ERP ERP ERP

alwaysdisturbed SG

Then wait for the next one. It won't kill you if you are late by 2-3 mins... you don't want SMRT to hire 'pushers' to push people on the train like they do in Tokyo right? If they hire pushers, everybody sure can get in the train wan. Everybody will then complain not of not getting onboard the train, but how they are treated like animals...

And then cases of molest will shoot up into outer space.

So its either you wait for the next train, or get pushed like sardines in cans. I'd rather wait for the next train, or the train after the next.

i think i'm quite reasonable. if they had kept fares the same for the past decade. i wouldn't be complaining.

if they keep on increasing fares to claim for better service. i don't know where this 'better service' is.

Ferrari_RoXz SG

i think i'm quite reasonable. if they had kept fares the same for the past decade. i wouldn't be complaining.

if they keep on increasing fares to claim for better service. i don't know where this 'better service' is.

You have to consider the operating cost now, and a decade ago. Oil prices are now at it's highest now. Surely you know that MRT runs on electricity. How is electricity produced? Oil. When it comes to mass transportation, oil is an unavoidable factor to consider.

At least SMRT tried to increase it's number of trains by 90 per week. This shows they are trying to do something to solve all the overcrowding complaints. And they have not (not yet) raised fares for it. SMRT is a company, not a charity, they need to make profits also. Sometime you must look in the company's point of view.

Thus, I think the point of comparison you made (a decade ago thing) is largely invalid because everything else, not only MRT prices, have increased. The only thing that decreased is prices of COE and road tax.

Gutentaginator SG

Actually, our ERP is not that bad compared to London. Their "ERP" called "Congestion Charge" is much worse. Because the hours are fixed, and there are long operation hours, like 7am-6pm kind of timings. And they have to pay 25 pounds to enter the city area. 25 pounds is about $75 Singapore dollars.

See how expensive their charge can get? The only advantage is that they charge the fee only once a day. So you can drive in and out on the same day without paying extra. But, how many times do you drive in and out of the city each day?
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You make it sound like the erp hike is justified and there is a lot of room left for erp hikes?

Do you know how much Londoners are earning compared to Asians?

caleb_chiang SG

Gahmen getting eye soar at the riches of the citizen and wanna squeeze us dry...

alwaysdisturbed SG

look at their profits over the years. and i believe the increase in ridership over the years could have covered all the increase in operating costs.

correct, COE and road tax are the only things that decrease. but there is a better way to squeeze now than COE and road tax which are 1 time payments.

Ferrari_RoXz SG

look at their profits over the years. and i believe the increase in ridership over the years could have covered all the increase in operating costs.

correct, COE and road tax are the only things that decrease. but there is a better way to squeeze now than COE and road tax which are 1 time payments.

I agree with you that ridership has increased over the years. SMRT, being greedy (again) tried to ask for a fare increase recently. But the public transport council (PTC) rejected their fare hike proposal citing the high profits.

So we have to thank the PTC for our fare prices now, without PTC, I think we will be paying a huge amount of money for a MRT ride.

But there's nothing we can do. The sole purpose of PAP is to make us pay and pay. Since it's their slogan, they will continue to squeeze us dry. What to do? We sit down and let them squeeze lor. But ERP I believe is avoidable if you plan your route properly and at the correct timings.

kipnosky SG

I think to a large degree our civil servants are too complacent to think creatively about alternative solutions. They will just use the money angle to hack away at any problem.

balance_else_complacent SG

one guy said,

ERP hike good for you leh.

balance_else_complacent SG

I think to a large degree our civil servants are too complacent to think creatively about alternative solutions. They will just use the money angle to hack away at any problem.

many solutions i know is increase this increase that.

almost all is about $$.

alwaysdisturbed SG

haiya, maybe sbs transit has yet to finalise their hike plans.

though for this i admit i have nothing to back up, i still feel its all wayang.

regarding planning the route and timings correctly, i'm wondering if you are expecting people to work in the middle of the night. the concept of erp has gone haywire - setting them up at residential areas.

sinicker SG

LTA chairman says....

ERP helps people spend more time with families and not spend time in traffic congestion!!

and henceforth,

I LOVE ERP! how about you?

balance_else_complacent SG

Your words are facts - I have relations residing in London and I know about them too.

But have you considered the cost of living in London with their gross pay factored in?

You have to measure it according to the economies of scale.

The best way to benchmark such situations would be the use of the percentile mark.

However, I would like to add that the city charge applies to only the city which is equivalent to the CBD cordon that we have in Singapore and that to me is perfectly fine.

It is implemented in every developed state to reduce gridlock in the streets within the CBD.

However - ERP is coming to the average man's estate. Is it justifiable? Or simply to prevent people from detouring and avoiding their current system?

Think tanks ahoy!

Whether justifiable or not depends on the People.

This is a democracy.

So far, all support. at least they did not show they dont support.

cuddles SG

that time I heard a cab driver told me some relative of his works at LTA.. and a huge number of ERP gantries are proposed and planned. so anytime they want to approve or build any, very fast can set up liao..

sinicker SG

yessss... and i always see the gantry posts/structures at this factory just beside bedok mrt station.

westbound platform can see.. it's just beside the mrt station.

maurizio13 SG

High ERP charges are good, it helps the population, helps the businesses inside CBD by bringing in more customers. At least that is what the government is trying to psyche the citizens into believing.

Beautiful951 SG

If we take bus and MRT do we need to worry about ERP?

sinicker SG

If we take bus and MRT do we need to worry about ERP?

you have to worry about squeezing with office ladies.....

& the prospect of a molest charge against you!

sinicker SG

soon we have human ERP riaos... blue/pink IC can top up $ one.

then raymond lim say..

"now we all dont need to go town. we build for you shopping centres everywhere. tampines mall, causeway point, jurong point. there really is not a need for everyone to come into town to shop."

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