Repost: Sunshine Empire

last SG · 2007-09-04T10:40:07+00:00

Originally posted on HWZ: LOL I just heard from my SE friend that Emall allows anyone, be it SE or non-SE members, to join as a seller but they must be refer...

Beachy Composer SG

Hi all,

I've a friend who is now working in this so called a company that are trying to absorb fund from the public retailer *Uncle auntie granny*.

They offered a few scheme where I think it's rubbish but attractive in marketing to greedy people.

Buy 1 GP for nearly S$12,000 and every month you can get back about average 10%
But you are not able to sell your GP back to company again. If people who doesn't know this They will keep on buying GP when they got the profit and Up till when the company starts to pay low return to the Gp that holder has, they can't sell it away and will stuck their money in the company, it can't be a shares to have a voting right to say anything. They are doing Taiwan 'Dan Shui' Islandwide Internet Wifi...

I heard about this project, but i doubt they will be doing this.
So my point to this company will be a Scam in the long term when they can't absorb anymore fund they will collaspe and run away, meanwhile they're earning ..... People who just buy 1 GP... Just leave it there and stop buying, So you will be getting back your 100% in 10months time.... So Please comment

brokenluv SG

haha ur experience not the 1st

Beachy Composer SG

Haha, I've done MLM like 7-8years ago... Had bad experience in all these scammer job, did some Bucket shop before, but quitted too, too much scamming on others Hard earned $$$....

And My friend is doing it, persuade also no use, in the end, she keep persuading me to join her... Haha

emcom SG

everyone got their own mindset..

Just stand aside and watch if your prediction comes true Wink

the_fallen SG

the prediction will not come TRUE, BUT RATHER IT WILL HAPPENED SOONER OR LATER, It's Just A Matter Of Time ONLY!!

With The Increasing Negative News Coverage Awareness, Only REAL FOOLS (greedy) will stay and continue whatever their doing..

dot_dot SG

Y not u guys make a trip down to kinokuniya at orchard some day, go read up some books on network marketing, and see how some of the world’s top business analysts and professionals describe networking as one of the next source of income of the economy…

Agenda SG

my friend inside tis company.. keep trying to recruit classmates

laurence82 SG

it does not answer the issue at hand

redstone SG

So typical Laughing desperate as usual, trying to pull people who are not interested in.

the_fallen SG

do u wanna meet up to listen to the facts which i've got and the articles which i have?

perhaps u can call your frens to listen to the audio again if you missed it.

there're couple of people who have the audio, but I have got more articles with black and white agreements..

if you're interested, just let me know if you want to stop/caution your frens about this scam.

emcom SG

Dun tell me what sooner or later la...

Sooner or later u will also leave this world...
Sooner or later u will also...

You quite despo asking ppl to meet up hor.. isit sooner or later or u running out of prospect liao? LOL

brokenluv SG

lol ur this fren mite lose the trust of his classmates if he uses unethical methods le

the_fallen SG

i would not say might, but rather CONFIRM + GUARANTEE + CHOP CHOP will lose the trust and friends will stay clear of people in this company..

i had my fair share of losing frens when i was in this company couple of years back..

thus i'm here just trying to share my experience and not wanting others to walk/jump into the trap when it's so obvious..

but apparently, a lot of the people ARE BLINDED BY GREED!!

Game1980 SG

actually good to get cheated early in life
U can make up in future

Anyway my friend almost recoup her capital so it's okay to shut down the company any time

When I called TNP they already investigating and will publish report soon
Sigh no more free HP

the_fallen SG

if you want to call up TNP, gather some materials which you if any.

The reason that they are only in investigation stage currently is because they lack evidence to pin it down exactly..

so the more people complain the better.

if anyone wants to know how to complain and what to complain, we can discuss in details together.

The more the merrier, thus MORE = Power = Determine if the investigation process will speed up etc..

Game1980 SG

I called already but they say not new story so no hp to give out
So i gave up

Anyway my friend is undercover and she made back her money but she feel quite worried that more people will get cheated so ask me to expose it

But guess no need me to be busybody
She is now sleeping partner

emcom SG

If you do MLM in resulting to lose your fren just show you duno how to manage your r/s well. A abit of a loser that you come here is kp..

If you just wanna share experience here with ppl, why u always keep hinting them to meet you up.. thats a big disguise of what you trying to do.

Not that im against your posting here.. bec it really contridicting!

the_fallen SG

Point Number 1
If it's good, it's good, if it's bad, friends that you bring into the company will doubt your intentions and avoid you sooner or later depending on how fast or slow they realized that it's something not right.

Although you might feel that your company is good currently, but why didn't you go and think again, why are there so many negative news when you feel it's good?

Note: It's not 1 person who says it, now its the national radio and newspapers giving out warnings.

Am I wrong, or Or the Public Wrong?

OR

Are you wrong? Just that you refuse to accept reality?

Notice something:

It's not a few people against your company but RATHER some countries are against your company. So who is right?

Country (Web-site on Investors Alert List) or your company?

Lol - I guess the answer is Extremely Obvious.

Point Number 2
If I'm a loser like you mention, I will forever curse and swear at the people around me just like you trying to pin people down and go on the offensive trying to win and at least maintain a good impression of your current company. I would not have learnt anything If I didn't pick myself up from where I fell down to Losing My $2,880 years back. (The products are still in my cupboard anyway-which serves as a reminder for me to stay alert and warn people about those gimmicks and other scams.)

If a company is really so good, there will not be lots of negative publicity already. You are just refusing to accept the fact of reality that there's already so much negative news which you can't get people to forget!

Point Number 3
If I'm a loser, I would not be here in the MLM threads for so long, and offering to help solve general queries about MLM.

If I'm a loser, I will not be posting Neutral Posting all these while and giving CLEAR EXAMPLES!!

If I didn't learn from my mistake, I will not be who I am today, at least whatever I do NOW, I based it on Facts, Logic, and Evidence (Articles, Newspapers, Audio Files from Radio).

What do you to support your own claims?
Nothing? I suppose?

If you have sufficient knowledge and Evidence to rebut my claims or postings, feel free to do so, but FIRST OF ALL - EVIDENCE!!

Disclaimer: I'm not trying to be arrogant or show off of my tiny bit of success here with little/low replies to my postings. But rather, I acknowledge that there are people out there who are more knowledgeable than me, just that they have more important things to attend to. I'm just trying to share what I know with people, without asking for any form of returns.

I know I've learnt from my lesson, but have you learn anything from joining MLM?

Point Number 4
I didn't Hint people to Meet, I openly Welcome people to meet me.
I like to learn and gather as much experiences as possible.

I'm proud of whatever I know, and if you think I'm here for recruitment, think again. If I have being trying to recruit people whom I have met via this forum, those people whom I have met, would already have come online to post about me and complain about me immediately already. BUT Look, is there anybody who came online to complain about me? To Date: NONE = 0 complaints.

So think before you type.

(From this post onwards, I do expect people to claim that they meet me in person and try to say negative things about me after I post this thread reply, cause there's already somebody in the passed who claims to know Laurence and me, but after a while, it was being checked to proof that the person is the same person from your company (Deduced based on the 1 sided postings) and was eventually Banned.)

So if you think I'm contradicting myself, feel free to list out all my posts back from DAY 1 which shows that I'm complaining without facts. I'll answer to you personally.

Disclaimer: This is not a personally challenge from me to you nor am I showing my arrogance in anyway but rather, this is my confidence that I know what I'm knowing and I accept the responsibilities that comes after when I write this.

I hold myself responsible for whatever I post thus I will only post things which I know. If I post something wrong or misleading, I will admit my mistakes.

Are you accountable for your postings to date?
Apparently not, as all that you have being posting is to mis-lead people and write false accusations without sufficient evidence.

Point Number 5
I am proud to be in the MLM Industry but I'm not so happy with so many negative stigma about MLM and thus I am here just to share whatever I know with people who wants to get a better understanding.

I'm not saying that I'm good, but rather, EVERYONE Is Still Learning; I'm still learning too in fact.

People do make mistakes, but it takes real courage to admit their own mistakes. Thus I enjoy meeting people from all walks of life and from different companies even to learn from each another experiences, no doubt be it a victim who just got cheated, at least I learn from their experiences too, and they learn from mine. It's a win-win situation.

[Note: My Learning Method is Strongly Not Recommended for those Rookies in the MLM/Sales Industry but if anybody is interested to learn together, I welcome anybody with Open Arms to share what I know with you people]

the_fallen SG

if your fren is inside and have gotten back her amount.

if you want to know how to determine if a company is there for real, or gimmick, here to stay right strategy, direction, and if the company is scam or not.

let me know via PM, and i'll speak to you and your friend so that you both can learn and not to commit the same mistake again.

I hope I can help in some way.

kokov SG

Originally posted by the_fallen:

[If you have sufficient knowledge and Evidence to rebut my claims or postings, feel free to do so, but FIRST OF ALL - EVIDENCE!!

[b]Disclaimer: I'm not trying to be arrogant or show off of my tiny bit of success here with little/low replies to my postings. But rather, I acknowledge that there are people out there who are more knowledgeable than me, just that they have more important things to attend to. I'm just trying to share what I know with people, without asking for any form of returns.

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Out of curiosity, can you elaborate on your success? For example, what you have achieved in your MLM career etc..Thanks