SMRT Night Rider routes to end earlier from 30 April

FireIce SG

SMRT Night Rider routes to end earlier from 30 April, no longer loop service - See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/transport/story/smrt-night-rider-routes-end-earlier-30-april-no-longer-loop-service-2#sthash.sc8hMvOm.dpuf

carbikebus SG

As expected..ever since fare raise many pax run to SBST Niteowl cause of the flexible fares..and slightly more direct

SMB145B SG

SMRT cutting cost again

dupdup77 SG

Good. Lost its relevance throughout the years. Cheers.

Acx1688 SG

Good. Lost its relevance throughout the years. Cheers.

dd77, there are folks who use the bus to get home from work when it ends late, no matter how many fewer pple use it, it is still cheaper than taking a taxi home.

In modern cities, night buses are common and provide an alternative cheaper form to get home rather than wait till 530am for 1st train/bus unlike SG whose PT leaders and gahmen always claim we r 1st world country with excellent transport links in words and seldom in actions/policy roll outs

Show some compassion please, come down from ivory tower, TQ

carbikebus SG

For a single person it's cheap but when you board along 2 others friends might as well hail a cab...furthermore it's winding.Those boarding only a few people la,not worth it.

carbikebus SG

But I still prefer if SMRT starts at 23.45-02.45 SBST should follow 00.00-2.30 at least lah

FireIce SG

super long journey home

just gather a few friends and share cab

this is also encouraging people to go drink early and go home earlier

carbikebus SG

Like this sbst win Liao Lor,their route after Muhd Sultan/orchard is mostly direct

Acx1688 SG

SMRT's NR used to run differently from present...

I used to have NR7 direct home to M Parade quite a while back, nw 4N

Route nw runs parrallel to train lines now...

carbikebus SG

SMRT Need to revise their Night routes albeit the unidirection.
NR7 should skip Simei part and introduce NR4 that starts from Marina Bay sands-Tampines St 21 via Simei.

sgbuses SG

Current night bus operations is a very far cry from the past.

Population is increasing, but falling patronage? When was the last time SMRT did its research on night bus routes, demographics and other factors (e.g. fares)?

carbikebus SG

Thats why the needed to introduce more night routes nvrmind the unidirectional..NiteOwl need 7N from RWS-Changi Village.NR4 Shenton Way-Tampines St 21

Acx1688 SG

Current night bus operations is a very far cry from the past.

Population is increasing, but falling patronage? When was the last time SMRT did its research on night bus routes, demographics and other factors (e.g. fares)?

Bro excuse... n pressure from NTA > no biz

dupdup77 SG

Hi mr Acx1688, smrt withdrew the services for the various HDB towns to city. They still have the city back to HDB towns direction but shortened the timing. People can still take the services back home from city. Of course, most are definitely out for entertainment so no issues to take the buses home. For those who worked at odd hours, most employers will definitely reimburse those workers who take cab. There are seldom people taking from HDB towns to city direction so it is good decision to withdraw. No point to conpare with other cities as demand in Singapore is weak. Totally nothing to do with showing compassion and coming down from ivory tower!

dupdup77 SG

To further add on, midnight buses are not part of any basic essential services which public bus operators must provide. They are considered premium so it is definitely ok to withdraw according to demand as it is basically a case of demand and supply. This will definitely not apply for those basic bus services which are not allowed to just anyhow change. Thanks.

Acx1688 SG

dd77, from your reply, it shows how myopic your points ah, but getting employers to reimburse workers on shift work is already adding to the costs and sometimes workers are not compensated at all as the job is chosen by them , the employer will just ask them to take it or leave it.

Fyi, before concessions for the elderly kick in, ie travel at concessionary rates start at 0630hrs, SCs pay full fare for services when they start work at 0630 hours or earlier, eg cleaners, food stall holders and other jobs...
Did the employer re-imburse them?! NO

So your logic does not hold any truth, please lah dun b the gahmen's mouthpiece, you are defending government's policy even though it is flawed.

You mean to say that if its not feaible and not part of basic bus services, it should not be provided at all?! What flawed logic is tt?!

Is that how the PAP government think?!

Thank God other countries transport people do not think like tt or else night shift workers will be sleeping till the 1st bus/train comes

Have you worked in establishments that have odd hours?
Obviously, if you work in gahmen organisation, ah gong will allow you to claim taxi as it is not often. the folks who use night services are working at odd hours daily, if not only during weekends/PHs... if you did not, have not and not about to, please "forever hold your peace", you reply and type without thinking about the plight of others...

Singapore want to be a cosmopolitan society dun even have proper basic buses catering for service jobs that run funny hours...

Please lah, free, no need to go far, fly to HK go have a look see

SBS2601D SG

NR used to be be uni-directional anyway.

Acx1688 SG

NR used to be be uni-directional anyway.

yup

SMB145B SG

taxis are expensive. a trip between Yishun and Sembawang cost $5. add in all the surcharges, NR are cheaper in a sense. the SBST Nite Owls takes it even cheaper, within town at a fraction.

night buses should be a supplement to most of the day buses, and it is considered as Basic service not Basic+ nor premium.