LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP)

last SG · 2012-09-13T18:35:32+00:00

Another fleet add for Sv 60? Wasn't 7500D a fleet add into Sv 60 just a few months back? still can fleet add mah... this one small case compare to Sv43 lah....

BusAnalayzer SG

Since we speak so much about sv 113 here, I decided to go and observe myself at Kovan and took the full loop of 113 from HCI to HG St 11 and alighted at Kovan. Then observed bus arrivals for another 20-30 minutes there.

Date: 06-Sep, Day: Friday evening

Time of boarding: 18.13 at HCI

Hougang Interchange (13)

Upper Serangoon Road

Hougang Plaza (-3,9) (19)

Blk 465 (-5,5) (19)

Hougang Ave 8

Punggol Park (-5,4) (18)

Blk 434 (-5,3) (16)

Hougang Ave 6

Punggol CC (-4,3) (15)

Hougang Ave 10

Blk 521, HG MRT (-6,4) (13)

Blk 239 (-1,2) (14)

Hougang Swimming Complex (-2,4) (16)

Hougang Ave 2

Blk 709 (-3, 10) (23)

Upper Serangoon Road

Serangoon JC (-5, 10) (28)

Glad Tidings Church (-1, 3) (30)

Kovan MRT (-18, 52) (65) 65 pax PEAK LOADING

Hougang St 21

St 21 FC (-10, 8) (63)

Blk 210 (-4, 3) (62)

Hougang Ave 1

Blk 232 (-14, 2) (50)

Blk 239 (-21, 2) (31)

Blk 105 Market (-13, 3) (21)

Lor Ah Soo

Blk 115 (-8, 0) (13)

Paya Lebar Girls School (-4, 1) (10)

Blk 146 (-3, 0) (7)

Hougang St 11

Blk 158 (-4, 3) (6)

Upper Paya Lebar Road

Blk 161 (-3, 9) (12)

Lor Ah Soo

Blk 146 (0, 3) (15)

Paya Lebar Girls School (0, 8) (23)

Blk 115 (-2, 7) (28)

Hougang Ave 1

Aljunied CC (-4, 10) (34)

Yuying Sec School (-7, 7) (34)

Blk 232 (-2, 7) (39)

Hougang St 21

Blk 210 (-5, 7) (41)

Blk 207 (-7, 6) (40)

Upper Serangoon Road

Kovan MRT (-32, 18) (26)

SMB66X SG

Date: 06-Sep, Day: Friday evening

Time of boarding: 18.13 at HCI

Hougang Interchange (13)

Upper Serangoon Road

Hougang Plaza (-3,9) (19)

Blk 465 (-5,5) (19)

Hougang Ave 8

Punggol Park (-5,4) (18)

Blk 434 (-5,3) (16)

Hougang Ave 6

Punggol CC (-4,3) (15)

Hougang Ave 10

Blk 521, HG MRT (-6,4) (13)

Blk 239 (-1,2) (14)

Hougang Swimming Complex (-2,4) (16)

Hougang Ave 2

Blk 709 (-3, 10) (23)

Upper Serangoon Road

Serangoon JC (-5, 10) (28)

Glad Tidings Church (-1, 3) (30)

Kovan MRT (-18, 52) (65) 65 pax PEAK LOADING

Hougang St 21

St 21 FC (-10, 8) (63)

Blk 210 (-4, 3) (62)

Hougang Ave 1

Blk 232 (-14, 2) (50)

Blk 239 (-21, 2) (31)

Blk 105 Market (-13, 3) (21)

Lor Ah Soo

Blk 115 (-8, 0) (13)

Paya Lebar Girls School (-4, 1) (10)

Blk 146 (-3, 0) (7)

Hougang St 11

Blk 158 (-4, 3) (6)

Upper Paya Lebar Road

Blk 161 (-3, 9) (12)

Lor Ah Soo

Blk 146 (0, 3) (15)

Paya Lebar Girls School (0, 8) (23)

Blk 115 (-2, 7) (28)

Hougang Ave 1

Aljunied CC (-4, 10) (34)

Yuying Sec School (-7, 7) (34)

Blk 232 (-2, 7) (39)

Hougang St 21

Blk 210 (-5, 7) (41)

Blk 207 (-7, 6) (40)

Upper Serangoon Road

Kovan MRT (-32, 18) (26)

Hmm..just deploy 113A during peak hours, like what SMRT did??

BusAnalayzer SG

To further elaborate, the bus reached Kovan at around 18.30 hours and there was a huge load of people boarding the bus. To be exact, there were 52 pax and the bus had 65 pax when it left Kovan MRT. There were still 12 pax on board that came from before Kovan. The KUB already seemed full with 65 pax and that is again to do with people not wanting to go to the rare. As you see, the bus almost empties on HG Ave 1, so people didn't want to move to the back. This caused problem while boarding even though at the end there were just 65 pax, the bus seemed as if it was loaded with 70+ pax as the rare was empty.

BusAnalayzer SG

Some will say this is not representative sample, but if you observe 113 loading between Hougang and Kovan you will see that the bus does not even get more than 20 pax until it comes to HG Ave 2, Serangoon JC where of course for any bus coming to the stop first, there will be heavy loading.

Also, the 113 that came was at a 20 minute interval from the one before, and this maybe due to the reduced capacity coz of 113A. All said and done, when the bus during peak hours does not gain even more than 20-30 pax between Hougang and Kovan, how do you justify DDs on this sector??

113A crossover DDs is fine because yes there is huge spot loading there, but again only for 3-4 stops till HG Ave 1. When people refuse to move to the rear of the KUB, you think they will go to the top of the deck? Maybe some will...

BusAnalayzer SG

I would also say that if crossover DDs is not possible... add one more bus to 113A during AM/PM peak - will do the job.

SBS5011L SG

Actually the highest loading of 113 is after 7pm. That one really. Full ttm. DD ppl boarding from kovan will move up cause of the slow boarding process. Also the bus also have to go down the slope to hougang st 21 and dun forget the slow traffic lights. DD will also attract more ppl to take one round to st 11 and back to their home. Also, 10-16 blocks of minton rise isnt completed yet. Too early to determine anything.

SBS5011L SG

Hmm..just deploy 113A during peak hours, like what SMRT did??

There is already 113A, with 2 buses serving this SWT

SMB66X SG

There is already 113A, with 2 buses serving this SWT

Woops :/ I think there's a need for more buses then..

SBS5011L SG

Hougang crowd is more of school students. U shud try taking 113 from kovan after 7pm till 9pm. U can wait there and see the much bigger crowd, full load at kovan station.

BusAnalayzer SG

Hougang crowd is more of school students. U shud try taking 113 from kovan after 7pm till 9pm. U can wait there and see the much bigger crowd, full load at kovan station.

As I said in my first post, I came back to Kovan MRT around 7.10pm and waited for 20-25 minutes to observe. In this time frame, there was one bus of 113A that came and another of 113. Both the buses had similar pattern. The 113A bus took away 60pax and the 113 went with 65-70 pax.

I do agree there is quite a bit of loading at Kovan with 50-60 pax boarding every bus. With Minton, this could increase but given the proximity of Minton to Serangoon, I am sure people will prefer to get down at Blk 161 and walk. It is quite a short walk. It would be foolish for someone (unless old and PIW who want bus at door step) to go to Kovan and wait for 113 when you have so many services from Serangoon taking you to Blk 161. So I don't see Minton a reason for crowd on 113 increasing.

BusAnalayzer SG

Also I have observed this many times. The main crowd on 113 is from HG Ave 1, not Lor Ah Soo. In fact I observed the people who were on the bus when it turned to Lor Ah Soo, were mostly the ones who boarded on HG St 21 and HG Ave 1 rather than Kovan MRT. Also on return leg, people who boarded on Lor Ah Soo actually got down at HG Ave 1 and HG St 21.

Basically, through my route I saw that people take 113 for very short distances.

SBS5011L SG

Well kovan does have great food afterall. I notice alot of office workers like to buy food from kovan and take 113 home. Morning school hours 113 quite packed also. 70 pax every bus from kovan station towards yuying. Maybe u can try 6.30am-7.25am.

Alternatively try spotting 113 from hougang st 21 blk 210. U can hear many pax cursing away that they cant board the bus. There will be several buses fully packed.

I think u have never seen 113 off peak full before?

BusAnalayzer SG

Alternatively try spotting 113 from hougang st 21 blk 210. U can hear many pax cursing away that they cant board the bus. There will be several buses fully packed.

I think u have never seen 113 off peak full before?

For those particular times lots, you can have added capacity. SBST is going on adding capacity on sv 45 and sv 53. I think it is encouraging people from Lor Ah Soo and HG Ave 1 to go to Serangoon rather than Kovan.

I still feel add one more bus for 113A will do the job well.

SBS5011L SG

Basically, through my route I saw that people take 113 for very short distances.

Most of the time i see is most pax alight at lorong ah soo opposite NKF. Alighting at kovan station is more of ppl going to work. Ppl alighting along hougang st 21 is for going to the FC to makan.

SBS5011L SG

I still feel add one more bus for 113A will do the job well.

2 DD buses if planned well, it would work well. School students will love to go to the upper deck. Office workers too.

SBS Transit is smart enough not to perm citaros on 113. Otherwise it would be a disaster

BusAnalayzer SG

Hougang crowd is more of school students. U shud try taking 113 from kovan after 7pm till 9pm. U can wait there and see the much bigger crowd, full load at kovan station.

Also since you say highest loading point is after 7pm - even better. Have crossover DDs from sv 107 or sv 153 that come from CBD to do sv 113A after 7pm rather than them going to the depot.

SBS5011L SG

Also since you say highest loading point is after 7pm - even better. Have crossover DDs from sv 107 or sv 153 that come from CBD to do sv 113A after 7pm rather than them going to the depot.

Great idea. But how will SBS Transit be able to Accept this feedback?

sbst191 SG

Date: 06-Sep, Day: Friday evening

Time of boarding: 18.13 at HCI

Hougang Interchange (13)

Upper Serangoon Road

Hougang Plaza (-3,9) (19)

Blk 465 (-5,5) (19)

Hougang Ave 8

Punggol Park (-5,4) (18)

Blk 434 (-5,3) (16)

Hougang Ave 6

Punggol CC (-4,3) (15)

Hougang Ave 10

Blk 521, HG MRT (-6,4) (13)

Blk 239 (-1,2) (14)

Hougang Swimming Complex (-2,4) (16)

Hougang Ave 2

Blk 709 (-3, 10) (23)

Upper Serangoon Road

Serangoon JC (-5, 10) (28)

Glad Tidings Church (-1, 3) (30)

Kovan MRT (-18, 52) (65) 65 pax PEAK LOADING

Hougang St 21

St 21 FC (-10, 8) (63)

Blk 210 (-4, 3) (62)

Hougang Ave 1

Blk 232 (-14, 2) (50)

Blk 239 (-21, 2) (31)

Blk 105 Market (-13, 3) (21)

Lor Ah Soo

Blk 115 (-8, 0) (13)

Paya Lebar Girls School (-4, 1) (10)

Blk 146 (-3, 0) (7)

Hougang St 11

Blk 158 (-4, 3) (6)

Upper Paya Lebar Road

Blk 161 (-3, 9) (12)

Lor Ah Soo

Blk 146 (0, 3) (15)

Paya Lebar Girls School (0, 8) (23)

Blk 115 (-2, 7) (28)

Hougang Ave 1

Aljunied CC (-4, 10) (34)

Yuying Sec School (-7, 7) (34)

Blk 232 (-2, 7) (39)

Hougang St 21

Blk 210 (-5, 7) (41)

Blk 207 (-7, 6) (40)

Upper Serangoon Road

Kovan MRT (-32, 18) (26)

How long did the whole trip take?

The last time i took 113 from HCI at 6.45pm and reached HCI at 8:15pm. The whole bus was full after it departed kovan station and the bus didnt turn into hougang street 21 after the BC asked if anyone wanted to alight.

sgbuses SG

Great idea. But how will SBS Transit be able to Accept this feedback?

1800-CALL-LTA

BusAnalayzer SG

How long did the whole trip take?

I didn't do the whole trip. I did HCI to HG St 11 and back to Kovan. What do you mean by the bus did not turn into HG st 21? Then where did it go?

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