Sunshine Empire

last SG · 2008-01-21T16:04:32+00:00

He's Wilson. A low-intelligence musclehead who's slightly plump. hmmm... wat have he done to u..

abductboy SG

Christopher.... I do not post any-o-how, or if I do not have the evidence.

Please refer below..... This is the original SE Letter, the underlined and bolded words are SE's own.

aHGer^83 SG

wahahahha~~~
very very interesting~!~~~~

kyoshirou77 SG

Simple Mathematics......

so u say u got CRP 10% of SE Turn Over from EMall and Prime Plans (Emcom fall under here)

say u gotten 300 USD as CRP.

say SE have 15000 GP holders.

then 300 USD x 15000 Members = 4500000 = 4.5M/Month

So SE 100% Turn Over per Month is 45M/Month. *Hmmm, wow !!!*

45Millions / 30 days = 1.5M/Days

So in a daily basic, u need to have generate 1.5M which included sales of

(Emall's Commission + GP) = 1.5M/Day

So say 1GP is 12k......

1.5M / 12k = 125 GP sales/day or Emall cut a commission of 500k which it is possible?.

So juggle between daily....if SE got 100GP Sales, still need to have 300k from Emall'a Commissions.

Either daily or weekly or monthly, hitting 45Millions just to churn out 10% which is 4.5Millions (300USD) to pay those greedy brainless worshiper, possible?

Say for example......

Cutting a 2750 GP deals in a months, which is only 33Millions, So Emall gonna cut minimum at least 12Millions a month just to get 45Millions to pay your 300USD, are sure Emall with that pathetic net traffic can earn 12 Millions Commssion Razz

So another MATH Questions, how much commissions do Emall cut?

if it it just a noble 10% for each transaction, then Emall is selling 120Millions worth of items?

What are you guys selling? Weapon of Mass Destruction? Overpriced Dream Catcher?

fudgester SG

Let's put this bluntly, then:

What products and services do SE sell?

And if you want to tell me about all this 'merchant plans' and 'prime plans' and whatever the heck they all are, please elaborate on how they are 'products and services'.

Because I've been asking this simple question since the previous thread, and no one has ever been able to give me a simple, concrete answer.

kyoshirou77 SG

Doubt he can also.....he who already miss interpreted their SE Official Letter.

Haiz, another time waster coming in without "Nuke".

Later get sued by SE, then disown like the University SE Supporters, SAD!

redstone SG

Say, if I make Mr A buy one of my memberships, and get Mr B to buy... Then get Miss C to buy too. So for Mr A I take Miss C and Mr B's money to pay Mr A, while using a telecoms company as a facade, also offering free callback services. Sound fishy?

D-TEG SG

Sunshine Empire officially have any products or services? If i am not wrong MTI states that company must a have products or service to sell.
I don't see if there is any? Well, they can claim that they sell online stores for people to sell stuffs. But the point is that even i own the E-store, without any transacted business i get paid. Meaning i rent a shop in Ngee Ann City, instead of me paying rent, i am paid by landlord to rent the place, no doubt there is 3+1 rental, i still paid SGD12K to Sunshine Empire for "rent" of webspace but whether are there any business transactions i get paid by "landlord" every month for the next 10 yrs instead of me paying the "landlord"?
In cantonese saying: where got such a big frog jumping around on the street?
Investors should look into it and really get out of it.

kyoshirou77 SG

Not into Law, but SEA

They claimed the "products" are Mall Points and Emcom Service's Wink

Law seem never state that it must be a either "Solid" or "Virtual" objects.

So is Legal.

Phaze SG

It seems to me that the "product" they are selling is epoints.

epoints is like a currency. Let's call it the James Phang Dollar.

The James Phang Dollar has no value. To give the James Phang Dollar value, he needs people to buy James Phang Dollars using other currencies that have value.

By promising high returns, he's basically asking people to lend him real money at a high interest rate.

He needs to continue paying out in order to maintain confidence in the James Phang Dollar so that people will continue to buy James Phang Dollars.

Assuming people keep buying James Phang Dollars, he has a float of money that he's able to use for investing in "real" projects. Once people stop buying, he has to rapidly depreciate the value of the James Phang Dollar so he does not have to pay back what people bought.

laurence82 SG

Its even damaging when one ignorant investor pitch himself against several well informed people

redstone SG

It's quite... entertaining

abductboy SG

to my

Originally posted by abductboy:

They are accepting despite the CAD investigation. You wish me to betray my SE friends who informed me?

After 2000+ posts in the last SE thread, are we to start all over again?

I just checked and SE Singapore IS CLOSED although SE office in Toa Payoh is still operating.

BUT, people can still sign up under other countries via their Uplines ... that's means as an International Merchant.

Those that still continue to do so, should take heed of this particular sentence of the case published in Newpaper about Swiss cash (http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/news/story/0,4136,153943,00.html)

In 2006, two Malaysian datuks and six others were placed in remand by Malaysian authorities. They helped in investigations into SwissCash, reported The Business Times.

In China, police found that 170,000 people had placed 1.36 billion yuan ($268 million) with SwissCash, Xinhua news agency reported.

More than 3,300 organisers and core members were arrested in 14 provinces and cities last year.

christopher_rf SG

When Cola transfer funds to grapes, they sign a contract, contract states that grapes will take out 50% of turnover to cola, but than again, its up to cola whether to give out the rebates to the pioneer customers.

christopher_rf SG

Originally posted by kyoshirou77:

Simple Mathematics......

so u say u got CRP 10% of SE Turn Over from EMall and Prime Plans (Emcom fall under here)

say u gotten 300 USD as CRP.

say SE have 15000 GP holders.

then 300 USD x 15000 Members = 4500000 = 4.5M/Month

So SE 100% Turn Over per Month is 45M/Month. *Hmmm, wow !!!*

45Millions / 30 days = 1.5M/Days

So in a daily basic, u need to have generate 1.5M which included sales of

(Emall's Commission + GP) = 1.5M/Day

So say 1GP is 12k......

1.5M / 12k = 125 GP sales/day or Emall cut a commission of 500k which it is possible?.

So juggle between daily....if SE got 100GP Sales, still need to have 300k from Emall'a Commissions.

Either daily or weekly or monthly, hitting 45Millions just to churn out 10% which is 4.5Millions (300USD) to pay those greedy brainless worshiper, possible?

Say for example......

Cutting a [b]2750 GP deals in a months, which is only 33Millions, So Emall gonna cut minimum at least 12Millions a month just to get 45Millions to pay your 300USD, are sure Emall with that pathetic net traffic can earn 12 Millions Commssion Razz

So another MATH Questions, how much commissions do Emall cut?

if it it just a noble 10% for each transaction, then Emall is selling 120Millions worth of items?

What are you guys selling? Weapon of Mass Destruction? Overpriced Dream Catcher?

[/b]

like i said, company can choose to give out more CRP, its entirely up to them,

currently all singapore CRP only range from 70-200 usd,

and are u sure turnover is 45m?

redstone SG

And as a customer, Mr X receiving payout, would u be curious where Cola Corp gets such high returns to distribute to customers since Mr X had put in alot of money insid?

Felt Cheated By NTI SG

Are you that Christopher Rio? One of James Phang's Loyal Big Dog Jackie Hoo's Little Dogs, Christopher? The one who ride motorbike and fell down and lost the whole fucking teeth? Are you that idiot fucker?

laurence82 SG

I remember last time they did post this guy's friendster link before

laurence82 SG

And without guarantee, all the promises about high returns are just that...promises

It doesnt make the scheme more fantastic than any other investment scheme

redstone SG

And where does this money come from is still fishy.

Money made from selling GPs and a cut of commission from Emall given as monetary payout to other GP holders? Sounds very fishy to me.

xdrave SG

my fren juz update me. they still havent receive payment for this yr/this month de

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