F.U.C.K National Service

Icemoon SG

I don't see what's wrong with complaining per se, as it can be a form of fighting for improvement. We also complain mah, not only him. We complain why oral sex is illegal, do I have to tell you some countries do not have luxury of condoms and cannot enjoy sex safely? Be glad you can f.u.c.k safely, so just let gahman have their way and enfore the oral sex law?

imagin Singapore goes to war one day... with such a small population, the onli resource Singapore has is man power... if Singapore does nt have any army at all... you think Singapore will survive?

Sorry, this is a false dilemma. It's not we either have or don't have scenario. No national service doesn't mean we "does not have any army at all". And I betcha some people still want to sign on army; maybe more people, since all are volunteers and less people will speak ill about the army.

do u wan to go through another phrase of Japanese Occupation? that was the result when the soldiers of Singapore and Malayan were not well-trained in warfare

So? Are you implying a professional army, one that doesn't conscript, is not well-trained?

... when singapore goes to war... u think other countries will help us... maybe US will help us NEGOTIATE... but they will not be able to send enough soldiers to help us... who wants to send his forces to another country... leaving itself soldier-less

Not enough soldiers to help us? Including US? Negotiate only? With US maintaining a military presence worldwide, to the point of being a busybody to some people, you think US will not help us? Soldierless? Help us they become soldierless?!

Please don't have the impression we're just sitting ducks without NSFs.

... wat if US is the one who attack us?

Since you give such an incredible proposition, then I give you my incredible answer: wat if China, North Korea, terrorist organizations all help Singapore? Doomsday lor .. lol

wuming78 SG

perhaps u can be assured by the fact tt ns for females was considered, and will definitely be considered again in future when our male population dwindles.

as for compensation, how much is massive? care to quote a price for a person who has lost his life for his loved ones and his country?

perhaps u shud start these discussions in separate threads so tt ppl will not misunderstand where u r coming from.

Parka SG

You do have a choice not to serve NS.

Migrate.

Icemoon SG

You fail to see the big picture. Who say that NS has to be tough training? A modified BMT for females is possible, to teach them the fundamentals of combat, so that they can defend themselves and the kids during FIBUA. But I think females can serve in the civil defense, with more emphasis on nursing skills.

ppl who completed army usually get more pay than those who never go army isn't it?

Of course la ... the guys are already 2 years behind their female counterparts who graduated first and find work first, hence earning more than the guys (2 years pay difference).

Moreover, NS is seen as some sort of work experience, so it's justified that the *starting* pay is higher.

kopiosatu SG

oh well... just another guy complaining about NS, what's new?

dowan to serve, migrate lor.
hate the country? migrate lor

ppl say u quitter? u migrate liao, why u care?
cannot migrate? too bad, serve NS
hate NS? migrate lor

wuming78 SG

they do haf at least another option.

go for sex change. at least its safer to do it in singapore!

NeonTetra SG

this's for you too

busy givin out SAF colors

kopiosatu SG

judging someone's fate so quickly? what makes u think u won't be dead in a war?

weidev SG

Originally posted by Icemoon:

I don't see what's wrong with complaining per se, as it can be a form of fighting for improvement. We also complain mah, not only him. We complain why oral sex is illegal, do I have to tell you some countries do not have luxury of condoms and cannot enjoy sex safely? Be glad you can f.u.c.k safely, so just let gahman have their way and enfore the oral sex law?

er... wat have this got to do with NS?

Sorry, this is a false dilemma. It's not we either have or don't have scenario. No national service doesn't mean we "does not have any army at all". And I betcha some people still want to sign on army; maybe more people, since all are volunteers and less people will speak ill about the army.

if there is no national service hw do u think the singaporeans will be trained for war?[/I]

So? Are you implying a professional army, one that doesn't conscript, is not well-trained?

[i]tat was nt professional enough... if you read history correctly... most of the soldiers were nt trained in jungle warfare and tat's y they lost to the Japanese so badly...

Not enough soldiers to help us? Including US? Negotiate only? With US maintaining a military presence worldwide, to the point of being a busybody to some people, you think US will not help us? Soldierless? Help us they become soldierless?!

Please don't have the impression we're just sitting ducks without NSFs.

If the country attacking us is China for example... US may or may nt life a finger to help us... tat will depend on the frienship between them isn't it? US maintain a military pressence... and yet they could nt get North Korea to hand over nuclear weapons? amazing... US will onli help if they gain something from it... u think they are "so" kind? a fully equipped army without any trained soldiers... are nt sitting ducks... it is plain commit suicide...

Since you give such an incredible proposition, then I give you my incredible answer: wat if China, North Korea, terrorist organizations all help Singapore? Doomsday lor .. lol

if tat really happens? singapore will be condemned forever... getting help from terroist shd nt be the way... since we r also against them... like wat i said... countries will onli help us if they gain something from it... if nt they will just sit and watch the show... y do you think countries like Britain & France help US attack Saddam Hussein? cos they want a piece of Iraq... their oil... thie resources... if nt u think Britain and France so "on"?

NeonTetra SG

SmallPanda SG

I won't be fighting it.

kopiosatu SG

oh, not in it? enjoy yourself then.

he made the decision to fight if there's a war
u avoid war, its ur decision too, there's no point in putting a guy down.

wuming78 SG

oh, and if u wanna do it, pls do it quick - at least b4 the government decides to impose ns on the gals as well. Wink

weidev SG

Originally posted by Icemoon:

You fail to see the big picture. Who say that NS has to be tough training? A modified BMT for females is possible, to teach them the fundamentals of combat, so that they can defend themselves and the kids during FIBUA. But I think females can serve in the civil defense, with more emphasis on nursing skills.

if the training is nt tough hw do u think they will be able to protect the child AS WELL AS thamselves? use wat? tai ji quan?

Of course la ... the guys are already 2 years behind their female counterparts who graduated first and find work first, hence earning more than the guys (2 years pay difference).

Moreover, NS is seen as some sort of work experience, so it's justified that the *starting* pay is higher.

[i]as u said... NS is even better... guys are promised "work" and they get work experience somemore... wat other benefits u wan?[/I]

SmallPanda SG

What decisions??? NS is compulsory, no choice. If there is a war, you must die.
That guy is a doofus that has no idea what war is like.

NeonTetra: Join the army already please. Rolling Eyes

NeonTetra SG

wat me?

i told u i served my NS liao.

kopiosatu SG

like i said. don't like it? migrate.
can't migrate? then serve NS like all the men before you.
this is singapore, you hate singapore? migrate.

NS is compulsory for singaporeans. pick another country to be in if you hate NS so much. There is a choice to avoid NS, and that is to migrate.

you said you won't be fighting a war, so i take it that you've either migrated, or hiding in some bomb shelter.

now u call him a doofus. do you know what war is like? enlighten me please.

weidev SG

if i don wan to go NS... hell there are so many ways i can avoid it... but as a boy(since i nt yet go for NS), i make sure i myself attend NS regardless of hw it is like... it is a time for me to train myself... to learn new skills... combat training... and a chance to show the rest of Singapores tat i am a useful person in SIngapore... nt some loser... who escape overseas to escape NS... if u call me a doofus juz cos i support NS... then i will remain as a doofus...

weidev SG

nah... he juz cannot accept the fact tat u have ORDed

SmallPanda SG

Heres a question for you. If part of the training was to take a gun, put it to your head, and kill yourself, would you do it?

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