Once and For all...Please...Spot the Pattern!

TELESCOPE SG

Ten years ago...A MLM company called NOP...selling figure enhancing underwear, foot massage machines, crystals, even the PDMYP that Long Far is peddling now...THEY DECIDED TO GO INTO A PROJECT! CALLED Áé¹ÈËþ!!! basically selling NICHES at a columbarium. You know how they market it? like real estate sia! buy more niches for yourself and your family!!! can appreciate in value and sell next time!!! So a lot of 'investors' were invited to buy, 'official launch' at a hotel, celebs, whole song and dance, etc. So many, many people sunk tens of thousands into it. In the end? RUG PULLED OUT FROM UNDER THEM. No such thing. Cannot sell for what was promised. So what happened?

THEY DECIDED TO GO INTO ANOTHER PROJECT! CALLED MAGIC KINGDOM! basically selling a CONCEPT for a country club, basically THE BIGGEST and GRANDEST CLUB IN SINGAPORE, JB and SOME SAY BATAM!!! so you know how they market it? Like a CONDO project, man! beautiful mockup, showroom, everything! So many, many people sunk untold thousands into it again. In the end? RUG PULLED OUT FROM UNDER THEM. No such thing. Company folded. So what happened?

lay low for a while...

So few years ago, ANOTHER COMPANY CAME UP!!! NTI!!! SELLING Aromatherapy! ( Then went into crystals, skin care products, etc etc)

THEY DECIDED TO GO INTO A PROJECT! CALLED EMALL!!! Touted as the next-gen solution to internet and online shopping! Marketed as the "EBAY KILLER" sia! In the end? Just a fart in the wind. Until now this epic 3 years in the making still not operational yet. So how?

THEY DECIDED TO GO INTO A PROJECT! CALLED CHINA DREAM!!! SELLING THE UNDERWEAR IN CHINA!!! Again, many, many investors "invested" in the project, so now how? poof. Again, nothing.

THEY DECIDED TO GO INTO A PROJECT! 2 DIRECTORS of this company ASKED ALL THE MANAGERS THERE TO INVEST!!! 5-10K EACH!!! OPEN A COMPANY IN SHENZHEN!!!! total collected almost 200K. So after one of the directors went to china with the money and spent it drinking, whoring, eating, etc. Anything to show for it? poof. Nothing. So how?

THEY DECIDED TO GO INTO A PROJECT!!! CALLED MORINGTON CRESENT COUNTRY CLUB AKA THE HAUNTED COUNTRY CLUB! asked all the NTI members to fork out money for 'memberships'! In the end? NO MONEY TO DO COMPLETE RENOVATIONS, HAD TO CALL ALL THE 'MANAGERS' to go help clean up the place.

That means, for you kids out there, THOSE MANAGERS WHO PAID FOR THE MEMBERSHIP FOR THE HAUNTED COUNTRY CLUB WERE ASKED TO GO THERE AND WORK FOR FREE PULLING WEEDS AND CLEARING RUBBISH.

WOW!!! HOW EXCLUSIVE!

So 2 months after 'launching', the only habitants in the place now are still, only the resident ghosts. So now how?

THEY DECIDE TO GO INTO A PROJECT!!! CALLED EMCON + SUNSHINE EMPIRE + TAIWAN WIRELESS BROADBAND!!! PROMISING almost 3600% returns on investment!!! WOW, so incredible!

Whats gonna happen next? Has anyone spotted the pattern yet? no? Wait a while longer, its ok.

LETS WAIT FOR THE NEXT EXCITING UPDATE!

fury_28 SG

Have u join any of those projects?

bangkokboy SG

With such a fantastic management team, I am sure all their projects will soar to greater heights! ( To the moon, never to return again… )

livingmlm SG

wow telescope , how u know so many stuff about NOP ?

Heard that alot of top guys in NTI earn alot of money in the emcon project .

why all mlm people alway say that they earn alot of $$ but they didnt .

sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad sad

bangkokboy SG

Maybe they are earning alot, but most of the time they leave out how much they invested to get those ''profits''.

Ferrari Sports SG

I can swear that what telescope has said here is true! It's one 'mega project' after another and in the end who suffer?

Their so-call investor! Just stay tuned and see how this wireless project gonna work!

LegacyMan SG

1. I am not sure about the niche so not comments about it.

2. MK i know about it, but the truth is not for us to know as we all only know the project failed and many investor could not get back the money. But i know alot got back too.

3. Emall has already been started, just that we are not active in it.

4. China Dream yes i know this, but anyway its not selling underwear, its some nutrition product in china.

5. This 2 director thing i comfirm dunno about it, cause it not link up with the company. Anyway how you know one of the director spent all on drinking and etc ? You are the director or he tell u ?

6. This CC i heard about it. Call empire club right ? Not sure about how they manage it, but seems to be a failure for now.

7. Emcom is still not sure yet, since the project is not even close to completion.

The only thing i fear about the emcom project is the recent taiwan earthquake might have affected the construction.

So anything else to shoot?

the Bear SG

greed blinds them.. Smile

they have to be ripped off before they will learn Laughing

LegacyMan SG

Maybe its true like what you say. So far i have not been ripped before.

the Bear SG

so, who have you ripped off? Laughing

in MLM, there's the people who are ripped off and the people who rip people off...

laurence82 SG

Strangely, its not one two failures, its a massive one after another, and there are many who lost money not entirely to themselves.

In the other thread somebody made claims Sunshine Empire stood for 28 years, and its the same length as many well established MLM companies, like Herbalife for example.

But yet Herbalife still stood on, the same programs, the same line of products, which is a testimonial to its management, product strength and marketing plan

For NTI, its time to stop being in denial and face up to its wrongdoings. Only then can the past be cleared and it can go on to embrace new projects without guilt if the management has a tinge of conscience

LegacyMan SG

None too.

Either being ripped or rip others is your thinking. Not everyone in MLM is like this.

LegacyMan SG

Actually should be Sunshine Alliance not Sunshine Empire.

Anyway i also hope that the company will not make the same mistakes over and over again.

laurence82 SG

Name doesnt matter

The company still exist, and i hope we dont have to go into why companies keep changing name or structure

Laughing

What you hope we dont care, it doesnt relate to what I said earlier

LegacyMan SG

Well all these have to be up tp the company to decide, for changing name wise, i think so far none.

Well i dun care whether u guys care too Very Happy Anyway its just my comments.

laurence82 SG

Anyway to repeat what i said before the thread went out of topic

Wink

the_fallen SG

A bit of corrections or maybe just to add on to your list of history of failures of James Phang's Company

i'll highlight the add ons in another colour

1 - Pai Du Mei Yuan Bao (if i didn't spell wrongly)

2 - Lumimi

3 - Foot Massage Machines

4 - Crystals

5- Columbarium/aka Urns for the dead (if you are alert, can see part of this project during his video time at the start of his training courses $25. Usually at Furama Hotel -not sure if he changed hotel yet)

6- Magical Kingdom Investment - signing up lots of investors to invest in Indonesia ($5000 per lot)

7- Credit Cards i've heard this from (NOP agent also)

8 - Skin Care products first followed by

9 - Aroma-therapy

10 - Feng Shui Crystals which is James Phang's Brother's products

11 EM2U aka E Mall To You (Copy e-bay) which ended up as failed project

12 - Empire Group Alliance [Started to have CHINA DREAM & merge his different companies together due to NTI's reputation dropping so EGA was formed with the new logo of the Lion's Head; BUT not all companies are inside EGA - this is when Lumimi comes in and join NTI as another of their products]

13 - Life Time Profit Sharing (LPS) than lay low for a few months

14- Morington Cresent Country Club aka THE Haunted Country Club [which lasted not long - why it closed = management didn't check when the lease will expire, didn't do a lot of ground-work(research) than rent the whole country club. In the end, the owner tells NTI, hey my lease is up, you have to get out!]
And so with that, NTI suffered a HUGE LoSS as well as for those people who invested in the country club project.

15 Wireless Project - 50/50 spilt profits between the developer of the wireless & James Phang [so the amount that investors are paying now, half goes to NTI for paying GP,SP, BP according to ranks]
why I stress 50/50 spilt, because this project was actually launched 2 yrs back. which is when the developer of the wireless back than has got no capital to set up the wireless, so he sign up with a partner, he only gets 30% of profits whereas partner only pumps capital gets 70% so he (developer du lan cannot do anything) while the investor partner guai lan (sit and wait for profits) but this didn't last long so the project failed 2 yrs back.

TELESCOPE SG

Wah, not bad ar, can see you are quite laojiao also. U also left the whole NOP/NTI thing behind already? good for you, bro. congrats. Get out just in time. Very Happy

TELESCOPE SG

Well I wouldnt be suprised if they blame their next failure on this, after all, history has proven that whenever something happen to NOP/NTI project they are somehow NEVER in the wrong and are always not to be blamed.

Failure of PDMYB - They blame other distributors undercut them

Failure of Niche - They blame the company that built the place

Failure of MK - Blame economy and the developer of the country club

Failure of Emall and China Dream - Blame timing and market not right

Failure of their so-called directors - covered up and swept under the rug

Failure of Emcon - ???

So whats next for them?

the_fallen SG

Just a Little Bit to add on.
Basically for those people especially those people who blame this and that, but never blame themselves, than these are the people who are not responsible at all.

From what has failed so far, they have being blamming these factors as well as many other factors.

Why do they (James Phang and his distributors[includes his leaders/networkers] keep blamming this and that, but NEVER EVER look back and reflect on their mistakes?

IF anyone in NTI doesn't believe, just try it and see the results for yourself.
I did it before- I asked the leaders why NOP's Magical Kingdom failed last time, they blame it on bad investment, bad place etc, but didnt blame on the person who started the project-go try it, it's interesting.)

If a person who have did business before will never ever push the blame to others. The business owner will blame himself/herself for not having done the homework (research).

Go grab any BUSINESS BOOK (NONE MLM)- read how they do businesses, regardless of whether they succeed or fail, they will only blame themselves.

MAYBE Emcom will work, maybe not, time will tell.

Advice to those new NTI agents or those who went back to NTI.

If you really want to learn MLM, at least know the basic of business, and learn how to choose a good mlm company, not by listening and sign on the spot.
(ONLY for those interested, i'll willing to teach-just let me know)

A person who doesn't thinks and evaluate the opportunity presented to them isn't smart. So jolly well do some research before you sign in on NTI / other companies OR any Investment Plans / Business Opportunities in future.