Double Deckers for SMRT

last SG · 2012-05-05T11:18:10+00:00

There is no need for any DD or Bendy bus for SMRT just normal SD bus will do. increase the frequent of the bus timing will help to make the different. with d...

Gus.chong SG

853????

Old Nissan bus…

Back in the 90s the Nissans were still new.

SBS2601D SG

TIBS did a good job on Yishun routes.

851, 852, 853, 854, 855, 856, 857...

I would single 852 and 855 for wasting my time waiting for them.

Its the equivalent of waiting for 156....or worse, 85.

sbst275 SG

Back in the 90s the Nissans were still new.

towards the end... 853 was often the long forgotten sv

carbikebus SG

It's good if BPJ/CCK/BBT handed over to SBST and let BNV/KRT/BTM/HBF with the exception of 74/10/139/153/65

BusAnalayzer SG

I would single 852 and 855 for wasting my time waiting for them.

Its the equivalent of waiting for 156....or worse, 85.

855 has a pretty good loading. I don't know why the frequency is poor. The good thing is that from Macritchie to Alexandra road, there is 93 in parallel - which too off late has a more than 10 minute frequency.

I want to see DDs on 93 again (at least 2 of them). From the time CCL came, DDs on 93 have become a rarity.

BusAnalayzer SG

Anyone considered having a bendy for 857? I see the loading at Yishun and YCK road is quite heavy during peak hours since it is a express service into CBD.

iveco SG

Perhaps.

The current situation of zoning our little zone has caused some problems with regards to operator flexibility.

And in the case of SMRT, it is clear that it finds it hard to compete with SBST and is disadvantaged inherently from size and coverage.

"Competitive tendering" is supposed to work by making operators bid for routes from LTA. But what is there to bid for when SBST has depots in one area, and SMRT in the other?

But it doesnt absolve SMRT of blame for its fleet woes.

At a time when it can do something about clearing its bendy fleet, its still sitting on the fence!

The fact that SMRT is even considering DD can be construed that the bendy experiment was pretty much a failure.

Consider that if SBST had on the other hand, had as much problems with DDs, with its size and fleet flexibility, it would also have considered bendies in its tenders.

But nope, it didn't.

Because clearly bendies weren't the way to go.

Should divide Singapore into 7 Contract Areas and open them up for bidding.

NW: Bukit Batok/Chua Chu Kang/Bunit Panjang Nth: Woodlands/Sembawang/Yishun NE: Hougang/Sengkang/Punggol East: Geylang/Bedok/Tampines/Pasir Ris Sth: Bukit Merah/CBD/Kallang-Whampoa West: Queenstown/Clementi/Jurong East/Boon Lay Central: Ang Mo Kio/Serangoon/Bishan/Toa Payoh

iveco SG

It's good if BPJ/CCK/BBT handed over to SBST and let BNV/KRT/BTM/HBF with the exception of 74/10/139/153/65

Are you implying that BNV/KRT/MTM/HBF better off under SMRT?

Jason Lim WD SG

Perhaps.

The current situation of zoning our little zone has caused some problems with regards to operator flexibility.

And in the case of SMRT, it is clear that it finds it hard to compete with SBST and is disadvantaged inherently from size and coverage.

"Competitive tendering" is supposed to work by making operators bid for routes from LTA. But what is there to bid for when SBST has depots in one area, and SMRT in the other?

But it doesnt absolve SMRT of blame for its fleet woes.

At a time when it can do something about clearing its bendy fleet, its still sitting on the fence!

The fact that SMRT is even considering DD can be construed that the bendy experiment was pretty much a failure.

Consider that if SBST had on the other hand, had as much problems with DDs, with its size and fleet flexibility, it would also have considered bendies in its tenders.

But nope, it didn't.

Because clearly bendies weren't the way to go.

Considering double deckers does not necessarily mean the other type has sorely failed, my two cents worth.

SBS2601D SG

SBST did not even take a 2nd look at bendies after the trial.

And between the 2 operators, it should be SBST that has the ability to spread its bus type.

Evidently DDs were a superior choice to bendies despite them having an option to have more bus types.

SMRT could have stuck to bendies.

They didn't now.

They are still undecided between DD or bendy. But the mere fact that DDs are now in the equation is unequivocal evidence that bendies are a very inadequete choice.

Very very very VERY clearly.

Bendies failed.

How much clearer do you want it to be?

Like I had mentioned months ago, did you guys honestly think the COI's "brief" negative mention of bendies would go un-noticed?

SBS2601D SG

So what would be the argument?

SMRT stuck to bendies because WDL, YIS, SBW have small roads and high pop density, but SBST area has no small roads and no crowd?

hahahahahahaha

Whoever buys that argument should reflect on what I have mentioned a few pages ago.

SBS8501U SG

SBST did not even take a 2nd look at bendies after the trial.

And between the 2 operators, it should be SBST that has the ability to spread its bus type.

Evidently DDs were a superior choice to bendies despite them having an option to have more bus types.

SMRT could have stuck to bendies.

They didn't now.

They are still undecided between DD or bendy. But the mere fact that DDs are now in the equation is unequivocal evidence that bendies are a very inadequete choice.

Very very very VERY clearly.

Bendies failed.

How much clearer do you want it to be?

Like I had mentioned months ago, did you guys honestly think the COI's "brief" negative mention of bendies would go un-noticed?

I don't see how different you are from SBS1000U.

Read Oceane's comments and debate where you deem wrong:

http://sgforums.com/forums/1279/topics/451761?page=22

Bendies can be reduced but cannot be ditched! They are equally important as double deckers!

SBS8501U SG

So what would be the argument?

SMRT stuck to bendies because WDL, YIS, SBW have small roads and high pop density, but SBST area has no small roads and no crowd?

hahahahahahaha

Whoever buys that argument should reflect on what I have mentioned a few pages ago.

I suggest you go board more SMRT feeder.

SBS2601D SG

I suggest you go board more SMRT feeder.

I dont think you even got the gist of anything that I have said.

When it comes to reading trends and intentions, I honestly think you probably need more practice.

It really is for your good, because that way, you can pre-empt others.

First mover advantage.

And.

I used to live at WDL. Why would I not know the situation?

Happily, I used to live at Tamp too.

When I compare both, I know at once who did a better job.

TIB 501 D SG

Aiya those who want bendies out of SG...

Stand at the interchange for 24 hours, or even go ride on them, then tell me...

sbst275 SG

I suggest you go board more SMRT feeder.

do you realise at the bus hubs bendies also are nowhere better... WTCP bus stop? Lts of feeders 903, 911, 912, 913.. Dun have 900, 901 nia...

sbst275 SG

Need me say the crisscrossing movement at the Temp BPJ BT.. all because of the bendies…

in fact that kind of parking arrangement just to fit 11 bendies is crazy.. They forgot the space they need to turn…

SBS8501U SG

Originally posted by SBS2656X:

Again, please use MICRO VIEW

SBS2601D SG

Again, please use MICRO VIEW

Maybe that was what Bush Jnr was thinking when he thought of "oil" and "Hussein" and "nuke excuse".

The end result is for all to see.

SBS8501U SG

Should bendies be continued to use in SMRT?

Should double deckers be used in SMRT?

At this rate, I do think I will have to go another round of debate here, which I won't want to.

Whether SMRT will go for double deckers and ditch bendies, it is their choice.

If bendies are really to be ditched, good for those who wanted so. We won't say anything.

If bendies are still used, same thing, good for those who wanted so.

As for double deckers, that will be perhaps more unpredictable.

The winner can only be decided once SMRT's choice is revealed. But again, there is no honour in doing so just to win this god damn debate.

Now it's just too early for the results to appear, dun forget the O405G still have a few more years to go, of which the Habits are not refurbished. Nuff said.

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