Past bus routes and deployment (Part 2)

SBS2601D SG

Mostly Hino HT238K/HT228KA/Nissan U31SCN.. Before Sv 852 gets their set of AC buses with the conversion to PAC, most of Sv 852 fleet are made up of NAC buses. Then later on, there was the restructuring & upgrading of the TIBS fleet, whereby most of the earlier buses (i.e. the Hino HT228KA) were retired after 12 years of lifespan. The Nissan U31SCN (between TIB26X and TIB29X) continues to serve on 852 - before they were retired and replaced by DAF Alexander Strider & MB O405s.

The DAF SB220LT Hispano buses were short-lived on Service 852 fleet just like the other permers esp on 855 & 925, before some DAFs were sent over to CSS.

We never had any DAF Striders.

carbikebus SG

DAF Hispano bodywerk just like the O405s OAC/CAC.

Love when 852 was under AM/KJ.....There's not much issue regarding long waiting time,less bus etc.There use to be at least 14 buses on 852 compared to now.

iveco SG

We never had any DAF Striders.

The DAFs had Setanta bodies which came from Alexander's now-defunct Belfast plant.

Gus.chong SG

What is the route of SBS 159 before the year it was amended to ply Lorong Chuan?

Gus.chong SG

What models were CSS220T-CSS309A before they were de-registered?

CSS230S-CSS266P were Hino HT238, registered in 1983 and pharsed out by 1996.

CSS267L-CSS268J were NAC Nissan Diesel U31SCNs, registered in 1985 and de-registered in 1997.

CSS269G was a NAC Hino HT238K, registered in 1986 and de-registered in 2001.

CSS270B-CSS289Z were Hispano DAF SB220LTs formerly registered as TIB405Z-TIB424T, re-registered in 1996/1997 and pharsed out by 2005.

CSS290T-CSS300Z (except CSS294H) were AC Hino HT238Ks formerly registered as TIB380K-TIB389L, re-registered in 1996/1997 and de-registered in 2003.

CSS294H was an AC Nissan Diesel U31SCN formerly registered as TIB390G, re-registered in 1997 and de-registered in 2004.

CSS301X-CSS309A were NAC Hino HT238Ks formerly registered as TIB353P-TIB361R, re-registered in 1997 and pharsed out by 2003.

SBS8533C SG

Actually CSS267L & CSS268J were the first AC bus of CSS as a trial run. It ran on CSS 8 for a start, before it was converted to NAC.

There was also CSS212U to CSS229Y existed as well, but I'm not sure what is the model bearing these regos.

Correction: Its CSS220X, not CSS220T.

SBS8533C SG

TIB1007H TIB1008E TIB1009C TIB1010Y TIB1011U TIB1013P TIB1014L are long term permers on 852.

SBS8533C SG

What is the route of SBS 159 before the year it was amended to ply Lorong Chuan?

SBS 159 was all along served Lor Chuan since its 2nd introduction.

SBS8533C SG

Service 159 Original Route (2nd introduction)

Toa Payoh Town Centre, Lor 6, Lor 4, Lor 1 Toa Payoh, Braddell Rd, Lor Chuan, Ang Mo Kio Ave 1, Ave 6 (Loop)

And return via Ang Mo Kio Ave 3, Ave 6, Ave 1, Lor Chuan, Braddell Rd, Lor 6, Lor 4 Toa Payoh Central, Lor 2 Toa Payoh, Toa Payoh Town Centre.

Service 159 started off as a LOOP service to Ang Mo Kio Ave 6, until when AMK Int opens, then it became a 2-directional service.

Gus.chong SG

I remembered the second 159 used DDs before.

And what are the amendments of 159 from its amendment to Ang Mo Kio till now?

SBS5151R SG

I want to clarify something about service 242 (1989-current).

In the start the second service 24l2 was introduced between Boon Lay Way (Lakeside MRT) to Jurong West St 91. Note: Service 242 had been calling at Jurong West St 72 & Jurong West Ave 5 since that time.

I believe everyone should know 242 is amended to Boon Lay Interchange when it opened. The second point that everyone should know, is that there are two amendments for 242 in the Jurong West Neighbourhoods in the 90s.

The first amendment, is when 243 is introduced in 1991, service 242 was amended to skip Jurong West St 72 & Jurong West Ave 5 and ply Upp Jurong Rd (the current Jurong West Ave 4).

The second amendment is in 1994, when 243 was amended to ply Jurong West St 81 & 75 instead. Service 242 was amended back to ply Jurong West St 72 & Jurong West Ave 5 (This amendment is not in June 1992!)

The other amendments everyone knows about it, so I'm not continuing from here.

Gus.chong SG

Some questions on deployments:

1) Do services 192 & 193 have a full SD fleet when it was just introduced? When was both services converted to PAC and when did both services receive NAC DDs like Leyland Olympians and Volvo Olympians?

2) What buses does service 27 use before it was made fully HGDEP controlled?

3) When did 13 started to have DDs?

SBS8533C SG

I remembered the second 159 used DDs before.

And what are the amendments of 159 from its amendment to Ang Mo Kio till now?

When AMK Int opens in 1983 - it became a two-directional service from Toa Payoh to Ang Mo Kio.

In 2001 - extended to Sengkang Interchange.
In 2003 - becomes loop service
In 2005 - reverted back to two-directional service.

SBS8533C SG

Some questions on deployments:

1) Do services 192 & 193 have a full SD fleet when it was just introduced? When was it converted to PAC (193) and when did both services receive NAC DDs like Leyland Olympians and Volvo Olympians?

2) What buses does service 27 use before it was made fully HGDEP controlled?

3) When did 13 started to have DDs?

1) Services 192 & 193 uses the OF1413s/ 1417s and then MB O405 NACs later.. Sv 193 was FAC in 1995 and reverted back to PAC in 1998 when 193 was amended to Tuas Ter. Both services received their LO2x in 1999 followed by the replacement to VO2x in 2003.

2) Service 27 was under BNDEP and Scania N113CRBs were used.

3) Somewhere around 1985-1986. Bedok to Ghim Moh route used to have DDs. If you are referring to the current era, Sv 13 gets DDs in July 2007.

Gus.chong SG

I want to say that Vicamour ever told me 159 used DDs before it was amended to ply Lorong Chuan.

And so, is the extension to Sengkang made 159 skip Ave 3 & 6 / ply Ave 8 instead?

Gus.chong SG

Thanks. By the way, it's been more than a year since you contribute the history of bus services. Are you free anyway? Can you please put in the history of Jurong / Boon Lay Bus Services if you are free?

SBS8533C SG

For Jurong & Boon Lay Services, I will only put up the years between 1978 and 1990.. The rest of it is easy to find out so I won't add it up here

Initially, the idea of the new Bus Interchange opening was unfolded when its Jurong Town Bus Service Rationalisation Exercise was drawn out on 1st June 1978, and it coincides with the Jurong Bus Interchange opening along Jurong Port Rd. The common reason for the rationalisation is to minimise route duplication & re-organise its bus service calling from a single bus interchange as a hub of public transport.

Here is an overview of the Jurong Bus Interchange Services for a start [bracket indicate former terminating point]:

10 - To Upp Changi Rd (8¼ ms) [Shipyard Rd]
30 - To Kg Chai Chee [Jln Ahmad Ibrahim]
154 - To MacPherson [International Rd]
157 - To Toa Payoh Town Ctr [Shipyard Rd]
165 - To Ang Mo Kio [Jln Boon Lay]
178 - To Upp Bt Timah Rd [Corporation Dr]
183 - To New Bridge Rd [Benoi Rd]
184 - To Telok Blangah Way[Shipyard Rd]
196 - To Prince Edward[Shipyard Rd]
197 - To Geylang Fringe Car Park
198 - To Sims Place [Old Jurong Rd]
206 - To Lim Chu Kang [Tg Kling Rd]

240 - Loop at Boon Lay Gdns
241 - Loop at Teban Gardens
242 - Loop at Kang Ching Rd
244 - Loop at Boon Lay Gdns

245 - Loop at Pandan Rd
246 - Loop at Boon Lay Gdns
247 - Loop at Jurong Pier Rd
248 - Loop at Neythal Rd
249 - Loop at Jln Samulun
250 - Loop at Sixth Lok Yang Rd
251 - Loop at Refinery Rd
253 - Loop at Benoi Rd
255 - Loop at Gul Circle
257 - Loop at Gul Rd

404 - Loop at Singapore Science Ctr
405 - Loop at Jurong Bird Park
406 - Loop at Chinese/Japanese Gardens

450 - Loop at SAF Training Institute (SAFTI)

Some service changes:
- Service 42: Service withdrawal.
- Service 154: Re-routed to Macpherson Rd & Jln Toa Payoh instead of Upp Aljunied Rd & Braddell Rd
- Service 176: Cutback to Clementi New Town
- Service 178: Re-routed to Upp Bt Timah Rd & Jurong Rd
- Service 183: Amended to New Bridge Rd
- Service 197: New Service from Jurong Int to Geylang Fringe CP
- Service 209: Cutback to C'wealth Ave.

404, 405 & 406 were introduced on 3rd June 1978, while 450 was introduced on 4th June 1978.

SBS8533C SG

I want to say that Vicamour ever told me 159 used DDs before it was amended to ply Lorong Chuan.

And so, is the extension to Sengkang made 159 skip Ave 3 & 6 / ply Ave 8 instead?

Yes..

Gus.chong SG

Thanks, but for the remaining, cos I noticed the routes of the services that plied Tuas / Industrial area had been continuously changing, I think I need more details. And there's 188 as well, I remembered someone saying 188 had never plied Jurong West St 72 & Jurong West Ave 5 in the first place, only after a certain amendment in a certain time then it is amended to ply the two roads.

SBS8533C SG

At Jurong Bus Interchange, during its 12 years of operation, its concourse was upgraded in 1987, with a canteen located upstairs and opened to the general public. A self-refilling point was also installed at Jurong Bus Interchange.

Service 192 was introduced from Jurong Interchange to South Canal terminal but was subsequently withdrawn.

In Jan 1988, there were feedbacks about the Jurong Bus Interchange that is located out of the way, when Boon Lay / Jurong West housing estates were partially developed and furthermore, there would be an MRT station constructed nearby (which is the present Boon Lay MRT Station). The feedbacks draws out positively and proves to be true and Jurong Bus Interchange would move out on 30th June 1990.

With the Jurong West New Town development was ongoing, those relying on feeders will have to travel all the way down to Jurong Bus Interchange to transfer to other bus service or utilise the nearest bus stops for a faster destination. A feasible & convenient bus interchange is called on, during its development stage in the late 1980s, when the MRT was also under construction back then.

(Boon Lay Bus Interchange opens on 1st July 1990).

Before its closure, these are the services that used to ply at the interchange:

10 - To Tampines
30 - To Bedok
98 - Back to Jurong East
154 - To Eunos
157 - To Toa Payoh
165 - To Ang Mo Kio
178 - To Jurong
184 - To Bt Merah
187 - To Bt Panjang
188 - Loop at Jurong West St 91
196 - To Marine Parade
197 - To Geylang Lor 1
199 - Loop at NTI
206 - To Lim Chu Kang
240 - Loop at Boon Lay Gardens
241 - Loop at Teban Gardens
242 - Loop at Kang Ching Rd
244 - Loop at Boon Lay Dr
245 - Loop at Pandan Rd
246 - Loop at 3rd Chin Bee Rd
247 - Loop at Fishery Port Rd
248 - Loop at Neythal Rd
249 - Loop at Jln Samulun
250 - Loop at 6th Lokyang Rd
251 - Loop at Refinery Rd
252 - Loop at Gul Circle
253 - Loop at Benoi Rd
254 - Loop at Tuas Ave 1
255 - Loop at Gul Cres
257 - Loop at Gul Rd
450 - Loop at Pasir Laba Rd
852 - To Yishun (TIBS)
951 - To Marsiling (TIBS)

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