Down with MLM

MightyFlameboy SG

Maybe there's nth wrong wif MLM as a business system by itself. But fer sure, there's a SERIOUS prb regarding how Singaporean MLMers carry out their sales and recruitment, their philopsophy of it (Yay, I can finally haf a job tt dun req. me to slog so hard, I still can further my studies while doing tis business. Oh btw, would u like to join me/buy tis product? Smile ), and their motives in doing so. (Yay, BMW by 26 yrs old, yay, SDM by 26 yrs old, I'm a totally big fu|ck, man!)

Perhaps, those foreign MLM companies do well, maybe cos' they noe abt business betta, better business acumen overall, take drastic measures to prove the viability of their products? But the reverse can be said fer SG. MLM.will.never.be.huge.in.SG. Period. Why? Cos' of the underhand tactics tt MLMers use. Dishonesty, lies, false promises, betrayal, greed, self-profit. All of these are alrdy synonmous wif MLMers, and it takes very huge effort to overhaul the image of MLM in Singapore.

First up, those phoney recruitment calls frm VE. It takes one guy wif intense hate fer MLM and lots of time, to actually record the phone convo, and sue them and bring it up to court. Most of us are indifferent and unwilling to blow up matters. (Aiya kena con to listen 2 hrs of crap, kena psycho to do tis sh!t somemore. Aiya, suah lor, nxt time be more careful) I believe tis is the mentality of most of us here. If we're more proactive, u'll see the companies folding one by one in a rapid measure.

How abt those stupid 'frenz' tt we wish to forget foreva, who invited us fer a meal, to 'catch up wif old times'? Dishonesty and betrayal at their epitome in such situations. Who'll still want such dishonest frenz, much less be their business partner? I've received emails frm angmos frm overseas, asking me if I'm interested in doing business and regular MLM stuff. At least they're HONEST. Maybe tt's y they're successful. Honesty is a very integral part of business.

In short, u MLMers shld really wake up ur bloody ideas, and start dealing honestly like regular businessman. The way u guys manipulate our thinking (by spamming us wif business plans and MLM brainwashed talk), our trust (oh those stupid frenz frm the past who suddenly 'renewed' their interested in u), our expectations (fu|ck those phoney job offers. I swear to sue the nxt one who tries to trick me into MLM by offering an 'admin' job), is very unacceptable. So, wise up, and actually do some research on why it's so successful in other countries, but not yet in SG, instead of fantasizing of ur dumb BMW and 5 Fig salary day and night.

laurence82 SG

To me, if a system cannot deal with human behaviours, then the system fail, no matter how many times you can say system is good but humans are at fault. We all can go theoretical and being academic whole day, but if it fails, its of no use to us in reality. And we all should be aim to be realistic

And i agree with mightyflameboy's last point, that though the ideals of MLM is that it suspercede and is supposed to take over as the so called next generation marketing, business or whatever terms they choose to call it, it hampered by rampants frauds, hardselling and lowest level of professionalim

The members turned it into a inward looking self contained business industry very cut off from reality, the reality of consumers behaviour and corporate professionalism.

the_fallen SG

I have another opinion about the highlighted phase.

1) Everyone actually can do Business, but the deciding factor of whether it Succeed or Fail muchly depends on the knowledge, experience, stratergy and how it is being put into application, if they are any uniqueness and strong faith + Direction. (a mixture of what I learnt and also from Think and Grow Rich)

Simply said; As long as they can deliver, than it's a good business, but at the end of the day, the business that makes a customer leave with a smile is a successful business.

2) Drastic Measures to prove their vability of products - it's a VERY NORMAL SALES PROCEDURE in fact. If you want to win and succeed in a business, you have to sell, and get the customers to come back for more.

How to attract customers, when you know the strengths and weaknesses of various products in line of your own product category, than sell it.

Me too products shows a weakness in leaders running the company as they are just copycats, copycats often result in Lose-Lose situation whereby nobody wins, thus all fighting against one another and profit goes Red thus Closes.

In a NutShell:

Why some people perceive Foriegn Companies as 'better' is because when they enter the market, they at least will do Research and Ground Work which boils down to Professionalism, Merticulous, Their Motive of setting up a company (Highly Advanced Knowledge, not for the normal hoppers in any business)

To look for a good company with long term vision, you need to do a lot of research and look at a lot of factors (Observation skills is a MUST!!)

Anyone who's keen can feel free to ask me, but again, I will only help people who help themselves. I like to answer questions, so feel free to ask as much questions via PM and I'll only reply to questions which related.

MightyFlameboy SG

Ur English sentence structure and grammar usage are rather weird. I dunno if u're adding on to my pts, or rebutting them. But anyhow...

1) 'A good business leaves the customer happy'. Well said! But I tink MLMers piss more ppl off than those they convince. This forum is a very good physical testimony to that I've claimed to be. True, everyone can do business. Why MLM is not tt big in SG is cos' of wad u mentioned, lack of professionalism.

SG MLM companies are too focused on recruitment, rather than consumers' interests. Those 16 - 18 yr old kiddos without receiving adequate training, are expected to go out into the marketplace to sell the products. It's laughable how the VE guy tried to explain the products' viability in proper English, but out of his mouth came Hokkien Bengish 'Engrish'.

Another gd pt by u, 'success depends on the direction of the company'. As for local MLM companies, I tink the direction is 'getting a BMW by 26 yrs old'. I noticed how most MLMers harp on their personal benefits 90% of the time, and only 10% of the time is dedicated to explain their products, and only when u show vulnerability tt they decide to preach to u abt how gd the products are, to try clinch a deal/recruitment. Is that gd business? *shrugs*

2) My definition of 'drastic measures' is not how local MLMers do their business. "This thing is gd, sure work one! See, it's certified by wadever fu|ck ministry! U dun try, u regret ah!" Wad I was referring to, is tt foreign MLMers may be more willing to try their products out BY THEMSELVES first, using themselves as guinea pigs, to prove to the community tt they're convinced tt they're selling a trustworthy product. Ppl would see their conviction, and would be more open-minded to give the products a try.

Local MLMers are juz given stupid theory talks abt how gd the products are, and after seeing a few magazine articles and certificates, they totally buy into the stories of those managers. Do they actually try the products to determine if they're in the right honourable company? Most of the time, when they sell the products to their frenz n family, it's usually wif a profit n career motive in mind, rather than genuine concern fer their well-being, esp. if the products are health-related.

In a nutshell, local MLM companies must ditch the fantasies of getting rich by themselves, and start focusing on the consumers' benefits. Once they wake up to this reality, it'll make them use better business tactics and haf better business ethics, in turn gaining the consumers' trust, and riches will come naturally. Nuff' said.

Oh btw, which MLM company are u frm? Smile

Ristar SG

... and most of the kids who are in MLM use flawed examples… which is a total turn off.

the_fallen SG

refer to my replies with the arrow sign and words in blue color

If you like to learn how to be a good shopper, u can PM me and we can meet up to discuss in general sales and mlm. Rest assure that i will not sell my company cause I'm just here to help provide advice and tips. not for recruitment into my company.

Last but not least, thank you for your compliments.

laurence82 SG

plus flawed analogy

using very simple logic and examples to describe something that is not as easy or describe part of the stories only

for example, when i describe the situation as MLMers who boast has the duty and responsibility to prove his income, his upline income or his company earnings especially when he has the interest in marketing the scheme, wherever he is

if they are caught or could not respond, they use a simple logic of 'would you post your details online'...which when answered, could not answer the issue as a whole

i have always meet these clever ruses, but only works on the stupid

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