please explain to me how halal works

last SG · 2008-11-15T18:13:15+00:00

just wondering, if they can't even use wet tissue with alcohol, why can they touch money as in notes/coins? I bet money is more "dirty" than a wet tissue can...

rlsh07 SG

they have a processing plant for poultry.

then they have a halal stamp mah

but those sold in the wet market?

sinicker SG

oh k now i get it actually. but how do u knoe the chicken or beef is killed in the correct way before they eat it. like in the market stall, they would have halal n non-halal chicken meat too?

in wet markets, more or less halal chicken is sold by muslims, non-halal chicken sold by non-muslims... if non-muslims sell halal chicken, then they gotta have the adequate stamp of approval..

even in supermarkets like fairprice, processed/cut chicken even have halal, non-halal sections...

hope this clears.

sinicker SG

but those sold in the wet market?

leg got tag one.

i long time never go wet market buy chicken.

rlsh07 SG

oh i @@ thanks sinicker.

PtePinkY SG

not racist but am sure not happy with the halal thing in the country. to get the halal cert, the operator or manufacturer must have a certain percentage of muslim employees.

And things that have affected badly are like, pepperoni are usually made of pork and pizza hut serve beef pepperoni. being a buddhist, i can choose to have other pizza and dont even make an hintch about a no beef cert. i love pepperoni but due to religon restrictions, i gotta give it a miss.

Hamburger as its name suggest, are pork while mac in singapore serve them made of beef unlike the us, pork. gotta give it a miss again.

dont see the need to make a big hoo ha for our muslim friends here demanding a halal cert before they eat at a certain place. just like vegetarians, order what you dont think contain meat or specify to the waiter that you are a muslim. please serve me halal certified meat and not contain any non halal ingredients into it.

why the fuss?

by the way, most drugs like sleeping pills, panadol, cough syrup, painkillers etc. are not halal so why eat?

corebooster SG

but those sold in the wet market?

its up to the discretion of buyers.

corebooster SG

not racist but am sure not happy with the halal thing in the country. to get the halal cert, the operator or manufacturer must have a certain percentage of muslim employees.

Hamburger as its name suggest, are pork while mac in singapore serve them made of beef unlike the us, pork. gotta give it a miss again.

why the fuss?

by the way, most drugs like sleeping pills, panadol, cough syrup, painkillers etc. are not halal so why eat?

reason being, drug are not made from meat.

u dun see halal cabbage or beansprouts rite?

PtePinkY SG

cant totally agree with that. drugs are like proccessed food. just like glucosamine are made from shells of shellfish according to wiki. strepstrils contain alcohol(not sure now but does contain ethanol 3 years back)

the drugs does not contain any information on the packing if they are halal or vegetarian.

comparing that with vegetables is not approiate since thats pretty much a straight forward thing.

Master -_- SG

not racist but am sure not happy with the halal thing in the country. to get the halal cert, the operator or manufacturer must have a certain percentage of muslim employees.

Hamburger as its name suggest, are pork while mac in singapore serve them made of beef unlike the us, pork. gotta give it a miss again.

why the fuss?

by the way, most drugs like sleeping pills, panadol, cough syrup, painkillers etc. are not halal so why eat?

Thats where supply and demand comes in...

If I open a restaurant and sells pork and i made market research that more of my customers buy non pork dishes than pork dishes, isn't it more feasible for me to garner more piece of the pie rather than having a stagnant income and overbearing supply of pork at the same time.

I mean non muslims have so many places to feed on pork wat...(all those chinese BKT/Kway Chap stalls, German kitchens etc) Is it so hard for Muslims to have variety and socially integrate with their non-muslims friend? For goodness sake, TS, i have already taken action regarding what you said in the previous thread...You only have yourself to blame.

sinicker SG

i dont think any muslim ever demanded a certain place to be halal.

it's just the food establishments wanna increase their consumer base by some hundred thousands.

crimsontactics SG

No pork, no lard i think can already.

sinicker SG

No pork, no lard i think can already.

not as simple as 1 + 1 = 2.

read corebooster's reply above.

crimsontactics SG

not as simple as 1 + 1 = 2.

read corebooster's reply above.

But i think it is the most fundamental practice.

sinicker SG

But i think it is the most fundamental practice.

don't let those bakeries fool you.

Master -_- SG

and buffet/steamboat places

crimsontactics SG

don't let those bakeries fool you.

0.o

Ponders SG

But what i SERIOUSLY don't understand is that Wet tissue must be Halal certified also.

I asked my friend why it must be halal.

he said because it contains alcohol sometime.

But to my understand of alcohol in Islam, one must not be intoxicated or consume anything that makes the mind unsound. So its an open-end definition that automatically includes the consumption of alcohol as it leads to the mind being unsound.

We use alcohol wet tissue to clean ourselves (just like wudu), and we don't consume the alcohol wet tissue and merely touching it doesn't make the mind unsound.

So why wet tissue must be halal approved?

min_min SG

But what i SERIOUSLY don't understand is that Wet tissue must be Halal certified also.

I asked my friend why it must be halal.

he said because it contains alcohol sometime.

We use alcohol wet tissue to clean ourselves (just like wudu), and we don't consume the alcohol wet tissue and merely touching it doesn't make the mind unsound.

So why wet tissue must be halal approved?

i guess to play it safe, they just do not want to touch alcoholic stuff. so i think it's up to the manufacturers then to see if they want to get halal certified a not.

sinicker SG

But what i SERIOUSLY don't understand is that Wet tissue must be Halal certified also.

I asked my friend why it must be halal.

he said because it contains alcohol sometime.

We use alcohol wet tissue to clean ourselves (just like wudu), and we don't consume the alcohol wet tissue and merely touching it doesn't make the mind unsound.

So why wet tissue must be halal approved?

good topic brought up. this one i also dont understand. but i would say it's a gimmick!

Ponders SG

You know in Indonesia and Malaysia.. the Halal certification is so much less stricter and even the muslims are less strict.

In most areas of Indonesia, "Halal" means no Pork no lard. So even if the restuarant serves alcohol or serves meat slaughtered in the non-halal way. they will still eat it so long they don't eat Pork, Crab, Frog.

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