Herbalife

AyaMi SG

have u ever wonder why u keep going to the toilet?

AyaMi SG

huh?

AyaMi SG

hey if u want to know about them u can ask me...i am a distribuitor and the websites that laurence82 posted i already refered to the Head office in L.A so i am waiting for their reply now.

laurence82 SG

Hey guys
dont go flaming Herbalife the way we have done to Astral Mag and other companies. I hope to make this forum a peaceful discussion. Very Happy

Ok, ok.Few weeks ago, I approached a nutritionist whose slimming centre is in Changi Road.She has also appeared on newspaper before. I asked her about Herbalife since I have joined it. She talked about Herbalife products wise, and here a few pointers for you guys to think over.

!. Firstly, for a product to sell well, it must be free of blemish, like lawsuits, mishaps and stuff. I did came across few websites, which were on lawsuits on Herbalife before. Now guys, I must ask for your pardon. I lost track of that websites, but if you diligently type Herbalife on yahoo, you will come across these websites.

2. Herbalife is safe, since it has come through Health and Science Authority Singapore, but as to its effectiveness and long term safety, best if you do look through few articles such as the ones I posted. Such as the one that says and I quote " that Formula 2 is nothing more than high doses of multivitamins" .Well this was given to me by the nutritionist.

3. This is the best kick. It came from my mother. She ask me why Formula 3 contains Danggui (Cordiceps) and why am I taking it. She says cordeceps are for women, for loss of blood during pregnancy and menstruation. It is also specially for women because they have poorer composition than man. Well if Herbalife really follow Chinese medicine as they told me so, then you should ask your mother or people well versed on cordeceps or Chinese medicine for their opinions.

4. The articles never mention drugs. If you look carefully at the articles, they were reffering to certain herbs and stuff. Serious, I dont think Herbalife really dare to put drugs inside.

5.If you guys need more info, I can ask the nutritionist for more references. Well, I believe as she is an expert on this area, she should know. She also did mentioned Herbalife being worst 10 nutrition company in a ranking of 700 nutrition companies once.

6.If you guys want to talk about Herbalife marketing plan, training and stuff, I am reluctant to discuss because of what happen to other companies. But truthfully there are other ways to find out. One is through working in Herbalife and find out for yourself, or discuss with other World Team Leaders and Supervisors. I can link you guys to the nutritionist about this. I can only advise so far as I can because, for those senior forumers, you guys know this discussion is 'mei wan mei liao'

Thats about it. Anyway, I am out of Herbalife, and I wish those guys inside and outside the best of luck. Haha, I mean seriously.

PS - Those also interested, please find out what is Very Low Calorie Diet VLCD and Moderately Low Calorie Diet MLCD. Should help you guys! Cheers.

Goodeal SG

Hi Ayami, pls keep us inform of the outcome from the head office.
I am curious to know what they will say.

AyaMi SG

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okie i will but must hv some time though as the reply from them might not reach me so quickly,
thanks

Goodeal SG

No problem Mr. Green
as long as they reply, pls keep us updated.
for i believe such a big company sharing such a big market is common to have legal suits.
but the judge last decision is very important.
it will affect the company image.
btw, according to those suits, are they over yet or still listening?
if over than anyone know of the result?
if better still can someone let us know what are the suits about?
the marketing or the products?

laurence82 SG

Hi guys,
urm I made some mistakes in my earlier posting. If you want to look at the lawsuits, look at the articles in my 3rd link. This is the link to rickross.com, and the institute is Ross Institute. Guys familiar with USA should be familiar with this institute. It also contains other info on Herbalife and Mark Hughes himself. Well, I dont think such a famous institute would make defamatory remarks on Herbalife. Plus it has excerpts from court reading and stuff. Btw, the lawsuits I think is already over.

As for the remarks that Herbalife wouldnt dare to put drugs in its products, the Purdue University (again another famous public institution) compile info from the National Council for Responsible Health Information for the Slim Chance Awards.This is in my first link. I think it is an award given for lousy products on the market. It mentioned ephedrine-laced diet pills like Herbalife. Can I ask something? What the heck is ephedrine? Me no expert on food science.

Second link on the Herbalife products and biz refers to an article by Wemos Foundation, Netherland. Urm guys, someone also can explain what is the Wemos Foundation. Think it is also an important institution too.

Well the lawsuits were on the impropriety on the part of the company. Well, I believe if you must convince the general public on the goodness of Herbalife products and biz, they have the power of internet on hand. They can find out all these and in the end, you as a distributor find it hard to explain.

As to why despite of all these problems, Mark Hughes is able to make millions, look again at the articles by Ross Institute.

Here again, happy reading. Cheers

Clio SG

Hi, just want to clarify, isn't cordyceps Dong Chong Chao instead of Danggui?

laurence82 SG

Hmm, i checked this out. Cordyceps is called dong dong chao, while danggui is another herb or plant.

Danggui is for women, ginseng is for men, According to my Herbs Book, it is heaty, so not anyhow taken.

Urm, I think I mix up danggui and cordyceps. Oops. Will find out more abt cordyceps.

Clio SG

Laurence, I don't mean to be rude but can you do some research on this first. Let me give you a few links:

I found this in a online recipe:
Chicken Soup with Cordyceps and Almond
Ingredient
2/3 ounce of chinese cordyceps (Dong Chong Chao)
*11/2 ounce of prepared gingko (Bai Guo)
11/2 ounce of sweet almond (Nan Xin)
1 « ounce of bitter almond (Bei Xin)
1 old chicken
2 slices of ginger
Some salt to taste

http://www.chinese-herbs.org/cordyceps/

laurence82 SG

Yup clio, u are right.Apologies.
Think me made a mistake on this danggui and cordyceps.
Will ask my mom more
But the articles by Ross Institute did mention Herbalife didnt manage to get one product out which is Tang Quei Plus or something.Suspect it is actually danggui pills

Let me quote.

'In 1986, Herbalife settled with the state of California, paying $850,000 in fines and agreeing to remove two products from the market: Tang Quei Plus for menstrual cramps, and K-8, which was said to relieve stress. That very same year -- in a feat that may have been far more miraculous than any of his products -- Hughes successfully took his company public. '

00126666 SG

ephedrine is also known as Ma Huang. It is a stimulant and is banned in Olympics, NFL, etc.

It was used as a slimming ingredient in Xenadrine, etc..I think its banned now.

It makes you really hyper, so u burn lots of energy.

But it can cause heart palpitations, heart problems, liver problems, etc

Mr. Green

AyaMi SG

hhaha.....

AyaMi SG

actually there is no clear lines of which herbs men and women can use. for example u said that ginseng is for men but it is not really so.it can also be for women but taken in moderate amount and dosage plus the amount of times u taking it in a month or a few months.
people who hv a 'heaty' body generally do not take ginseng as much and people who have a 'cold' body is not necessery meant for this herb too. so other than looking at the sexes of the human i think chinese herbs aim to look at the human body too in another perspective. so i think the way u look at things is too superficial and u only look on the surface of things.
if u wonder why i know things about chinese herbs and before u omment on this, for ur information my mentor is a chinese physician so i know a little but not much.
thanks

the Bear SG

ginseng...

thought there was a difference between "ren sheng" and "yang sheng"?

Clio SG

No worries, Laurence.. But I'm just curious, if Herbalife is as bad as it sounds, how is it possible that they can survive for 23 years?

AyaMi SG

actually there was an extravanganza eariler this oct and in this worldwide meeting they explain things about the products and why the company was able to survive for so many years.
i wonder if anyone heard of it?

laurence82 SG

Well, go read the articles I posted. I think one or two of them addressed this 'phenomenon'.

Goodeal SG

care to share?

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