New MLM company-M.I.T

last SG · 2003-11-29T10:20:15+00:00

and not only that, got n number of topics

Alex Wong SG

the product not bad.. got friends using it but then… they said they found something similar but selling at a very much lower price in one of the retail shop at wisma…

heaVen_buBBles SG

I understand from the people there that the Oxy8 product has oxygen injected in it to improve skin conditions... They say it's made of oxygen and vegetable extracts... But when I questioned further, they couldn't answer me the lab test reports and what kind of technology they use to produce Oxy8... I believe the product is not safe to use as they do not have any lab reports to support it... If you go down to Bugis Junction, you will see a push cart selling aroma bottles and they do have NTI's bottle too... The price is definitely less than $288... Wink

laurence82 SG

When come to products, I dont usually question the effectiveness, coz i donch know. hehe

But beside the overpricing part, how about the products safety? I remember there was a ST article on the HSA review its safe checks on health and skin care products.

i went down to few companies, and they showed me HSA certification showing their products are safe, best also if they add on Good Manufacturing Practice Cert. The HSA certification got numbers, so one can check with HSA.

Recently, HSA is reviewing health and skincare stuff, they even mention they will check companies like Nuskin , meaning Nuskin products are now certified ok. So is ntiparis certified HSA ok with the products?

Btw, not strange to find even the exact same brand of aromatheraphy products on market at much cheaper price. Saw Lampe Berger on display few weeks ago. Havent check out Bel Air yet.

monkeywarriors SG

Bel Air aroma diffusers for sale!! One for $50 only!! Stockist had enough of them (bough originally at over $500), so selling cheap cheap!!

PM me for details Wink

heaVen_buBBles SG

From what I've checked, HSA is more for canned food and it's more important to have the singpore's PSB report for medical, cosmetics and aroma products.

Btw, I was just shocked to see the NTI's aroma diffusers selling there and at a cheap rate... I'm also interested in Belair's products so please let me know if there's anything you found out.. thanks...

laurence82 SG

Hmm, *rubs chin*

HSA claim to do checks on health care and skincare stuff, and PSB more on quality checks, even on stuff like electrical items and I think on manufacturing practices, and even on food poisoning cases.

Well, might as well have those two certifications, be more kiasu a bit.

Click here.

PSB Singapore

HSA Singapore

Oh yah, I have a friend in Belair, but he is studying overseas, you can check out their website, and there is a topic around here in Kopitiam.

heaVen_buBBles SG

Their website has quite limited information and the topic you mentioned I've read too...

Anyway, regarding the HSA and PSB thingy was heard from a friend and tot of sharing it... It's nice to have you pointing the mistakes too... Surprised

Thanks

SongBoz SG

Hello.. It is stated in the cover that it is used in New York, Paris and another place, which I have forgotten.. Anyway, it's just a cover.. The package include 4 stuff.. The cleanser, Toner, Lightening UV shield and Lightening Oxygen Emulson.. I am using it now.. I would say, its quite ok.. Just that I am not sure about the origin and dont know whether if it's overpriced.. Please advice.. Thank..

Definitely it is OVERPRICED! i get the following items at least 6 times more with tat kind of price.!

1 different skin type has different skin condition, what is good to u maynot be good to someone else. it will be questionable if they package them into a price.

2. these items cant be that expensive based on my experience, even companies selling premium product, would not sell so expensive for such products. think again it is 4 for $288!

3. Usually skin care products. there might be a lot of product demonstration or training for its distributors on wat usage and some other procedures of apply it on ur skin.

4. From what i learnt, oxygen is supplemental to the skin. you will feel cooling when apply it. What the skin really need is water (H20)

it will be easier for u to ask me more questions, if u have anything..

hjxfabio SG

mmm... I guess those products are really overpriced.. Too bad, I have bought it, and have to finish it so as not to waste them.. On your no. 3 point, I think that is what I feel that is lacking in NTI.. They just talked to me about the product and of course plans, without actually demonstrating to me about it.. Sigh.. I realized it too late..

Anyway, I also noticed that on the bottles, they only display the name of the products and some description.. Cos I have noticed that in some other products, like dermalogica skin care products, there are a lot of information available, like where it is made from, the serial no., some have barcodes.. I would like to know, are these information not neccessary to appear in every product, or MLM products dont require these details? Hope you can advice me on that.. Thanks a lot.. Smile

the brain SG

As far as i know, HSA does not endorse or certify any products, based on my check wif them:

2 We wish to reiterate that if you are considering a business venture with any direct/multi-level marketing company, you will be taking on the responsibilities of a dealer and will be liable for the safety and quality of the products you are dealing with. Dealers of are required to comply with the set of guidelines for the sale and supply of health supplements set out by the HSA.Please be informed that the HSA does not approve nor endorse any products.

3 We are pleased to forward to you our guidelines for your reference. (See attached file: HS Guidelines-V10 (Jan04).pdf)

4 Consumers and other parties are also required to exercise personal judgement and discretion in the choice of these products. If they are in doubt, they are advised to consult professionals such as family doctors, community pharmacists, qualified nutritionists and in particular, their supplier for clarification on specific products and information relating to these products.

5 Thank you.

How then did the certification by HSA come about. Kindly pls enlighten me.

SongBoz SG

it is important to list down all the product specifications in the product itself.

If the product is not labelled with the specific ingredients, we can truely say that the product has not gone through the Ministry of Health for examination or product testing. becos certain ingredients are definitely banned in singapore...

ANy product must need a ingredients specifications in ORDER TO SELL.. tat all i can say!

hjxfabio SG

Regarding the O2xy8 product which they are selling, they do specify the ingredients in another piece of card and in another booklet which talked about the product.. But there is not information as to where it is made and the address of this O2xy8 company... I can only see this "Imported & Exclusively Distributed by Niutrend International Pte Ltd" on the piece of card..

As for the Essential Oil, I dont see any ingredients at all.. And just like above, only the brand name without any other information..

And regarding this, is it possible that I check with any authorized department in the govt to see if the 2 products are actually legalized?? mmm... Any suggestions as to how I can go about doing it?

Thanks a lot a lot for the information.. Smile

laurence82 SG

Hmm, i am confused.

Whereas the brain says HSA doesnt endorse (actually i was thinking along the line of approval), there must be a testing and approving authority for health and skincare products coming into Sg, like AVA test agriculture produce and Spring SIngapore test electrical stuff. HSA (according to website) do test health and medicinal products,

In order for these approved products to be sold in Singapore, shouldnt they have certification of approval for sale, or at least HSA(or whichever approving authority) keeps a list of approved products for reference with public, without issuing certifications? For me, I will go dig it up regarding the certifications I seen.Either they are certifications or they are letters of correspondence,

stormax SG

Hi, I really think you have mistaken.

All consumption products DO NOT need to be approved or even issue certification to be on sales. For electrical appliances, it is a must to be sent for safety testing. As for drug, cosmectis, food, dried food,etc,etc, there are no law that it is a must to be sent for testing. There are millions of products in local market and new products up to thousands are in the market monthly.
The only law that stated for consumption is to state the ingredients. Just like Slim 10, is it alright to sell, however it's the responsible for the dealers if anything goes wrong. As for consumers, it is your duty that you are aware of what you are consuming/ using.

What HSA does is to do QC for products without the dealers/ agents knowing. They will do testing when many complains on a particular product are received or when they suspect that there are banned substances in the products.

HSA will base on the current list of banned substances. Yet if the products were tested before and then the contents changes or HSA has newly banned one of ingredients in the products, it is not requested to submit for testing again unless the products got complained or suspected of banned substances.

SPRING Singapore do not only test electrical appliances. They represent Singapore government to do testing on anything to check the effectiveness, safety, percentage, environmental friendly of contents. This is to ensure that all products tested are under international standard. Spring test is one of the most recognised in the whole world for its extremely strict, reliable and high standard testing, no undertable problems.

As long as a company has Spring lab test reports, it's widely recognised. However many and really many products do not dare to be sent for testing. In addition,many companies will state that due to the small scale of the company, they do not have the money to do testing. If a good company no matter how big or small scale, they will send for SPRING testings no matter how much they have to pay as they do not exchange money and conscious to consumer's health, safety and life.

dcx SG

hMz….near to Lau Pa Sat? Then i noe which company liaoz….used to be in that company…

SongBoz SG

a good and honest company will eventually list down all the ingredients of its products. Skin care products is a sensitive products and therefore it will be ideal for them to list down everything. Some people have allergies to some chemical or herbs being used.

If the products or the company doesnt emphasize on such specifications, it might be fishy..!!

tibirg SG

the ingredients used are stated...just that it is not on the bottles but on a piece of paper in the bag provided, as well as in the catalogue thingy.
effective or not? yeah, like some of u mentioned, it depends on the individual's skin type.
and not to flame this company, in my opinion, if u really want good skincare products, they should be recommended by dermatologists who knows ur skin well instead of u buying products off the shelves.

SongBoz SG

it will be best that u can list down all the ingredients mention above. even though i am a marketing student, i think can still abt to answer ur doubts of the product itself, with the rich knowledge about medical herbals i have.

On top of that, the reason for why they didnt strongly emphasize on their products, is tat they wanna use the strategy of MONEY. to blind ur concious mind. therefore, when seeing $$$, u will eventually falls on to their psychological trap.. as simple as that..
You are not the only one being deceived.. my suggestions is that you better stay away from the company. NTI is truely not a good company to stay or work for. Try companies that are more transparent!

SongBoz SG

i understand ur concern. i learnt from my mentor, who is a doctor. He mentioned that behind every products should stated wat are composition of all ingredients. by writing on another piece of paper, cannot prove that particular products DOES HAVE these specifications written down! They are smart to make that move, and they will eventually get away easily. The booklets being given should involved all the standard procedures in apply it (Skin care products) and not specifications on ingredients. So gentlemen, look out for these things.. whether the government check or nt is another matter.
One thing i know for sure is that, the company still can be able to import goods that cant be sold in Singapore. therefore, it is very hard to hunt down the SOURCE where they came from.

hjxfabio SG

Here is what that is written on the separate card.. Hope can get some advice..

a) Deep Cleansing Gel: Aqua, Witch Hazel Extract, Camomile Extract, Licorice Extract, Rosemary Extract, Aloe Vera Gel, Hydrolysed Wheat Protein, Sodium PCA, Tocopherol Acetate, Ginseng, Glycerin, Paraben..

b) Gentle Tonifying Lotion: Aqua, Witch Hazel Extract, Camomile Extract, Calendula Extract, Aloe Vera Gel, Allantoin, Sorbitol, Glycerin, Sodium Lactate, Lactic Acid, Imidazolidinyl Urea, Methyl Paraben.

c) Lightening UV Shield SPF 18: Aqua, Cucumber Extract, Aloe Vera Extract, Shikon Extract, Ivy Extract, Jojoba Oil, Squalane, Lecithin, Tocopheryl Acetate, Sodium Hyaluronate, Glycerin, Carbomer, Butylene Glycon, Kaolin, Titanium Dioxide, Iron Oxide, Zinc Oxide, Mica, Methyl Paraben Propyl Paraben.

d) Lightening Oxygen Emulsion: Aqua, Oxygen 18%, Glycerin, Tocopheryl Acetate, Polysorbate 60, Ascorbyl Palmitate, Licorice Extract, Salicycilc Acid, Cetly Alcohol, Tetrasodium EDTA, Petrolatum, Glyceryl Stearate, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride.

Sorry to all those offended with what I posted.. What do you think of this?? Cos got a lot of things inside I never heard before one..

Thanks.. Smile

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