet replacement. Also AMK MRT, loading is high for all buses. You have 25, 7...

BusAnalayzer SG

From my experiences taking 20 (during PM peak hours) the full load seems to be in between Changi Business Park and Simei and upon leaving Simei and entering Tampines one can find seats easily.

Loading between Tampines and Simei is 35-40 pax, between CBP and Simei has potential to exceed 70+

iveco SG

Dead mileage reduce,service effiency.Probably since Bbdep take over from Arbp for svc 14..

Then 198 still BBDEP?

array88 SG

Saw a svc 20 DD along Upper Changi Rd East turning to Simei Rd @6.05pm. As I was sitting on a bus in the opposite direction, I could only see that upper decker was at least 1/2 full (most likely fully seated).

carbikebus SG

Then 198 still BBDEP?

Its now majority Arbp minority Slbp..More or less few Slbp will start downroute from JW towards BM for its early trips..

Ashulia30 SG

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ButIAmAToilet SG

Sv 20 got DDs and it plies exactly the same streets as Sv 38... Sv 3 does not need DDs... For a trunk service, loading on TPE sector does not exceed 50-55 pax to warrant DDs. I am repeating myself - within Pasir Ris town, loading can go 80+ pax but there is 3A and 3B to manage that

Maybe it is just me, but 3A's frequency in afternoon timing feels like normal 3's frequency, giving the feeling that more buses are concentrated within Pasir Ris-Tampines areas than buses that continues to Punggol during this timing. And I never seen 3A operate during PM peak (not sure on AM peak). Loading-wise, all I can say that it is weird (Like many taking from Tamp MRT towards Pasir Ris, but not the other way round). Still one of my favourite services due to its insane operating hours. Do correct me if I am wrong though.

TBH, I am a bit surprised by the new DDs add-ons recently. Both 20 and 3 seems to need DDs but can't ply due to the belief that Simei St 1/4 and Pasir Ris St 21/71 can't ply it. (Looks like I am proven wrong) (Simei do have bendies before though)

TIB429E SG

False alarm.. I was in HG area today... Didn't see any WEG on 113

Haha knew it...HGDEP won't be so nice to put DD on 113 when the queue at interchange can be empty..

SBS9C SG

Launch of PPSS 291P and 293P on 24 June. Loading for both services were good, especially for PC2086J (ex SMB137A) where it got a full bus with standees for a few trips.

SBS5010P SG

Haha knew it...HGDEP won't be so nice to put DD on 113 when the queue at interchange can be empty..

Hohoho. You dont judge a bus service by it's queue at the interchange..

The demand @ Kovan area itself is already DD loading so yeah.

There are many bus svcs which dosent have much demand at the interchange and they have DDs.. Eg. Sv 119,56,49,107/M,153 etc The key is the demand aft the interchange.. If you do not notice, commuters taking 113 dont even bother to queue and they just sit down and wait. This is very weird.

For distance, Even 225G/W, DDs are deployed even though commuters take this svc for only 1KM - 1.5KM.. So if 119 can get DDs, what would not happen?

Lets wait till 30/06/2014 and see what happens.

TIB429E SG

Hohoho. You dont judge a bus service by it's queue at the interchange..

The demand @ Kovan area itself is already DD loading so yeah.

There are many bus svcs which dosent have much demand at the interchange and they have DDs.. Eg. Sv 50,119,56,49 etc The key is the demand aft the interchange.. If you do not notice, commuters taking 113 dont even bother to queue and they just sit down and wait. This is very weird.

For distance, Even 225G/W, 3.1KM yet DDs are deployed even though not 100% of commuters will move to upper deck. Commuters take this svc for only 1KM - 1.5KM.. So if 119 can get DDs, what would not happen?

Lets wait till 30/06/2014 and see what happens.

Add DD to the fleet? Might as well deploy 113A...

Well, I've noticed quite a few times..there's once 113 departed HG Int with only less than 10pax, all from the queue. And the waiting time could be rather long. I believe if u BSEP/Fleet add the route(or 113A), problem can be solved.

carbikebus SG

Well to be fair,Hgdep can always trial 2 split DDs on 113 for a month..after evaluation they can always come up with a decision..119 loadings seems to picking up nowadays.
But again 113A also come in handy.

SBS5010P SG

119's demand still the same leh.. I have never seen a SD on 119 full before. Few standees, yes but not many pax leh.

Let's see if 113 will get DDs or additional split shift bus on 30 june..

BusAnalayzer SG

This has been suggested multiple times... Crossover from 107/153 DDs returning to interchange can be used on 113A for sure, but LTA is against putting DDs on only the SWT of service if it does not have DDs otherwise.

BusAnalayzer SG

Where did u see 119 loading pick up? PM loading still bad. Am loading good in rivervale area.

carbikebus SG

Where did u see 119 loading pick up? PM loading still bad. Am loading good in rivervale area.

I did saw 3/4 seated DD towards Sengkang few weeks ago..Most probably they wait till Sengkang fully developed..

dupdup77 SG

I did saw 3/4 seated DD towards Sengkang few weeks ago..Most probably they wait till Sengkang fully developed..

Hi mr carbikebus, the route sbs 119 passes by is fixed. The sengkang portion is already developed so it will not have much effect on sbs 119. The Punggol portion for sbs 119 route is not yet fully developed. So that will help sbs 119 reach maturity crowds. Cheers.

carbikebus SG

So Mr dupdup have you heard any news that Sengkang or Punggol going to have a bus park to supplement Hgdep?

dupdup77 SG

So Mr dupdup have you heard any news that Sengkang or Punggol going to have a bus park to supplement Hgdep?

Hi mr carbikebus, no I have not heard of any new bus parks yet. At this moment, I am waiting for news of opening of TPE bus stop but to no avail. You have any news? Cheers.

TIB429E SG

Launch of PPSS 291P and 293P on 24 June. Loading for both services were good, especially for PC2086J (ex SMB137A) where it got a full bus with standees for a few trips.

Boarded SMB137A, the bus was packed to the door when it departed Tampines for it's final trip of the day.

Can say the frequency of 291 is inconsistant. 1 Coach bunch up with a DD, and the coach loading have more than 10 pax. Spotted 1 of the Coach with 7-8 standing...

Overall, I believed that if LTA were to introduce this scheme with Low entry buses(prob city buses), more passengers can board, elderly wouldn't have much issue OR passengers could bring up their baby tram.

From observations, passengers are now fully relying on desto and EDS or were told of the svc by somebody. They wouldn't be fully aware of the svc without these..

BusAnalayzer SG

Boarded SMB137A, the bus was packed to the door when it departed Tampines for it's final trip of the day.

Can say the frequency of 291 is inconsistant. 1 Coach bunch up with a DD, and the coach loading have more than 10 pax. Spotted 1 of the Coach with 7-8 standing...

From observations, passengers are now fully relying on desto and EDS or were told of the svc by somebody. They wouldn't be fully aware of the svc without these..

Since it is calling at 291 berth, and there are always ground staff there during peak hours, they will make sure that people board the bus.

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