synthetic or semi synthetic for new bike

roger SG

just bought a kips. want to know which type of 2T and gearbox oil you would recommend

owm SG

Hi there,

I used Castrol TTS (fully synthetic) on my TZM before but since my riding style is rather sedate, it resulted in a lot of oily residue at my exhaust pipe. I gathered that it is only worth to use if you are always riding at higher RPMs, say 8000 and above. Also, there is a lot of white smoke at start ups.

I am now using Yamalube 2S which is semi-synthetic and I am pretty happy with it. Doesn't seem to have any detrimental effects nor did I notice much performance difference between it and the TTS.

As for gearbox oil, I am using Shell 4T as it is the recommended oil to use by Yamaha Japan for Yamaha bikes.

roger SG

where can you buy the Yamalube and how much does it cost?

al SG

can we mix 2T? let's say i use brand x first, after a while i top it up using brand y. will it harm the engine?

roger SG

its better to drain out the old 2T first before putting another new brand type in it.

TZR SG

Yes 2T can be mixed. No problem at all. *depends of what bike oso* But if u wish ur 2T reservior filled with pure brand x 2T than don mix lor. Otherwise, imagine ur 2T reservior machiam rojak~ hahaha But won harm lah.

owm SG

Hi roger,

The Yamalube 2S can be purchased from Yamaha Workshop at Citipoint Industrial Complex. I think some shops along Serangoon Road sells it too. It cost S$6.50 per 800ml bottle, made in USA.

al SG

i suppose we just top up 2T when it goes low. but how often should we change gearbox oil? any clue?

TZR SG

u mean engine oil ha? If by theory is 3000km-5000km u must change. But by practical is when u feel rough and difficult in shifting gears then u change.

al SG

i got confused. are they the same, gearbox oil and engine oil?

owm SG

Hi there,

I think if you are talking about 2 stroke bikes, then engine oil is the same as gearbox oil in this context as I notice a lot of people using the terms this way.

Best way is to follow what your manual defines and stick with it. In my manual, engine oil = 2T oil while transmission oil = gearbox oil.

TZR SG

aiyah, in SG, we only tok abt 2 kinda oils. 2T and Engine oil. 2T is for 2 strokes bike only. Engine oil is for every bike.

Noah SG

Hi,
I am a new rider too, so I am not sure if I am corrct. As far as I know, 2T oil goes into a tank under your seat. This oil lubricates the piston block in your engine.

4T oil goes into the gear box near the engine. This oil lubricates the gears in the gearbox.

Noah

Noah SG

Hi Roger,
I have a Kawasaki too. Am using Castrol TTS for 2T and Castrol GPS for 4T. So far so good. Except one thing, I have some white smoke during starting.

roger SG

hi Noah

i do see some white smoke from my bike when starting. i thinks its normal. after running for about 5 minutes, the white smoke should disappear.

i am using the caltex 2t oil. as for gearbox oil, i am using the oil that comes with the bike.

do u think i should change?

^TzM 53^ SG

noah…sat going bo ??

fp2075r SG

I dunno bout 2 stroke bikes but for 4 strokes we use semi syn for the run in peroid to let the gears grind..after that then change to fully syn.. but run in muz remember not to drag..

Noah SG

ZM, sorry man. Saturday wokring full day ...
Come back so tired already ....

Noah SG

Hi roger,
if you prefer, you can flush and change your 4T oil lor .... or you can run until it gets low or you need to send in for regular check up then ask the tech to change for you lor .... It is recommended that you use a fully synthetic oil. Better they say. Especially for new bikes.

Yah, the white smoke syndrome disappears aafter you get going. So I guess it's ok. But still dun like the fact got smoke.

roger SG

i think we have to live with the fact that all 2 stroke bikes have smoke.

if u want a smokeless one, then 4 stroke is the only solution