RS250 Vs NSR 250

last SG · 2002-07-18T11:40:24+00:00

I guess everyone here is free to speak about bike related stuff and to talk about their own riding preferences.. but only actions speak louder eh? hehe.. m...

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MoNsTer SG

ricky siao liao!!!! help~! some1 help him...

btw ricky b4 u go into wood bridge.. leave ur bike at my hse hor.. and put the key into my mail box.. lolx!

KneeSlider SG

come to think of it... i once admired the pgm4... for its smart styling, cool high tech ignition, and also those hrc cards...
dry clutch was introduced to me from the pgm4... and those exhausts from left and right... Wink sweeet...

rs250 was a killer bike Twisted Evil when i was 20, those who rode it seemed like track racers even if they were really poseurs... when faced with a rs250 at a traffic light... it was really cool to test pick up with it and see how far i could be in front or lag behind...

in 97, forums were becoming popular places to meet fellow bikers Laughing when all your personal friends werent interested in bikes... and soon different groups of bikers were formed online... but ever so often, a dominant group always pioneered first... and later some internal conflict would split the group... where there would first be only one forum, later there would be lots more coming up coz of difference of views... Crying or Very sad

it just shows that over the years, bikers who cant accept the views of others just move on, and cant really blend in together... Embarassed harley owners came up wif their own group, while sportsbike owners came up wif theirs, and scramblers had their own group... and even so... sportsbikes riders could be splitted into 4strokes and 2strokes enthusiast, or big bikes and smaller bikes... similarly scramblers....

so after seeing all the groups come and go... i think most pple who ride bikes just wont be able to continue mixing wif others who have a different school of thought.. no matter wat...

hardcore riders Cool will group up, while the tourers will group up, track racers group up and groups also will be splitted up into classes, where 2b 2a and 2 will each have a group...

i belong to a group of riders who speak what they feel, and when certain issues are new and unfamiliar to us, we talk about it and try to find the right way about it... never really acceptting myths for wat they are...

forums will always have clashes Mr. Green , so this isnt new.. when someone says something that u dont agree with... whats wrong with replying with a comment? and adding some wit Cool just provides entertainment for the rest... or if anyone took whatever said to heart... then maybe u are taking forums abit too seriously Wink and time to keep away from the net to adjust back to real life dude... Smile [/b]

MS SG

I guess we just have to express our point of views. I agree with some of your points posted earlier. Some pple may not agree, but we'll just have to respect them. Different pple sees things differently.
As for Nismo Henry, I guess you need to re think about some of the things you portrayed. There should be some miscommunications between you and others that caused pple to think you're a show off etc. I've come across many forums and pple around having the same negative impression about you. Perhaps you should try and think why pple think that way, maybe you were wrong in some places? Of course this is only my suggestion.
Why not we talk things out nicely and consider about how pple feel?

Yah I agree that different points of views can seperate pple and might cause enimity. So we have our Racial Harmony Day in SAF to acknowledge the importance of harmony in our multi racial society. Just like our biking world, I don't like Honda bikes and will not buy Honda bikes doesn't mean its lousy. It may seem very suitable for some other pple. I don't find the bikes I support (Suzuki, aprilia, MV Agusta, Benelli) are being widely supported by many pple too. But they aren't lousy bikes too.

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Ah^Huat SG

Originally posted by KneeSlider:
come to think of it... i once admired the pgm4... for its smart styling, cool high tech ignition, and also those hrc cards...
dry clutch was introduced to me from the pgm4... and those exhausts from left and right... sweeet...

rs250 was a killer bike when i was 20, those who rode it seemed like track racers even if they were really poseurs... when faced with a rs250 at a traffic light... it was really cool to test pick up with it and see how far i could be in front or lag behind...

in 97, forums were becoming popular places to meet fellow bikers when all your personal friends werent interested in bikes... and soon different groups of bikers were formed online... but ever so often, a dominant group always pioneered first... and later some internal conflict would split the group... where there would first be only one forum, later there would be lots more coming up coz of difference of views...

it just shows that over the years, bikers who cant accept the views of others just move on, and cant really blend in together... harley owners came up wif their own group, while sportsbike owners came up wif theirs, and scramblers had their own group... and even so... sportsbikes riders could be splitted into 4strokes and 2strokes enthusiast, or big bikes and smaller bikes... similarly scramblers....

so after seeing all the groups come and go... i think most pple who ride bikes just wont be able to continue mixing wif others who have a different school of thought.. no matter wat...

hardcore riders will group up, while the tourers will group up, track racers group up and groups also will be splitted up into classes, where 2b 2a and 2 will each have a group...

i belong to a group of riders who speak what they feel, and when certain issues are new and unfamiliar to us, we talk about it and try to find the right way about it... never really acceptting myths for wat they are...

forums will always have clashes , so this isnt new.. when someone says something that u dont agree with... whats wrong with replying with a comment? and adding some wit just provides entertainment for the rest... or if anyone took whatever said to heart... then maybe u are taking forums abit too seriously and time to keep away from the net to adjust back to real life dude... [/b]

I like your style of talking. Thumbs up for you. True, no matter how docile one can be, when many ppl forms a group, and the group becomes larger, there will be quarrels. Be it bikers or what, this rule applies to almost all.

What is the point of keep persisting in your views if someone is not willing to believe in what you say, you know you are right, you are right. No need to brain wash another to believe in you. Maybe sometimes, we should just let go of the ones that are not willing to accept changes.

Maxlean SG

KNeeSlider,

hm......from the way u sound, i think i know who u r and who u ride with. There's a group of talented riders out there who can really ride well. And i know they dun track....yet they are as fast as HELL. dun tell me u belong to them...........hehe. Leaving lines round the bends at 200kmh is wat you guys do best right??

I agree, often than not people think they are "there" once the got the ultimate machine....!

In other words, 1300cc doenst mean anything! For me a SUZUKI Swift is 1300cc hahaha

Your a darn right..theres a clear difference btw a biker and a rider!!

So just ride to the fullest and learnt from the wisest.....cos we will never know whn will we need that xtra skills.....

Laughing

KneeSlider SG

Well, i dont mean to offend anyone wif my posts...

its just that maybe i am a perfectionist... or trying to be like one...
and when something doesnt seem right... i would comment... and since this is a forum.. i dont think i really have to hold back... i still keep my comments clean and no unneccesary stuff...

i come from a group of riders who think that if u wanna have a say in anything... show us what u got first... and if u are really what u say u are.. we would love to have u ride with us... but if u are all bull and cant ride... its ok to hang with us... but keep your comments down coz we arent interested to get TIPS from pple who cant do what they say.... get what i mean??
smart alecks arent welcomed in every organization.. not in school, not in army, not in my company, not in religious societies not anywhere...

there is nothing wrong with commenting about stuff... just do it bearing in mind who are u commenting in front of... Joe Lee wouldnt speak up about racing lines if he were standing in front of Doohan and Rossi... neither will i comment if i were standing in front of Razali or Malik or Peter Tan, even Desmond and his ducati...

if Tai Seng Kooi were to sit at ur table in the cafe... would u dare comment about racing and stuff? i would seek his approval about stuff before daring to openly comment it... especially in public...

i might not be a very good rider... but at least i know where i stand.. i have made lots of mistakes before, got into gruesome accidents, and hilarious incidents on my bike.. rode back from thailand in heavy rain and rode along karak highway at night... genting is like 100 kentridge park put together...
i have been lucky not to see any of my biking friends depart before me... but i have seen lots of distant ppl i know gone to the racetrack up in heaven...

what my purpose is in this forum is so that i can share certain things that cant be learnt from bbdc and books... and through constant communication is where i can pass off what i have learnt... and yet there are stuff that i can learn from others in this forum still... as i periodically browse through the forum...

riders are outnumbered on the roads.. and if riders dont stand for each other and share wif each other, that will be such a shame...

hope that everyone who shares a passion for riding like those special pple i know and ride with will enjoy their riding till the end of their days...

Gary Rothwell said this about learning how to do certain stunts..

Some people obviously read this and go and try time and time again but will never get it right I am sorry but for you people there is no cure. Some have it some don't !!

For the people who do get it right and the people who don't please remember just ride safe and within your limits do not try to go past them because at the end of the day it might not have been worth it.

i think that says it all.... Cool

KneeSlider SG

Just in case for those who dont know who Gary Rothwell is....

http://www.garyrothwell.com

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TZR SG

hehe no need lah, i very cool~ don worry dear hehe

TZR SG

In net nevermind of coz, but if real life u would have see your arms broken liao...

ah_tee SG

eh, how come FZR suddenlt come into the qns?

RepL|cA SG

okie no offense to all to regarding comments.

PGM 4 is big and runs quite well and maintanance is affordable.As for the perfomance for RS 250 with tio top condition,it can easily beat any CBRs.Its really fast for a 250 cc bike with 2 chromed exhaust pipes sticking out but aprilia maintanence is damm high and parts keep spoiling and they wear and tear fast.So i guess its up to the rider to decide.As for looks i go for aprilia..

Next about RVF....u think its fast? i saw a drag race in CCK cemetary involving a RVF and a solid yamaha R1.Rvf was given headstart of 4-5 lamposts and the R1 juz zoom past him leaving him eating dust.So it all depends on the rider or the higher cc performance.

TZR SG

To KNEESLIDER aka "Balls^cracker":

no matter how hard he try he is still behind the first two bikes?? dont agree... have u watched Rossi race the whole season? he waits till the right time and then passes...

silly... who doesnt waits for the right time to pass... wanna pass pass meh? no brains...

so is that something to shout about? when there are nsr150 sp's that can hit 220? wow.. wat a pgm4! cool...

1st he never shout, how u know he shout? u chat with him on phone issit? lolx *fool*

2nd example PGM takes 8 seconds to touch 210km/hr but SP150 takes a bloody 18 seconds to touch 220km/hr, if both bikes go at the same time SP150 eventually will smell smoke, hope ur silly brain knows what i'm talking about.

well well this boils down to EQ... why cant wait a year till the 2a turns green and then go get class2 and then upgrade?? delayed gratification always worked for me.... so if u got eQ u would do that, rather than having the fastest 2a bike and then next year ur peers all upgrade and get just a stock r1 or something and then outrun u at every traffic light and on the way to KL?? which is kinda lame... erm and if u pay a minimum down payment and pay instalments over 4 years... i dont think u have to fork out 15k straight... unless u CASHED your bike then its a different story of course mr busa...

Talking about EQ, what is EQ? U like to talk so much why don u explain what is EQ? lolx *fool again*

Next, people like to buy class 2 or not non of your business. Why don u ask the old man on the road why he rides vespa? He eat so old liao retire fund also smelly smelly can buy 2 R1s, why he chose vespa instead??? COZ HE LIKE~ *FOOL*

lets see u saying that in peter's face... so u doing any better?? your name Razali by any chance?? or joseph lee? so what if he is second... for all i know u arent even worthy of cleaning his kneesliders....

If he doesn have the worth to clean his knee slider, that means u don even have the worth to clean his crap lah? rite? lolx

Oh i have rode a 400 four stroke for 5months and i've toyed around with my buddy's pgm4 wif race cans and hrc card wp damper digital tachometer and yes the sound is great... but everyone in singapore has to upgrade sometime...
mr hayabusa... for the kr that beats the 929 i didnt just hear it from just any "friend"... straight from the mouth of meng tong... or maybe u dont know who he is either?? if u do.. u know that the kr i am talking about is shit ass fast!

maybe ur "friend's" PGM bway gan??? lolx~~~ thats why lose to a crappy KR.... Damper is used for cornerings, digital tacho is used to read your speed... i don see any points these gadgets helps to increase speed lor... so i think u are talking crap again...

end of the day... all we say here is just nice talk... maybe one day we should meet up and let our riding to the talking dont you say?
but then again... u might be too occupied with making lame comments online and never really ride enuff...

maybe we shd meet up not to test skills, we chat enuff liao... Cool So u means u ride alot? yeah... and u also talk alot... *crappy + full of shit*

shhhhhh we all know wats going on... still early... no fires... i kinda find you a little extra to the topics that go on though... we are seriously sharing views on bikes and stuff... whereas all your posts seem very out of point... abit absurd... mr monster.. i think if you dont have any serious biking stuff to say in such a technical forum... its better to enjoy reading the posts than to make lame comments... and by the way.. are u in sec sch or something? u sound really young.. go home kid
boys arent allowed to ride the streets

room for grown men only... catch my drift

u know whats going on? hmmm do u smell some kinda shit smell?? i think u have... coz its coming outta your mouth... lolx~ Laughing

And who is extra down here? Look at your post and Monster's post.

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MoNsTer
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She smelly smelly been here longer than u, knows all the people here well enough and posted 700 over posts than u this "junior". So who u calling extra? U rite? U judge people's education by the way they talk heh? So i think u don even pass NURSERY lamer~ Loser~ Cool Don even know the gender of Monster still wans to act sud.... lolx... loser.. Wink

i do fancy stunts and also track meetings... and whatever that all bikers like too... but what i dont like is, bikers who know nutz about riding commenting like they are someone who has been there done that... know wat i'm saying? guess of all people you should...

hah~ don make me laugh leh... u join track meetings ah? So do u talk this way during ur "meeting"? Hmmm i think all ur so called "track friends" must be stabbing u from ur back everyday~ lolx...

Mr Ni^cracker, do u born to know how to walk? do u born to know how to ride? If u think people dono nuts about bikes stuffs, u shd have the courtesy to explain, if people don agree with your points, as a matured civilised cultured human being u shd have leanrt to view other people's points and deicide if its acceptable and make courtesy remarks or change other people's thinking nicely with COURTESY, and suitable reasons. Not just critising people and blurt out your un-reasonable craps and expect people to think your way. One word for you, SELFISH.

as for the rest in this place... hint hint.. if the forum is really about RACETRACKS so when i talk about racetrack related stuff, am i out of point?

FYI this forum's name is called "Racetrack" but it doesn't means we have to FULLY talk about track issues. If u say this TOPIC is about racetrack then u can jolly well stick to that topic and chat your track issues and not joining other un-related topics to you and crap. We have no prob with that.

Hey you guys are fun when people get angry, they start to say the strangest things...

Again u are a fool, he isnt angry at all from what we see lor. hahaha u like to ASSUME things hor? Your posts from head to toe is all assuming.... lolx.... *lame*
now adays i am more into playing wif 260 bends and such... so there is a bit of a problem hangin out coz of the wind... any tips? nahhh in gp they dont normally do 260bends... its only on the north south highway.... [/b]

eh u really strange shit leh. People ask u go PG perform ur "knee sliding" shit not ask u what north south wind, u are such a moron.. and u ask for tips? i thought u knew everything one? Need tips meh? Shoo back to your track meetings and ask lah, ask us for what? lolx... cannot make it ah u... *lame again*

i hope we have fun in this forum... and freedom of speech for everyone... but if u cant take it... then stop dishing it out

as for my bike... i am riding a litre class bike...go figure...

If u can take it, then don reply to the people who f u, watching u defend yourself from head to toe really wastes our time lor... i think u r the loser who can't take it, if u can take it why bother people giving their own opinions? *Idiot* [/b]

^^^^ dun force me to do things i dont.... blah blah blah... now i get it!!!! you are some POWER CRAZY guy who created a forum so that you can gain certain control over others... and this makes you feel realllll good so when saying things like this... about warning and dun force u to do things u dont wanna do... you actually satisfy you ego right??

TAAA~~ Wrong~ lolz... u ASSUME and u're a FOOL again.... he has controls not for ego sake but just to squeeze balls of people like U. Kicking butts like yours~ lolx~ Lame~ Hey where's your so called EQ? Locked inside your cupboard didnt bring out ah? LOLx.. Laughing

so what can u do? look at my posts... i have been posting stuff about bikes and tech stuff... but some people just cant take it that the techniques they have are different and might be inferior... and have i been posting about LOVE lost and other crap?

Wrong again, from head to toe u are just posting your personal CRAPS which we are not interested in and we find that u r wasting the space of sgforums. And i thought your post u said freedom of speech? So people post about love so what has it gotta do with u? u said FREEDOM what? Why wanna PENG WAY issit? I think u are too old, old until forgotten what u have just said... *lame oldman* [/b]

if your emotions can be expressed online... and you actually think the person you wanna impress will see what you type and feel for u.... arent you being shallow? isnt posting about ur emotions on a forum abit like an exhibitionist?

its strange... but normally when i feel down or so? i get my good buddies on the phone or meet in person and just thrash it out... never online... and not in a forum!!! goodness... maybe u like to wash your dirty laundry in the open? then you should be a politician! hehehe joking joking Qu mei feng comes to mind...

I thought u said u only type technical stuffs? So whats this crap for? Got your business? Got so much time KPO go check if ur bike got kenna burn anot lor... don come here *shoo shoo* [/b]

it just shows that over the years, bikers who cant accept the views of others just move on

why u keep repeating ur craps??? u like to repeat issit? Tape it and rewind and play again and again lor~ FOOL~ New technology come out must change issit? Then why ah pek ride VESPA? *Lame fool*

i belong to a group of riders who speak what they feel, and when certain issues are new and unfamiliar to us, we talk about it and try to find the right way about it... never really acceptting myths for wat they are...

hahaha.... loser...

Well, i dont mean to offend anyone wif my posts...

Then what the FUCK is this?????

"shhhhhh we all know wats going on... still early... no fires... i kinda find you a little extra to the topics that go on though... we are seriously sharing views on bikes and stuff... whereas all your posts seem very out of point... abit absurd... mr monster.. i think if you dont have any serious biking stuff to say in such a technical forum... its better to enjoy reading the posts than to make lame comments... and by the way.. are u in sec sch or something? u sound really young.. go home kid
boys arent allowed to ride the streets

room for grown men only... catch my drift"

Can u wake up your fucking idea?

i come from a group of riders who think that if u wanna have a say in anything...

Then GO BACK to your origin, obviously here don suits u anyway..

smart alecks arent welcomed in every organization.. not in school, not in army, not in my company, not in religious societies not anywhere...

I think of all what u said, this phrase suits u the best... Wink

if Tai Seng Kooi were to sit at ur table in the cafe... would u dare comment about racing and stuff? i would seek his approval about stuff before daring to openly comment it... especially in public...

Too bad this is a humble SGFORUMs... not on that table... *fool*

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In the end, i just wanna say, u may consolidate all your tips, riding skills, experience, and CRAPS, and shove it up your ass, and get outta SGforums, coz i can tell u, majority of riders here doesn't support nor give a damn on what u've said from head to toe.
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TZR SG

One word for u KneeSlider...

LOSER

Laughing

KneeSlider SG

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TZR u really are a funny guy... u are wat..20,19? sound like it... anyway yeah yeah age doesnt matter... but ur reply to my posts? entertainment on a wet sat afternoon... kinda funny to see how u reply...

its kinda lengthy... but it sure made my gf and me have a good laff Smile

ignorance is bliss... why dont u do urself a favour and stop replying me.. coz i think u would just humiliate urself by trying... looking at the long reply... i think any third party who reads it will tink that u are some kinda kid who is trying to find something to rebutt just for the sake of it...

u werent part of any debate teams in jc or sec sch? dont think so.. coz the debate session would be really funny then...

nice to see how u compared me wif monster and ur logic that the person who posts the most has more right to talk... so i guess seeing that rossi is so young.. he shouldnt be allowed to race with roberts and barros? and maybe hodgeson in sbk should win based on age or seniority?

tzr u've been to the army yet? dont think u have... anyway u did a good job of entertaining me today Wink thanks hehehe

Cool u know something i didnt expect to have a good time in such a wet sat.... but u made it possible..

MoNsTer SG

better watch ur mouth idiot.. u are makin mi losin my temper.. u can insult mi but not my bf ok... anyway do every1 of us here a favour keep ur mouth shut.. dun keep tinkin u are very mature coz if u are u wont be hanging ard this forum.. u wil definitly have much better ting to do...

KneeSlider SG

i think its because of power to weight ratio that the r1 over took the rvf so easily on the straight even wif the rvf starting first....

rvf about 145kg? r1 175kg?
rvf 60bhp rearwheel... r1 133bhp...

so i think its like u take a hayabusa which is 220kg? and drag race with a gsxr1000 which is 170kg... although the busa has 160bhp and the gsx 144bhp... the gsxr will take the hayabusa or can fight all the way till 240-250? and after that the displacement of the busa will be advantageous....

oh yeah and i agree wif u about high maintainence of the aprilia... i think its because of the italian heritage... italian bikes all good looking but maintainence expansive... and like to break down... ducatis are also such.... Confused

No_regret SG

Originally posted by KneeSlider:
Well, i dont mean to offend anyone wif my posts...

its just that maybe i am a perfectionist... or trying to be like one...
and when something doesnt seem right... i would comment... and since this is a forum.. i dont think i really have to hold back... i still keep my comments clean and no unneccesary stuff...

i come from a group of riders who think that if u wanna have a say in anything... show us what u got first... and if u are really what u say u are.. we would love to have u ride with us... but if u are all bull and cant ride... its ok to hang with us... but keep your comments down coz we arent interested to get TIPS from pple who cant do what they say.... get what i mean??
smart alecks arent welcomed in every organization.. not in school, not in army, not in my company, not in religious societies not anywhere...

there is nothing wrong with commenting about stuff... just do it bearing in mind who are u commenting in front of... Joe Lee wouldnt speak up about racing lines if he were standing in front of Doohan and Rossi... neither will i comment if i were standing in front of Razali or Malik or Peter Tan, even Desmond and his ducati...

if Tai Seng Kooi were to sit at ur table in the cafe... would u dare comment about racing and stuff? i would seek his approval about stuff before daring to openly comment it... especially in public...

i might not be a very good rider... but at least i know where i stand.. i have made lots of mistakes before, got into gruesome accidents, and hilarious incidents on my bike.. rode back from thailand in heavy rain and rode along karak highway at night... genting is like 100 kentridge park put together...
i have been lucky not to see any of my biking friends depart before me... but i have seen lots of distant ppl i know gone to the racetrack up in heaven...

what my purpose is in this forum is so that i can share certain things that cant be learnt from bbdc and books... and through constant communication is where i can pass off what i have learnt... and yet there are stuff that i can learn from others in this forum still... as i periodically browse through the forum...

If that is the case, think everyone here will really welcome u. But the way u talk is something many of us here cant accept. And dont think u will enjoy ur stay here this way and vice versa.

riders are outnumbered on the roads.. and if riders dont stand for each other and share wif each other, that will be such a shame...

hope that everyone who shares a passion for riding like those special pple i know and ride with will enjoy their riding till the end of their days...

[b]Gary Rothwell said this about learning how to do certain stunts.. i think that says it all.... Cool [/b]

nismoS132 SG

for said people, please take note that the majority of them do not know me, nor have they spoken to me much, or even at all.

i like to reserve judgement for people i've actually met and spoken to, rather than based on hearsay. and i detest people who've judged somebody without even bothering to get to know them.

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