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last SG · 2013-01-11T22:45:38+00:00

Ok mah Citaros full squad.168 DDs surprisingly I dun see standees at the lower deck for now.

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading Observation for s78 at Jurong East Int between 08.00 and 08.30AM

8.02 - 9216L (104p)

8.05 - 3064Y (38p) SWT 78A

8.10 - 8931L (63p)

8.15 - 3221K (38p) SWT 78A

8.20 - 3021X (49p)

8.30 - 9222T (70p)

I think 78A should rather have the KUBs deployed than Wrights. The loading at Clementi for Pandan Ave & Penjuru is quite high and the Wrights may be more useful for doing the full route.

BusAnalayzer SG

Also the 78A poster shows timing from 07.10 to 08.30 but the last service on 78A seems to be at 08.15 AM.

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading on s97 Wright

From: Jurong East Int to PSA Building (Alexandra road). Time: 08.42 AM

Jurong East Int (49pax), Jurong East Central (67pax), German Center (51p: almost 28pax got down here), AYE (before Clementi ave 3, 69p), AYE (before Clementi ave 2 exit, 71p), AYE (before Clementi rd exit, 109p PEAK Loading), ITE Dover (94p), Opp Science Center (67p), Opp Normanton Park (62p), Alexandra rd (44p).

carbikebus SG

How's d loading for 285 nowadays?

carbikebus SG

Let's be utterly honest, SMRT simply doesn't have the resources to commit to 857. How many spare bendies does AMDEP have? WLDEP might be able to spare a few but I think they'd rather keep it for WDL intratowns and feeders.

By making it WAB some time back could have worsened the situation given low floor buses sub optimal standing space. OCs might help but how many units can they spare again? I would think that they are damned aware of the situation just that there is nothing much they can do given their current modus operandi (or perhaps a lack of will).

That's because they choose bendies over DDs in d first place.Secondly if they expand Amdep or shifted to a new bigger depot then 80% of the problem solved

dan474 SG

That's because they choose bendies over DDs in d first place.Secondly if they expand Amdep or shifted to a new bigger depot then 80% of the problem solved

Must shift out of KJ and AM and build 2 new DD friendly depot first... WLDEP now reserved for services with bendies only, services with no perm bendy park at WLBP.

carbikebus SG

Must shift out of KJ and AM and build 2 new DD friendly depot first... WLDEP now reserved for services with bendies only, services with no perm bendy park at WLBP.

Problem is shift where?All I can think is Yio Chu Kang Rd forest where 854/857 ply for Amdep and Jurong Rd where 174 ply for Kjdep

dan474 SG

Problem is shift where?All I can think is Yio Chu Kang Rd forest where 854/857 ply for Amdep and Jurong Rd where 174 ply for Kjdep

but even if want to upgrade the depot, how to upgrade...

BusAnalayzer SG

Must shift out of KJ and AM and build 2 new DD friendly depot first... WLDEP now reserved for services with bendies only, services with no perm bendy park at WLBP.

WLBP and Kranji are DD friendly to start with. SMRT can start small with using these 2 spaces for parking DDs. They just need to get a few more high capacity bus additions. Maybe 100 to start with. Not a 550 Volve Wright order like SBST did.

TIB 501 D SG

B.A. as you requested, the loading for Service 4, 4.11pm, 22/3/2013.

TAM Int- 23

TAM Ave 7- 28, 27, 25, 23, 24, 27

Flora Rd- 17, 14

Upp Changi Rd Nth- 14, 14

Changi Nth St 1- 13

Changi Nth Cres- 17, 22, 26

Changi Nth St 1- 19

Upp Changi Rd Nth- 17

Flora Rd- 18, 34

Loyang Ave- 25

TAM Ave 7- 25, 23, 23, 23, 23, 18

TAM Int- 18

Strangely, IBIS beeps LATE 7 times throughout the whole journey, not even a single "EARLY"...

dan474 SG

maintenance bay at KJ might not be DD friendly...

TIB 501 D SG

A problem though... I don't think they have yet to free up exactly 100 spaces in KJDEP even up till now, although some services were transferred from KJ>WL due to WLDEP having more bendy-friendly features and also to free up KJ's space.

Thus... AM and KJ are not ready to accomodate DDs yet. KJ just needs more space, that's all.

Then again WLDEP... The parking area and some other areas are anti-DD. WLBP is DD-friendly but... those services still have to go to WLDEP for inspection and all sorts of things etc., which means entering the anti-DD WLDEP.

The only depot that can accomodate DDs might be KJ, but I doubt enough spaces have been freed yet... WLBP on the other hand... read the paragraph above this one...

TIB 501 D SG

maintenance bay at KJ not DD friendly i heard...

KJ - Maintainence bay as you said.

WL - Parking area not DD-friendly.

AM - Not enough spaces or something else?

WLBP - Yes, DD friendly, but they still have to go to anti DD WLDEP for checkups and all...

BusAnalayzer SG

Random observation @ Tampines Int 4.05 to 4.25PM on 22/03/13

16.09 - svc72 - 3223E (31p)

16.11 - svc 4 - 6370T (23p) this was the bus TIB501D boarded!

16.13 - 291(E)- 9459C (64p)

16.14 - svc72 - 3171X (20p)

16.15 - 291(E)- 7320G (20p)

16.19 - svc72 - 7414U (28p)

16.20 - svc69 - 9849K (15p)

16.23 - svc37 - 9266S (09p)

16.24 - svc72 - xxxx (xx) was watching svc4 berth, so just saw the DD passing by.

16.24 - svc04 - 6368B (27p)

This random observation was when I was waiting for my colleague and I reached before time to do some observations. My observation on 72 again remain unchanged that in non-peak hours also the frequency from Tampines Int is one bus in every 05 mins. The loading is around 20-30 pax compared to what it used to be before. Guess just too many buses thrown on this service given the peak hour loading, but surprising that off-peak also the frequency is 'awesome'.

BusAnalayzer SG

Another point that I would like to make is svc4 loading is GOOD. Even in off-peak, the bus is taking +20pax at Tampines Int, and if you see the loadings posted by yenwei, TIB501D and myself, I think it is doing better than many other services already.

I am wondering what the Flora rd residents used to do ~ take private operator buses. That must have been expensive + no advantage of change fee to MRT/other bus.

BusAnalayzer SG

B.A. as you requested, the loading for Service 4, 4.11pm, 22/3/2013.

TAM Int- 23

TAM Ave 7- 28, 27, 25, 23, 24, 27

Flora Rd- 17, 14

Upp Changi Rd Nth- 14, 14

Changi Nth St 1- 13

Changi Nth Cres- 17, 22, 26

Changi Nth St 1- 19

Upp Changi Rd Nth- 17

Flora Rd- 18, 34

Loyang Ave- 25

TAM Ave 7- 25, 23, 23, 23, 23, 18

TAM Int- 18

Strangely, IBIS beeps LATE 7 times throughout the whole journey, not even a single "EARLY"...

I was at Tampines Int when 6370T came to the berth, and I counted the 23pax as well. I must have seen you and we must have crossed each other. Cheers!

TIB 501 D SG

I was at Tampines Int when 6370T came to the berth, and I counted the 23pax as well. I must have seen you and we must have crossed each other. Cheers!

I didn't realize that...

carbikebus SG

Kjdep and Amdep lease expired on mid 2014.Aint sure bout Amdep shifting cause its the pioneer depot for TIBS/SMRT.Kjdep will definately go out somewhere.

BusAnalayzer SG

Kjdep and Amdep lease expired on mid 2014.Aint sure bout Amdep shifting cause its the pioneer depot for TIBS/SMRT.Kjdep will definately go out somewhere.

But AMDEP is so small. It should move out to area north of YCK. This way it will also be closer to Yishun Interchange.

TIB 585L SG

But AMDEP is so small. It should move out to area north of YCK. This way it will also be closer to Yishun Interchange.

Or somewhere near the CBD area

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