LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP)

last SG · 2012-09-13T18:35:32+00:00

Another fleet add for Sv 60? Wasn't 7500D a fleet add into Sv 60 just a few months back? still can fleet add mah... this one small case compare to Sv43 lah....

BusAnalayzer SG

The loading on MRT in the morning / evening peak hour is crazy even with 2-3 min frequency. CCL is the only line that is still able to cope with the load. Look at the red, green or purple line in peak hours. You have to squeeze yourself in.

People take MRT for 1-2 stops. This behaviour should change. They do not realize that instead of taking MRT, buses can be quicker. MRT is useful for longer distances. We need bus routes in parallel to MRT with less than 10 min frequency. This way for shorter distance, people will move to buses, rather than walk 500 mts within MRT, which people hardly calculate in their travel time.

BusAnalayzer SG

I believe SBST has done a fabulous job with its bus services in the past 1 year. Major service upgrades to so many routes. SMRT on the other hand is trying but cannot because it hasn't got more high capacity buses to deploy.

So it is just passing bendies around. High time it changes its approach. In a city like Singapore, service can profit with more high capacity buses at a frequency of 6-7 minutes rather than just SDs with frequency of 5 mins. You save on fuel, driver cost, operations everything.

SMRT needs some good talent to manage its operations. Seriously!!

BusAnalayzer SG

All full day services introduced are for SBST - 4, 50, 116, 120 and only 860 for SMRT. Why? I think coz SMRT cannot handle more services even if it is under BSEP.

I don't understand why 8 buses for 120, 7 buses for 116 but just 6 buses for 860, when the loading on 860 is much much higher than 116 and 120. Also, 116, 120 have many services in parallel. 860 on its way to Khatib is the only service, though on the return it has company of 800.

The peak hour loading can be crazy on 860, yet no improvement. It falls under SMRT area that's why.

SMRT needs to introduce more services in Woodlands. Can it manage? The loading on services in Woodlands is crazy high, same for Yishun and CCK. If you see the queues on any of these interchanges and the loading in the buses, all the feeders here are packed like sardines, compared to SBST area, where with continuous bus addition, the loading has been adjusted.

BusAnalayzer SG

I'm sorry?

Then 116, 50, 120, and 4 are what?

Limo service?

The former 2 services have indeed improved my access to places that I need to go from time to time.

I feel LTA/SBST should have done a better job with designing the bus routes though.

According to me 4 is the best, followed with 50. The routing of 116 and 120 is to some extent poor. These services do not have good loading even in peak hours.

SMB66X SG

Please tell me that you are joking, and not incredibly stupid....or horrifically ill-informed.

All these while train has been the one that has been heavily subsidised while bus got 0. THIS is a major reason why our bus operations nearly ALWAYS bleeds money when operators buy new buses. Where did you get the idea that trains do not get funds?? I actually LOLed when I read this. => Which is why you don't really see them channelling to trains that much.

When finally bus gets the help that it badly needs, you say that the money was wasted?? What kind of !!! is this, I ask?

And with the central planning in place, and especially with the distance-based fare, it is so much easier to finally make better use of our bus services.

I find that bus service in general, at least for SBST side, has improved by quite a significant margin. If you don't see any improvement, either you are blind.......or you live in SMRT area (yeah, you saying that WRI jams are fine comes to mind).

Anyway, long term effect confirm they benefit~ => Huh??? Where did this even come from? Not everything has to do with politics you know.

"Channelling to trains that MUCH" doesn't mean that trains DO NOT get funds? MUCH =/= NOTHING

Hello, certain BSEP improvements wasn't even necessary, and it's minor few. Further more, I didn't even state which operators, and you don't even ask, anyhow assumed again? WOW~ You should see services 178/925. With or without the BSEP, they still have the almost the same frequency, not even necessary.

Your last sentences seriously made me know that you don't even think Do you think the govt. plan this idea out and ended up not benefitting in the end? -.-" Not criticising them but seriously, who will give free stuff w/o benefitting?

And come on..you should seriously compare Woodlands Interchange jam with other country first before talk cock here, or even those highway jams. Do you even see it often now? If you have observed, the flow is much smoother already, compared to the past.

SMB66X SG

All full day services introduced are for SBST - 4, 50, 116, 120 and only 860 for SMRT. Why? I think coz SMRT cannot handle more services even if it is under BSEP.

The peak hour loading can be crazy on 860, yet no improvement. It falls under SMRT area that's why.

No choice, SMRT operations are like that~ They don't really plan out a good strategy to tackle the issue, even with SDs.

They also placed at wrong timing. One good example is 903, BSEP bus always arrive at 7am for the last stop, the front/back bus is not even close to it, like as if the BSEP bus is replacing an AP slot. So what's the point of BSEP buses to them then? They should learn how svc168 tackle the issue-by having 2 DDs closely attached to the front of 6316B and 1 at the back. The load wise is much lesser and it shows out the way of how BSEP buses are for.

TIB1234T SG

SMB3049B
[WL 925].

SMB3052R
[WL 169].

TIB1234T SG

All full day services introduced are for SBST - 4, 50, 116, 120 and only 860 for SMRT. Why? I think coz SMRT cannot handle more services even if it is under BSEP.

The peak hour loading can be crazy on 860, yet no improvement. It falls under SMRT area that's why.

For Woodlands, it would be best if the current interchange is improvised to link with a new section of Woodlands Reg. Int. if ever planned to build under new coming Woodlands Town Hub... Then at the current new W'lands Xchange where the Pepper Lunch is, the walkway where the tall metal artwork is, can be extended to the new extended section interchange.... Thats my opinion plan...

SBS 6238T SG

I feel LTA/SBST should have done a better job with designing the bus routes though.

According to me 4 is the best, followed with 50. The routing of 116 and 120 is to some extent poor. These services do not have good loading even in peak hours.

Speaking about service 116,took SBS 6326Y towards Hougang Central during the morning peak hours just now and i counted about approximately 40 people inside the bus.

SMB 133K <3 SG

Speaking about service 116,took SBS 6326Y towards Hougang Central during the morning peak hours just now and i counted about approximately 40 people inside the bus.

Got one stop a lot of people boarded. Somewhere where got 73. Should have just alighted from 73 earlier.

sbst275 SG

178, 925… mmm…

Woodlands Int based bus svs.. does it ring a bell…

SMB145B SG

All full day services introduced are for SBST - 4, 50, 116, 120 and only 860 for SMRT. Why? I think coz SMRT cannot handle more services even if it is under BSEP.

The peak hour loading can be crazy on 860, yet no improvement. It falls under SMRT area that's why.

860 had a 7th bus

3029J

at around 9-10am

860 is full (towards KTB)

when it return to YIS, it's empty

lemon1974 SG

"Channelling to trains that MUCH" doesn't mean that trains DO NOT get funds? MUCH =/= NOTHING

frankly speaking Sv925 need these buses esp during peak hours.. cos the 177 crossover does not appear in the am/pm peak hours.. there are many workers inside Kranji/Sungei Kadet area that are without company transports.

lemon1974 SG

I feel LTA/SBST should have done a better job with designing the bus routes though.

According to me 4 is the best, followed with 50. The routing of 116 and 120 is to some extent poor. These services do not have good loading even in peak hours.

why you must keep on insisting that the new services have good loading? if the new servies are expected to have good loading, they should been long introduce by SBST long time back... The issue is that the loading wont be good, and that why need BSEP to help to introduce these new bus services instead.. BSEP is to help make travel more easy and to help to relieve the load of other bus services...

Total no of buses need for Sv4/50/116/120 is around 35... the cost of these buses alone cost almost S$8 million?

lemon1974 SG

LTA should put a few BSEP buses on Sv72B... SBST is currently putting 13 SDs on this Sv72B to cater for the students crowds, but the revenue they are getting i think is very little, considering that most of the students are transferring from MRT.....

If LTA can put a few BSEP buses and SBST can better make use of these buses for other services instead..

and SBST have to put 2 or 3 inspectors at the boarding points daily as well plus one more at the alighting point... all these are additional costs to them also... even SMRT also deploy 2-3 CSO holding Sv72B rear detso near the boarding points to ensure that queue are properly form up...

SBS 6078 M SG

So they should withdraw some buses out of this svc and create a SWT 265A from AMK Int to ITE and throw SP buses there? But come to think of it, the parking space is already very limited in AMK Int and some buses have to park at the side of the kerb where they park the bus or whatever you call it.

SMB66X SG

Hmm, I didn't see that. But during off peak hours, the bus is just transporting 1-2 people the least(or even non)~ :/ Find it wasted.

TIB 585L SG

Hmm, I didn't see that. But during off peak hours, the bus is just transporting 1-2 people the least(or even non)~ :/ Find it wasted.

Though never seen 925 pax full till the entrance, But i see that during peak hours, There is alot of pax riding 925

sbst275 SG

925 alrdy saved by merging 204 & 208 together… still want to hiam..

as though Jurong Ind Est svs off peak load very good like that

SMB66X SG

Though never seen 925 pax full till the entrance, But i see that during peak hours, There is alot of pax riding 925

Then they can just boost the fleet with split shift buses, and instead of BSEP, can use normal buses already mah? If I am not wrong, the BSEP bus operates on full day(until 7/8). Isn't it much fuel saving then to have more extra buses running on peak hours instead of full day?

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