Hey guys
muzz really apologise for late reply...damn plane lands me
somewhere in South America..... 
Anyway, for those who wants to know more abt ntiparis, I could only
tell you as much, so could G.H.O.S.T (hullo!) or other guys. The
rest is up to you to decide whether ntiparis is worth doing.
When I was first approached by my friend, he lead me to the old
office on ground floor, sat down and start pounding away by writing
the marketing plan on three pieces of paper.I noted the
following,
1. He wrote out the first plan, which states how much you can first
earn by recruitment. Everyone pays $288, you put them under you or
your downline "Business centre" binary system style, therefore
earning certain amount for each set of number of people you have
balanced under you. I was shocked, and ask him immediately if there
are products involved.He told me yes, products are included.
2. He then wrote a second plan, which involves how much you earn by
sales. This plan you all can see on their website. His reasoning
was that they move recruitment first, then later sales. Sounds like
a good MLM company which wanted to correct faults of other failed
companies? Here are the anomalies I found out
Quote from DSA US on disguised pyramid.
'If the startup cost is substantial, be careful! The start-up fee
in multilevel companies is generally small (usually for a sales kit
sold at or below company cost). These companies want to make it
easy and inexpensive for you to start selling. Pyramid schemes, on
the other hand, make nearly all of their profit on signing up new
recruits. Therefore, the cost to become a distributor is usually
high. CAUTION: PYRAMIDS OFTEN DISGUISE ENTRY FEES AS PART OF THE
PRICE CHARGED FOR REQUIRED PURCHASES OF TRAINING, COMPUTER
SERVICES, PRODUCT INVENTORY, etc. These purchases may not even be
expensive or "required," but there will be considerable pressure to
"take full advantage of the opportunity."
To look like a multilevel marketing company, a pyramid scheme takes
on a line of products and claims to be in the business of selling
them to consumers. However, little or no effort is made to actually
market the products. Instead, money is made in typical pyramid
fashion, from recruiting. New distributors are pushed to purchase
large and costly amounts of inventory when they sign up
For example, you might have to purchase $1,000 of nearly worthless
products in order to become a "distributor." The person who
recruited you receives $500 (a fifty percent commission) and $500
goes to the top (the company, in this case). Notice the similarity
to the simple pyramid scheme
a. I have been to many legal companies, either under DSAS or MNCs.
No distributor has ever earn from their downline at the first
instance, which is by earning a commission by recruitment, and from
the large amount of monies a new guy puts in. Most companies
registration fees goes toward processing of membership only. Plus
they are usually small, like two figure sum only.
b. My friend told me products are included within the entry fees,
while other distributor I know told me the products are free with
the entry fees. Sounds like normal MLM companies with sales
products? No. MLM companies profits derived largely from revenue of
sales of products. Experienced MLMers will tell you that the
companies would have need its distributors to have confidence with
the products to enable a sales force. But now you are absorbing
products without knowing whether its good. If its part of entry
fee, the company is telling you to absorb products without
questions. And since by right start up fees should be small, is
large amount of the $288 goes towards the products which you have
no knowledge of?
If the products are free, then isnt the recruitment plan
pyramid-like?
Guys, if you present this plan in front of CAD officers, good luck!
Just for this portion, they could charge you with participating in
pyramid. Look at S888.com, where people earns by recruitment
commissions.
c. The first plan was never shown on their website. I wonder why?
Unlike other companies, some or all of the agents go around
presenting their binary plan of pieces of paper, proclaiming binary
to be the best plan around, and always emphasising on business and
recruitment. Whereas other companies would have already some form
of printed media to show people their marketing plan.. So that it
wasnt easy for people to catch them for evidence since they can
throw the paper away? I was never shown the products nor asked to
buy. This is why G.H.O.S.T says they were very focused on
recruitment. Very.
Quote again
Are the company's products sold to consumers?
IF THE ANSWER IS NO (OR NOT MANY), STAY AWAY! This is a key
element. Multilevel marketing (like other methods of retailing)
depends on selling to consumers and establishing a market. This
requires quality products, competitively priced. Pyramid schemes,
on the other hand, are not concerned with sales to end users of the
product. Profits are made on volume sales to new recruits, who buy
the products, not because they are useful or attractively priced,
but because they must buy them to participate. Inventory purchases
should never be more than you can realistically expect to sell or
use yourself
d. The second plan shown how much you earn by sales. Initially, I
thought after they finish building their network (recruitment) they
would focus on sales. This is where a lot of strange things
happen.
One of my friends has been working for quite some time, and is
always recruiting people. He has never ask me to buy, and staunchly
refuse to sell after other people approach him. Timandra and I have
discussed this. She was puzzled as to why their agents could be
even refuse to sell. Another contact told me another story, where
they are two groups of people. Either you are recruiting all the
time, or you are selling. ???
e. Where do the products go? Every month the agents pump in $50 to
purchase products for 'own consumption' or resales. Two
things:
the company is telling you to pump in $50 or get out of the
company. If you have large network under you, if everyone pump in
$50, you can earn quite a lot. Second, why the hell you need to
make the effort to resell those products if you just need to pump
in $50 to earn those hundred or thousands of dollars under you?
Just keep them at home lah. In the end you absorbing products and
accumulating them at home. This is known as maintenance requirement
for membership and to earn the money from the network under
you.
Quote again
Most disguised pyramids, however, are not this easy to unmask.
Pyramid schemes often choose products which are cheap to produce
but which have no established market value, such as new miracle
products, exotic cures, etc. This makes it difficult to tell
whether there is a real consumer market for the products
f. So far, are the products good? I open the topic to the floor. I
was never asked to buy even though I have contacts in ntiparis. I
checked up the website, hardly any info on products. They even have
a statement on how nowadays health product is important in light of
SARS. Aromatheraphy to cure SARS?
Plus if you examine the products, they are a) exotic b) unknown
brand and unchecked source of products c) sometimes I wonder where
the hell are the sales kits of these products I asked my friend for
d) aromatheraphy are not largely for the mass consumer market, only
select people who has the money to spend
I have covered the recruitment style and sales? of the products of
the company. Watch out for more feature I have found to be fishy in
this company
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