DW Group & EastWing Group - My Experience

last SG · 2004-07-13T11:06:23+00:00

Hey man! So many of you hate DW so much. Btw, where is DW's new location? I wanna go down take a look. If possible, i see wat can be done to stop all these P...

singlish04 SG

They are selling all kind of product.. if i'm not wrong they deal with alot of health product.

shoutcast SG

i had a close encounter with their kind before
it all started when i was hanging out with friends @ orchad
then this 2 guys come up to us and ask for a survey

oh since we waiting for our show @ lido , might as well

so after fill up we tot thats the last of them

one week later in march i recieve a call from them , i say i am in army , ord 26 jun 2004

come july , i recieve a call from them again
so i heard that , since i start school in august , might as well go down for their interview see how

i go without any knowledge , except its DW group , a bio medical firm from japan

was wondering if it has any relation to bio polis

so i just go down for an interview lor

its @ 70 anson road , 16th floor

during the interview , i spoke to their "SO" or something then they told me to fill up interview forms , i walked into "Lady warriors"

during interview they ask me what i can do to contribute to company
i say IT , and such
they told me to put down my preference of job and they will notify me if i am selected for a 2nd interview
what i put down was administration / casual labour / IT

then come monday , i was called down for 2nd interview
this time i reached @ 1pm
then they made me wait till 2pm cos they need to interview other people first
then came my turn

i was told i was to be a sales representive
then one of their 'SO' led me to show me a demostration

first she showed me individual directors and respective groups under them , turf I , turf II , lady warriors , and 3 other groups

then she brought me into this room where i am shown the products which they are offering and a machine that shows the increase in the movement of the blood cells when their products is used

the little finger is dabbed with a lotion and then put under the machine
then you can see your blood stream and when the bracelet is worn , there is a slight increase in the speed of flow

this is meant to convince us that their products actually work and that good health we be resulted when and if we use their products

then the 'SO' showed me an old documentry by tv 12 i think. the video is grainy and shows signs of aging

it describes how magnetic thearphy works on atheltes(by increasing their recovery rate) , sick patients (helps them recover), even horses

somewhat i wasn't convinced

i was brought up to their office in lvl 16 then was made to wait as their boss is still talking to another group of people

i waited until 8pm and talked to him 1 on 1

the director apparently is Mr Joey

he gave a firm handshake and sat down and started with a conversation

wah like typical ceo , i had to admit he gives a good first impression

then he asked me why am i not willing to join his company

then i tell him i doubt his products

he showed me various graphs and explain the difference between working with him and working by yourself

he draw a sine curve and cosine curve

the curve that starts with a peak at the bottom ( i forget which liao)
is because you fork out your own money to do your own buisness

the curve that starts from zero and raises to a peak
is because you join his company

he gave me a choice

i chosed the one that started at the bottom

then he want on to say why should you start from a negative value when you can start to earn money with me

then he went on to say , work with me , i will guide you and nuture you . i noe you are talented and have a good vision , i will groom you and make sure u succeed in life.

er sounds a bit scary imo cos he dunno me and willing to say that

then i asked him , whats his vision for this company

he looked stunt , then regain his composure and say

well i wish to be listed in 3 years time

then we all will be millionairs when that happens

then i ask him what are you going to do with all the money you raised that way

cos i agar noe that people will only buy your shares if your company can grow and they can get dividends back

but his company doesn't seem to be able to do that

nonetheless he went on to say something about each of the top directors would take out one million and build a club where only those with sports cars/ high end cars can go

then pretty models and handsome hunks will be able to get in free of charge

then i say " i am convinced , please let me work for you now"

then he say ok , and told me to sign something that looks like a contract

at that point , i say i will come back tomorrow to start working , then i sign

i never went back

devoid05 SG

he draw a sine curve and cosine curve

the curve that starts with a peak at the bottom ( i forget which liao)
is because you fork out your own money to do your own buisness

the curve that starts from zero and raises to a peak
is because you join his company

he gave me a choice

i chosed the one that started at the bottom

then he want on to say why should you start from a negative value when you can start to earn money with me

then he went on to say , work with me , i will guide you and nuture you . i noe you are talented and have a good vision , i will groom you and make sure u succeed in life.

er sounds a bit scary imo cos he dunno me and willing to say tha

haha... wad an enriching experience.
sine curve - you start from the zero (zero displacement), you end up at the same place where you first started (zero displacement after 1 cycle).

abt him commenting that you're talented and a visionary, (esp when he knows nuts abt u), i can only say that a little sincerity is a good thing, too much of it is absolutely fatal

shoutcast SG

haha

true
but i did discuss his business model , saying his intraprenurship " the splitting of companies into multiple groups " isn't a bad idea , 3M is doing the same thing with great success

his method of distribution isn't that bad.

but in the end , i did not believe in the product Confused

cos when u sell them its to only your own network of friends and family not to outsiders and the price is awfully highly marked up

lhx_kaze SG

Hi guys,

If u have read my first post over here, I am sure u know of the bad experience that I have been through... Hi shoutcast, if I am not wrong, they must have told u, the director of LAdy Warriors is a 21 year old female, only a ITE graduate and earning $10 + K a month rite? and they say she has earned herself a baby mercs or sth from the company.

Get this right, that was what they told me last year and up till now, this lady director still hasnt drove her "baby mercs" over... They are just trying to mark up the amount of money they earn.. If they are really earning $10+ K per month, their annual income would be ard $120K a year, meaning they are eligible to apply for a PLATINUM card. A plat card, not a GOLD card. U can ask them to show u, I doubt anyone of them has it...

and yes, one thing about them is that they drive luxury cars, if I am not wrong, in the garage near New LEaf cafeteria, there is a blue jaguar, several mercs of the same silver design and a Fair LAdy right?? It is just for a show... They have to do this so that they can CONVINCE people how successful they were, so that people will join this.

IMPORTANT: They will become rich ONLY AFTER u have joined them, not before that. Therefore, they need to fork out money to create a image, a branding. After they have convinced u, they make the money and its your turn to lie to others about how successful u were.

I only earned $100 plus during my 3 months there. So, I really hope people out there especially those finishing A or O Levels not to get cheated by them.. They aim for this people whom they think are gullible and easy to convince..

One more thing, they like to do their survey at Orchard MRT, outside Heerens and many parts of Orchard. If they give u a "JOB MARKET SURVEY" and ask u to do, just give a false number. THe actual aim of the survey is to get the telephone numbers of the surveyees aka the prey. During the survey, they will try to engage in a conversation with u so that u can be comfortable with them. After that, they will try all means to convince u to go down to the company. And MOST IMPORTANTLY, over the phone, they will tell u " We have many vacancies, such as ADMIN, telemarketing, data entry blah blah blah...

GET THIS CLEAR, there is NO ADMIN job at all.. Only SALES positions... and
its not just sales...

They cheat ur money after u placed the order by not delivering the goods and eventually not giving u ur goods..

devoid05 SG

that's plain cheating and lying! i wonder how these pple manage to sleep at night aft duping soo many pple. apparently magnetic therapy does work wonders for em'.

lhx_kaze SG

www.dwbio.com

This is DW Group's website, their structure seems to have become bigger, which is a bad news... Cos now their Joint Ventures have increased, which means that they are going all out to recruit people into this money-making scam.

You guys should be able to see that lady director with her "supposed" Mercs in the pics, but we never know if she really owned it. The whole company is simply.......

Nameless SG

Ya, i agree.. i was there for abt 6 months and i only earn hundred plus..

they will say that pple like us did not strive hard to do the sales, all CRAP!! Her name is Miss Christin.. and her Lady Warriors are all AH LIANS..

Those who believe they can earn big bucks are really idiots.. OH MY GOD..

To be continued

Jason SG

[quote]Originally posted by shoutcast:
[b]haha

PatrickLTH SG

Originally posted by shoutcast:

[b]when u sell them its to only your own network of friends and family not to outsiders and the price is awfully highly marked up[/b][/b]

I do note what shoutcast said - as a member of MLM, you are expected to sell to your own network of friends and family members, and not to outsiders.

So if you expect to make millions of dollars, you are expected to make it through your friends and family members, and their friends and family members......

Hence it is very critical that once you are a MLM member, you must recruit as many as possible, your friends and family members to become MLM members (for whatever reason/s). These new members become the first layer of "consumers", where you get the first layer of commission of whatever they consum or "sell".

devoid05 SG

hmmss... what abt astral mag and venture era? anyone hv any idea abt the relationship between these two companies... what's the relationship between DW, AMH and VE?? what's the credibilty like? is it sound?

lhx_kaze SG

From what I know, I dont think there is any link between Astral Mag and Venture Era, most prob they are just 2 companies marketing a similar product. But the few directors of DW Group were originally from Asayo. Maybe they had a dispute or they realized that the money-making scam was good, thats why they started out their own DW Group. EastWing Group is led by the director of KCG Holdings, and KCG Holdings is out from DW Group because they HAD a dispute.

But overall, no link between DW, Astra Mag and VE.. Feel free to correct me if there are any mistakes.. Thks! Razz

devoid05 SG

thanks fer the enriching piece of info...

is astral mag credible? what abt venture era? what's the compensation plans like? what are the money-making chances in these companies? (izzt almost zero or an absolute zero percent)

my fren was thinking of joining either one of these companies... he seems so convinced and so keen... so any wise nuts possessing any reliable piece of information regarding these companies, care to share more (e boons and banes) on them? i jux dun want my fren to get cheated by such scammers, that is if they happen to be one, that's all/

I love BMW SG

whats the use of telling you more info when you already thinking that networking is a scam and networking companies are scammer.

go home boy.

devoid05 SG

i said that mlm capitalizes on relationships... and many of them are scammers
i didn't generalize by saying all of them are scammers
capitalizing on relationship doesn't mean they are scammers...

it's precisely cos it involves capitalizing on relationships that pple like you can become successful... (or are you really successful???)...

you don't have what it takes to become successful... bt you became successful (if you really r bt i doubt it) after capitalizing on relationships...

devoid05 SG

one characteristic of a sucessful person is to stop doing childish things such as flaming.. yeah and i do hope that you will save some dignity for yourself... and the first step is to stop replying to every of my posts by flaming..

even if you do not happen to have any dignity....don't "poison" the industry by flaming... it only goes to show that mlmers resort nt to persuasion but to flaming... the reputation of the industry is already bad enuff,.. and you are nt doing anything to salvage the situation either...

NW_God SG

Heard that DW and AMH is merging or co-partnership , call newmag ?? DW alway use AMH office for their seminar. sound like DW going to give up their Apex tower and shift to carpenter street ?? i thought DW alway say that they want to open 50 outlet in apex tower using their so call francise system Laughing

by the way , i never heard b4 that francise company all squeeze into one area ( Apex Tower ) eg.. All Shell Petrol or Macdonalds outlet total 50 outlet all open at takashimaya .. sound weird right Question Very Happy

How to earn $$$ ...??? when all squeeze together..

Better think twice b4 u join ?

lhx_kaze SG

Originally posted by nw_god:
Better think twice b4 u join ?

Right on the bull's eye!

magnetic_seller SG

Dear CEO,

Please send me a message if interested.

I love BMW SG

the new partnership is called newmag? i heard is either called astral warrior or dolphin mag ???

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