sp vs kips

roger SG

sp has a tyre width of 120 and kips has a tyre width of 110.

which one can turn sharper? i read in a magazine that a wider profile tyre offers more stability but at the expense of cornering ability.

is that to say a kip can corner faster?

snowball72 SG

can someone reply this?? i wanna know aso..

TZR SG

hmm exactly i dono. But wider tyres can perform better cornering abilities. So u can say that SP has better cornering handling than kips.

2nd thing is also u cannot just think of tyre wise, but also the chasis wise. SP is heavier chasis than kips, so i believe SP has more advantages to cornering.

Kips wherares made up of tube frame, playing straight road is too light enough, so cornering.. i no need to say much, sure not very stable...

so conclusions are, playing corners with SP and accompany of a pair of good low profile tyres can outstand kips within....

^TzM 53^ SG

tyres size can change wan.....the broader the with the lower u can go...provided yr tyres r not too high

kof-guy SG

it means SP tyres are fatter, so they take will take more time to enter a corner, but becoz they're fatter, they provide more traction = more grip = less likely to buang.

small = enter corner fast.
big = more traction in corner.

but if tok about stability, it comes to skill liaoz. coz gp 125cc tyres are 90 front 110 rear. so see u all loh.
anyway sp rear is 120 meh?
my frens 110 leh...

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LexZEUS SG

I have question on rim and tyre (NSR) :

1. Is it possible to install wider rear tyre on my standard NSR (ex. 130 or 140) without changing the rim?

2. If (1) is not possible, can I exchange the rear rim with rim from bigger bike such as CB400, Aprilia 125? I found that NSRSP rim is little bit different, it uses 1 metal holder (on the left side) with 5 screws to attach the rim. Or all Sport2B's rear rims all uses 5 screws so can exchange one to another (I can exchange to TZM or KRR)?

3. I ever see a NSR SP with black rim with chrome line on its boundary. Did he buy from shop(ex. ah boy) or respray?

Thanks!

[This message has been edited by LexZEUS (edited 13 November 2001).]

TZR SG

The rims boundary u toking abt is they use paint remover to remove the orange paint, then polish with autosol.

roger SG

would you switch to a wider tyre or do you prefer a skinnier tyre like those on RXZ?

Buggy66 SG

sp is NOT heavier den Krr.
sp is Model Name: NSR SP
Engine Type: 2 stroke - crank case reed valve water cooled engine, RC valve
Displacement: 149cc
Compression Ratio: 6.8 : 1
Maximum Power: 39.5 ps/10,500 rpm
Maximum Torque: 2.75 kg-m/ 10,000 rpm
Ignition: System CDI
Starter: Plug B9 ECS (NGK)
Transmission: 6 gear Wet multi-disc clutch
Dimensions (mm): 685 x 1,970 x 1,060mm
Wheel Base (mm): 1,335mm
Seat Height (mm): 780mm
Fuel Capacity (litres): 10.5 litres
Front Tyre: 90/80 - 17
Rear Tyre: 120/80 - 17
Rear Suspension: System Monoshock
Front Brakes: Dual piston Caliper
Rear Brakes: Dual Piston Caliper
Dry Weight (kg): 122.4 Kg

krr is

ÔÌTCY F S·1,965~S725~S1.075mm
zC[x[X F 1.300mm
Åánã F 131mm
V[g F 780mm
£dÊ F 124.5kg
GW F âQTCN
P[X[houPC
{A~Xg[N F 59~54.4mm
³kä F 7.3F1
rCÊ F 148cc
ÅoÍ F 22.1kW/10.500rpm
Ï¬@ F 6¬
n®û® F LbN®
R¿^NeÊ F 11.5k
u[Lû® F OãfBXN
^CTCY F e^90/90-17
q^110/80-17

above info in jap can b translate..but u can see that SP IS 122.4kg
krr is 124.5kg!!!!
juz bcos sp has a mould frame doesnt mean its heavier do take into consideration that the pro arm and ALL "nseen" parts...b4 u say that..

Buggy66 SG

toons9 SG

yo ppl......i heard tat since nsr sp enigne is using the reed valve thingy........tats y at 3rd gear the valve will either "open" or "close" it will not half-open, half-close....tats y at 3rd gear there's this loud knocking sound .....is tis explanation true?? if its not then how come sp 3rd gear not smooth 1? always got knocking sound.......
cheerS~

kof-guy SG

i'll use the default size, becoz it's designed for that bike liao mah.

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GAME OVER SG

I personally think that it depends mainly on the rider itself coz if i give a lousy rider a ZX-12(for example) & a RVF to a 'lao jiao'... The lousy rider might not even dare to play cornering unlike the 'lao jiao'... It depends on what type of tire u use also lah... Not "IRC" tire & that's for sure... Very Happy

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TZR SG

sorry wrong info.... no need be so stern right?

Taking2B SG

fark lah , it all depends on the rider . If you know your bike can take it and you got skill .

fp2075r SG

Wah lau u damn hou lian siol~~~i think next time ur bike use scrambler knobblies lah see u can corner anot...kekekek.. pls lah tyres make a big difference... when u r pushing ur bikes limit..

^TzM 53^ SG

thn i ask u something.....do u think i can ant?? no....let me rephrase that...u think i can show u sparks outside yr fucking shop ant ??or the the cte turning?? and where the fuck u went??? knn so long mia...btw the motorbike thing.... can return soon liao don worry.... Very Happy

^TzM 53^ SG

R1 relac he only wanna fuck wif me nia...relac...i noe him too well Very Happy