oh...electra, your 2nd example sound like a MLM company.
But one thing good about them is you learn how to say "NO", well
isnt it?
so next time, you meet up with same type of people or your friends
who want you to be his gf but you dun like him, or insurance agent,
you would be able to say "NO" to them. 
So, at least, thats one thing good about them. and those in DSAS,
is that the membership is totally refundable. 