shall i try to answer this qns ? dont flame me please
Originally posted by prso:
[b]CHC always maintain that members are not pressured to buy hys
albums and that the church do not use hard-selling methods to aid
her cd. ok, let us see for ourself by the below instances..
1.During the period of her album launching, my cgl called me as
asked,' how many cds you buying?'. he did not ask are you buying
but how many? so it is obvious that people are buying more than
one. when i ask why you want to know, he said the pastor want to
know.
i must admit ... yes the pastor
wants to know. it is in the CGL's weekly to do list. so she will
can you and ask. you can say you dont want to buy. if she force
you, i think she is acting on her own will.
sometimes cgls push people too hard in things like tat giving
people an impression that the church is forcing people to do or
rather buy the alburm in this case.
2.There was once a campaign to aid needly children. All you need to
do to play a part is to buy her album( the more the better, since
its for charity), and chc staff will send those album to the
children home. there are of cause ppl who again buy more than one(
afterall, its for the children isn't it?) during one service, the
pastor reported that the children were delighted to receive her cds
and were greatly blessed by her songs, there's even pictures as
evidents. but my thoughts is, of cause those children are
delighted, they will accept any presents, afterall, its free, but i
believe they will be happier to receive other things like toys,
books etc, it will be more useful anyway. but wait!!! why do those
children living in the same children home need a CD each?? weird
weird.. i doubt they have a cd player each. so in the campaign, all
the children gained was a cd that they will prob. forget in a few
weeks time, but hys's cd sale got a massive boost, in the name of
charity..
actually that "charity event"
happen after the feedback from the children home that the kids kind
of like sun's song and so pst kong wanted to bless them with SUN's
cd. is that simple. .. dont look it in a complicated point of
view
3.during the period of her cd launching, you can see her promotion
posters all over the church compound, her mtv, concert and variety
show video clips and even advertisement on TVs all over the church.
there will be people stationed at the lobby holding baskets of her
cds, urging people to buy.
Then did you buy? i personally
did not buy after the launch week. and when the cgls ask me, i
would just tell them i bought mine. thank you and walk away. is
that simple 
as for
cgls, they are trying to make things easier for you because the
record company sends all the stock to the ticket distribution area
( which is chc ) directly. so office ask all cgls to submit the
number of cds they wan to reserve.
as for the posters and video, chc is the ticket distribution point
for her concert , so naturally will screen her video and posters.
it applies to other shows when you purchase at sistic outlets they
will have posters or video to intro the singer. i must admit that
we are abit kaisu ... paste the whole lobby. but tat is on the
kaisu part not deco the church with her poster mah
4.during service, some time is given to show her mtv and other
video clips, and the pastor will talk about her new album, urging
people to support her etc. Once in a statement given by the CHC
board of 'something', they clarified that the reason why her clips
are shown during service is because hyw is a well-loved and
respected leader of the church, the members will want to know
updates about her.. ok, fair enough.... but why only during her
album promotion period? what is the purpose?
mmmmm .... seems like you attend CHC. i think is a nom for pst to
show videos in svc not just for her mtv but also updates on other
events. back in the old church, we have been doing that.
whenever possible there is a event or conference.
there will be a intro video so the members know what is happening.
What good does it do to God's work by buying her cd?
Hys's singing career is often stressed to be doing God's work. to
use secular music to reach out to non-christians, therefore members
are urged to support her and buy her cd... think about it, as
christians, chc members buying her cd... what good does it do? so
what if she sells 20k albums in singapore? does that help in
evangelising? ultimately, its christians who are buying up her cds,
so what's the point?
Hys doing God's work?
Rom 12.2
Don't copy the behavior and customs of this world, but let God
transform you into a new person by changing the way you think. Then
you will know what God wants you to do, and you will know how good
and pleasing and perfect his will really is. (NLT)
2 Cor 10:3-5
We are human, but we don't wage war with human plans and methods.
We use God's mighty weapons, not mere worldly weapons, to knock
down the Devil's strongholds. With these weapons we break down
every proud argument that keeps people from knowing God. With these
weapons we conquer their rebellious ideas, and we teach them to
obey Christ.(NLT)
So.. is God suddenly so desperate that he now uses secular music to
win souls into his kingdom? CHC people argued that she's not the
only one, where are others too. well these verses apply to those
people as well.
well, you quoted the bible well,
proves that you did study the bible. remember that when jesus was
dining with tax collectors and harlots, people around him was
scaptical about it. but jesus did it knowing that he can touch
lives.
we patten our lives on jesus as paul recommands us to pst sun did the crossover project knowing that all this
comments will come head on, she still did it because she choose to
believes and the management prayed for 4 mths before launching into
the project. pior to launching, pst kong actually told the members
from the pulpit that SUN is going into this project.
Tithing
I know its irrelevant, but since it was mentioned in previous
postings, let me share my two cent worth.
1.Tithing is biblical, it is 10 percent of your income, afterall,
the word tithe means 1/10. Most, if not all churches practice
tithing. Members are encouraged and should be encouraged to
tithe.
2.However, tithing is not a must. CHC never force people to tithe,
but pressure. definately. why?
A-if you started tithing and suddenly for one mth you did not
tithe, your cgl will talk to you or call you and ask,' have you
given your tithe?'( obviously he know you didn't, if not why he
won't ask you anyway)
