Kill or be Killed (an Abortion Story)

last SG · 2003-07-17T02:29:07+00:00

The misconception that abortion causes infertility comes from the days before abortion was legal. Back then, the problematic “back alley” conditions under wh...

Stevenson101 SG

it's kinda hilarious to see a guy trying to justify his action with logic when it was his penis doing the thinking.

And please hoplite, it is your girlfriend that is having a metal object inserted into her to kill off something that was part of her. You're not the one sitting on the bed wearing a gown and your legs spread apart hanging on metal braces.

Don't even pretend you understand how your girlfriend feels.

the Bear SG

and you do?

Stevenson101 SG

and you do?

Haha, you again. The fella that lies to support his stand. You thought i forgot about it? Or should i use selective ignorance?

And yes to your question Bear, i read a lot. Most people fear a simple thing like an injection (I'm no exception). A small alloy needle around 4-5 cm long.

Can you imagine the vulnerability of sitting on a bed with your legs balanced on metal braces and having the equivalent of a vaccum cleaner or wrench (Not really certain with the exact tools used for abortion) inserted in your butt and retriving a portion out of you ?

And no, you're conscious all the way. Unless of course, the abortion clinics changed their policy that i was not aware of.

Of course, you are also forgetting that the female psychology is different from males. It is easy to stand there and see your girlfriend getting wheeled into the operation theatre getting the abortion and rant about supporting abortion.

AzRaeL SG

some aliens gave him an anal probe Smile
why does the guy always get the ENTIRE fucking blame?
maybe the girl wants sex too?

AzRaeL SG

assuming he's acting fast and not past the 7 week mark. there's always the menstrual regulation method of aborting the fetus.

the object inserted is a thin PLASTIC (not metal) tube and a vacuum sucks out the embryo.

it's his GF going through this, not you, so let him be.
it's HIS choice, not yours.

the Bear SG

i read a lot too..

and here... you don't even know where or who he is... and you have even less clue who his girl is...

and you say you know her mind.. better than him...

but all you do is tell us things that go on in a clinic.. however, nothing about her mind..

yet you say you know the mind of someone you have never met better than her guy...

what's going on, Uri?

sheesh!

shaunlaw SG

Look, hopelite, u dun even dare to face ur gf family members and tell them abt wat has happened and u are stil toking abt ur maturity and how u are matured enuff to make intelligent decisions.

Not facing up to the wrath of ur gf's parents is one mature decision? Intelligent decision? I seriously doubt it. Mad

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

Oh now we know what type of person you are... basically now we all know who we can exploit and not feel bad about it. Everything is justifiable, as long as we are not caught. Conscience is an illusion apparently.

Next time I know who to mug liao. And maybe kipdap to some ulu area and torture just for kicks? Dosen't sound so much fun now does it?

Basically so your logic is, even if it's my fault and I can actually have the chance to make it better for my victim in the accident by taking him to the hospital. To make sure my future is better, I should leave him to die.

Wait one day it happens to your mother or father then see how if you'll subscribe to that kind of logic or not. But wait, we already know what your reaction will be won't it.

Basically, you are somebody who lives behind a paper-thin veener of illogic and oxymorons, pick and mix worldviews to justify your means. A pyscopathic character so to speak... only you are real, it's what you feel that matters, everybody around are just paper doll characters for you to exploit, it dosen't matter what happen to them.

Amazing, now we know who not to have as friends.

saintboy SG

Just the phrase that i was looking for.... Smile

AzRaeL SG

time out time out!
you were the one who proposed to hoplite this scenario. ha!
and you're calling him a psycho?

AzRaeL SG

doesn't EVERBODY do that?
Pick and Choose world views to match our purposes.

That's how we get anything done and make any decision.

We have to choose what we wanna believe.

CenturionMBT SG

Hoplite, i understand your situation.I don't condone abortion nor do i condone pre maritial sex , but at the same time, i guess your situation calls or it.However, maybe you should try to preach against pre maritial sex rather than encouraging people to abort.A life is a life you terminate it, it is considered as killing, whether it is legal or not.At the same time, i am just a bystander who does not have any rights to interfere with you life.I just hope that you won't commit such a mistake again.

Remember, you are responsible for yourself.At the same time, it takes a level of maturity to make sure you are on the right track. I just wish you and your girlfriend good luck, and value each other more than ever.Don't commit the mistake again.

Maybe a couple of years down the road, when you and your girlfriend is presumably married, i hope you remember that you once had a child and i hope you will never forget about him and his sacrifices.
You sacrifice him so that you could be together with his mom. Make sure his sacrifice is just.
Tresure her, and don't make anymore meaningless sacrifices again

I wish you and your girl friend all the best.

Moosmooer SG

no point debating over ifs. it'll be endless.

my view. abortion is ok if the circumtances called for it. that's one story.

but it's another for a guy who doesn't learn from his mistake. one who feels no guilt, don't give a damn, concludes that his girlfriend won't mind the abortion and the risk of not having children just because 'she's not that crazy about kids anyway', and even go around the forum blasting 'anti-choice pro-lifers' to pull their heads out from their collective asses, boosting how mature he is (even after he admits he lacks the balls to face up to the girl's parents).

to me, this guy is a hopeless case, a menace to the society, a person i pray will never get anywhere near my life.

and i wouldn't be surprised if he comes up a few months later declaring his girl went for another abortion and boosting how this time his profound experience has taught him not to panic and how steadily he psychoed his gf for another abortion.

nah, why do i even bother. just passing time maybe...

the Bear SG

here's the part no one on the "pro-life" side seems to get...

IT'S HIS AND HER DECISION!

everyone's trying to force their morality on them!

you want if you are in another place, for people to force you to throw away twin babies because they think twins are evil? it's been done in tribes of africa..

same argument here..

Moosmooer SG

yea and seriously, i'll thank god for that.

Moosmooer SG

of course it's his & her decision and it's within their rights! i 100%support that sentence.

but look here, i'm not blasting him for the abortion. i'm blasting his attitude after the abortion. that's the difference Smile

CenturionMBT SG

Ok, then see it this way, i kill you because i feel that it is my right to kill you, and it is my decision to kill you.Would my rights still apply in such circumstances?

the Bear SG

you know, in the past, it would have been...

as it would have been my right to defend myself...

BTW, if a man is sentenced to hang, would you go and spring him?

Hoplite SG

You are so ELOQUENT but so immature.
dropping down to personal attacks and rattling off topic.
so i shall not really bother answering your post in full.
it's my choice okay? live with it.
if you can't handle it? too fcuking bad!

Hoplite SG

thank you centurion. as for premarital sex, i think i'll take the advice and try to get her on the pill. dont tell me you've never had premarital sex before.

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