Christian Homophobes should go Fcuk themselves!

last SG · 2003-07-24T13:17:42+00:00

Mr bear, u should write to the press cos ur angmo very powerful. Write here no use one lah.

sillyme SG

note: there are non-christians who are homophobic too.

Yunhaier SG

When there is difference in point of preception - they are bound to be heavy conflicts.

The religious stand is always anti-natural; but if I were to say that gay is natural creation of this world, probably I get blasted for saying that and nobody would agree with me.

Christian finds no place for homo because they do not believe in recarnation. This is a major factor (probably together with personal karma) contributing for the creation of a Gay person. Rolling Eyes

In the end - it all boils down to what you believe, how you see it and what had influenced you over the years.

A question for Christian: If everything on Earth is creation of God - shouldn't gay be part of the creation as well? Then why its not natural? Creation of devil? If my memories never fail me, I recall a pastor once told me that the Devil has no creation on earth - it probably only influnce people with dark thoughts. Rolling Eyes

Cheers

the Bear SG

in the past where homophobes were terrible and gay people were blackmailed, it would be a sensitive issue because gay people in sensitive places could be blackmailed...

oh, you know the man who helped crack the Enigma code in WWII, Turing? he was gay.. and because of that, he was hounded until he killed himself...

did his being a gay person cause him to be any less competent?

it was the bastards who were intolerant that made a brilliant mathematician like him take his own life...

i don't think it's for the gay people to change.. it's for the bigots to change..

as aforementioned, if the religious nutters get away with their bigotry, what next? who's next?

it might be you...

summerain22 SG

Originally posted by Yunhaier:
When there is difference in point of preception - they are bound to be heavy conflicts.

The religious stand is always anti-natural; but if I were to say that gay is natural creation of this world, probably I get blasted for saying that and nobody would agree with me.

Christian finds no place for homo because they do not believe in recarnation. This is a major factor (probably together with personal karma) contributing for the creation of a Gay person.

[b]In the end - it all boils down to what you believe, how you see it and what had influenced you over the years.

A question for Christian: If everything on Earth is creation of God - shouldn't gay be part of the creation as well? Then why its not natural? Creation of devil? If my memories never fail me, I recall a pastor once told me that the Devil has no creation on earth - it probably only influnce people with dark thoughts. Rolling Eyes

Cheers [/b]

I know the answer to your question, but i do not wish to create more disagreements here. As u said, it all boils down to what u believe, and my answer comes from what I have learnt and believed in the bible. It will only lead to more arguments and this is already getting out of hand.

ratinacage SG

ya sure,try to change my gahmen's view,go try..... Rolling Eyes

did i say i dun like god-fearing men??did i say all christians shud die???i dun remember,u tell me!
....but if a group of ppl voice out against another group of ppl,u think the world will keep quiet and take it laying down??
so in ur idea world,when 1 speaks against another,nobody shud tell 1 that he is gravely wrong???and let 1 have his ways???cos if i come in and tell 1 off then i m a pot calling the kettle black!!!
1 would love that would he not??wat a lovely world,even if its only for 1,but at least someone has a prefect world..?
so u think the topic is harsh???telling these ppl to fcuk off!!!these same ppl who wants some gay men to be without a job....some gay men who is qualified,to go hungry....who treats gay men as some sub-human!!!u tell me wats harsh cos i forgot.to be told that i m wrong or to be treated like as sub-human jux becos i m not like u....

pray do tell me!!

the Bear SG

Tomas de Torquemada believed he was right when he caused the deaths of all the "heretics"...

ratinacage SG

i think some of u guys will have no problem holding high ranks in the KKK..... Mr. Green

duotiga83 SG

the thing is.....y some of ppl put chrsitain as same as kkk. we n them r 2 different thing........

the Bear SG

they are not...

however, if the vocal minority behave like the KKK, people will think that the Christians are like the KKK... and attract the like...

and after a while, it becomes the KKK...

we have lost the moment we allow injustice to happen without doing something about it...

summerain22 SG

At least we dont resort to such language. Are u saying that its right to tell them to fcuk off just cos u dont agree with them? So if i dont agree with u, should i tell u to fcuk off too? Is that how u see it.. u think cos they are harsh that u have the right to be harsh too? If that's the case, then no wonder there's no love in this world!

This is exactly what I'm saying. FOR THE LAST TIME, I DONT AGREE WITH THE CHRISTIANS, GET THAT IN YOUR HEAD.
All i'm saying that yes, u're being a hypocrite. You slag the christians off for something that u yourself are doing. By telling them to fcuk off, do u think anything wil be solved?!?! Do u see christians telling gays to fuck off?? Whatever ur opinion, if u wanna do something abt it, do so in a peaceful way!!

summerain22 SG

How that has any relevance to what i said, i have no idea. Rolling Eyes

ugo_gal SG

homosexuals are no uncommon from us, and stop stigmatizing them. they are not deviants k.... even if the bible says that homesexual is a sin, but it was passed down from olden days which the followers had the idea that loving same sex was dirty. comon, with so much educations and media exposure, we should change our opinion of homosexuals.
we should stop labelling and giving them bad names. Wink

the Bear SG

simple... he was intolerant of anyone who did not subscribe to the teachings and submitted to the Church...

he called them Heretics and burnt them at the stake...

he was doing this "for the church" and "for God"...

by being intolerant, we are heading towards the twisted values of Torquemada...

again, be informed of what happened... do a search for information instead of accepting everything taught to you.. have total faith in God.. but remember.. His servants on earth are still Human...

Torquemada thought he was acting for God, but he behaved like he was God... here, the Christians are claiming to act for God, but they are behaving like they are God

summerain22 SG

You are sad if u allow the media to change ur opinions and belief. Anyway, it does not matter what people think of homos, whether they are dirty or not is not the point. The point is that u shouldn't discriminate. No matter what kind of people they are or whatever ur opinion of them.

choco B SG

Do not fear dissent. The age of stoic sufferance is over. We must learn to speak up, learn to analyse & decide what is right and wrong for ourselves. After all the fairest judgment is derived only after listening to all sides and views. & The firmest belief comes from an irrefutable strength of conviction.

Let there be openness! By speaking out, every speaker reveals both good and bad sides of himself. So public official statements from the church (or any other religious leader) actually reveals more varied aspects of the religion, both benign and insular. & That's a very good thing.

ratinacage SG

Originally posted by summerain22:

At least we dont resort to such language. Are u saying that its right to tell them to fcuk off just cos u dont agree with them? So if i dont agree with u, should i tell u to fcuk off too? Is that how u see it.. u think cos they are harsh that u have the right to be harsh too? If that's the case, then no wonder there's no love in this world!

This is exactly what I'm saying. [b]FOR THE LAST TIME, I DONT AGREE WITH THE CHRISTIANS, GET THAT IN YOUR HEAD.
All i'm saying that yes, u're being a hypocrite. You slag the christians off for something that u yourself are doing. By telling them to fcuk off, do u think anything wil be solved?!?! Do u see christians telling gays to fuck off?? Whatever ur opinion, if u wanna do something abt it, do so in a peaceful way!![/b]

no,i dun see the christains telling gays to fcuk off,i just see them telling gays to starve to death cos they cannot hold any respectable jobs as they are not normal(sub-human).and go to hell after they are dead.as they are again not conforming to their standards.
and by saying that i m a hypocrite cos i m bad-mouthing some ppl.i so do agree,mirror???
and yes,i shud do so in a peaceful manner,like gathering all my kakis to discuss about how some minor or even major group of ppl shud be round up and shot!!!by the police of cos...

and tell me one thing,if u dun agree with the other party and u dun agree with me???wat good are u??why are u even in here???so that ppl will know how rightoues u r??? Rolling Eyes

the Bear SG

question:
are you not guilty of the same thing?

your church elders say that homosexuality is psychological and you believe them instead of finding out the truth?

you shouldn't discriminate... no matter what kind of people your church elders are or whatever your high opinion of them.

they can be wrong... and in this case, i would say they are...

summerain22 SG

The same applies to u.. u may not know the reason for them acting like this. You dont know if God may have instructed them to do so. They are just doing what they think is right, what they think God wants them to do. I am by no means trying to justify their actions, i'm just saying that there are 2 sides to every the story.

I know that they are still human, which is why i am not supporting them in this. But who's to say who is right and who is wrong? Isn't the most important commandment of all to love your neighbour as yourself? Why do people keep forgetting this?

ratinacage SG

muahahahahaha....strange!i could swear the same things happened to KKK....exactly the same things.......beating and burning the non-white ppl in the name of GOD!!!
so do u guys see how dangerous a word that is if misused!!!
we are all his children....no???so big brother has the right to burn younger brother for being different???

duotiga83 SG

no matter how open u r…there still discrimination ard us….be it this or religions…..

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