Daimler delivers largest Asian Citaro order to date (Part 2)

last SG · 2011-10-25T22:05:40+00:00

Please don't. Don't waste such good buses under this kind of company. Rather let other operators who can maintain well buy them. For the sake of goodwill of...

Merczrox SG

Cause the Striders are reaching to the de-registration and lifespan extension stage.

Facepalm..=.=

Merczrox SG

Don't blame him, some Striders really have rotten acceleration after so long.

Haha yeah.

carbikebus SG

By comparison the 7 litres Citaro look powerful than K230UB in terms of Hp/Nm.

6730cc 6 cylinders turbo 282hp/1200nm vs 9300cc 5 cylinders turbo 230hp/1050nm.

SMB228X SG

By comparison the 7 litres Citaro look powerful than K230UB in terms of Hp/Nm.

6730cc 6 cylinders turbo 282hp/1200nm vs 9300cc 5 cylinders turbo 230hp/1050nm.

So SBS and SMRT should get more Citaros not creepy lousy scanias. BC can floor the Citaros very good on expressway but very slow if scania!!

sbst275 SG

So SBS and SMRT should get more Citaros not creepy lousy scanias. BC can floor the Citaros very good on expressway but very slow if scania!!

Floor got wat use? After long time, engine will wear out.. You see the sorry condition of the CW1 & CW2 buses, roaring MAN engine and horribly high rpm but no power no speed.

If your rpm is kept high on expressway, you'll also wear out the engine and incr fuel consumption.

Dunno how to drive, dunno wat's the implication behind still say how good floor the acclerator is...

nfshp253 SG

If SBST is getting more Citaros, I hope they get some with ZF 6-speed trannys instead of the Voiths even though they are incredibly smooth so that cruising at 60km/h will not incur high fuel consumption and give passengers a quieter ride. If only there were 5-speed gearboxes.

sbst275 SG

SBST's Citaro gearbox needs some tuning, the 3rd gear is activated at abt 30km/hr which is too low...

nfshp253 SG

I wonder if the Voiths have the same gear ratios as the Citaros in Germany because I think the local Citaros won't ever be able to pass 65km/h, let alone 70+km/h required on the German roads.

SMB228X SG

Agree from 800 Citaros and Citaro Gs SBS and SMRT should get zf ecolife and ecomat for Citaros and mix of zf and voith for citaro g like when SMRT buy habit!!

Bus Stopping SG

I wonder if the Voiths have the same gear ratios as the Citaros in Germany because I think the local Citaros won't ever be able to pass 65km/h, let alone 70+km/h required on the German roads.

The gear ratios on the transmission are fixed and can't be changed. What could be changed is the final drive ratio on the drive axle. Final drive ratio determines the maximum speed and effective torque of the vehicle.

^tamago^ SG

SBST's Citaro gearbox needs some tuning, the 3rd gear is activated at abt 30km/hr which is too low...

i find SBST's tuning better due to lower idle speed, they really got power at higher revs. maybe your ride the BC wasn't throttling at max?

sbst275 SG

Agree from 800 Citaros and Citaro Gs SBS and SMRT should get zf ecolife and ecomat for Citaros and mix of zf and voith for citaro g like when SMRT buy habit!!

Read the complains abt the LF buses somewhere in FB

sbst275 SG

i find SBST's tuning better due to lower idle speed, they really got power at higher revs. maybe your ride the BC wasn't throttling at max?

but very fuel consuming.. Ever saw the f/c reading as the bus was packed.

Powered_By_CNG SG

By comparison the 7 litres Citaro look powerful than K230UB in terms of Hp/Nm.

6730cc 6 cylinders turbo 282hp/1200nm vs 9300cc 5 cylinders turbo 230hp/1050nm.

Mercedes-Benz Citaro with OM 906 hLA Euro 4/5/EEV = 6374cc 6cyl, 210kW/286hp @ 2200rpm, 1120Nm @ 1200-1600rpm. Fixed geometry turbocharger, Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) and unit injectors.

Mercedes-Benz Citaro or OC 500 LE with OM 457 hLA Euro 4/5/EEV - 11967cc 6cyl, 220kW/299hp @ 2000rpm, 1250Nm @ 1100rpm. Fixed geometry turbocharger, Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) and unit injectors.

Scania K230UB Euro 4 = 8967cc 5cyl, 170kW/230hp @ 1800rpm, 1050Nm @ 1100-1500rpm. Fixed geometry turbocharger, Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) and unit injectors.

Scania K230UB Euro 5/EEV = 9291cc 5cyl, 170kW/230hp @ 1800rpm, 1050Nm @ 1000-1500rpm. Variable geometry turbocharger (VGT), Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) and Extra High Pressure Injection (XPI).

Powered_By_CNG SG

Correct.

On the Citaro with 275/70R x 22.5 tyres, there's a choice of 5.27:1, 5.77:1 and 6.21:1, giving road speed of 99km/h, 90km/h or 84km/h respectively with a Voith DIWA.5 gearbox, or 117km/h, 107km/h or 99km/h respectively with a ZF-EcoLife gearbox. This is assuming that the OM 906 hLA engine is used. Because the OM 457 hLA peaks out at 200rpm lower, the road speeds offered by the above final drive ratios will be slightly lower.

SBS2656X SG

U just only realised that??

The accleration of the Volvo B10M DM/Strider/DM3500 are just awesome
Especially ...
the awesome whistling sound of the DM
the awesome roaring of the Striders
the awesome speed of the DM3500
I love all the B10Ms that served Singapore from 1990s - 2015...
[ Most likely after refurbishment ].
I shall miss them :(
DM3500s are really harder to catch in Hougang area now.
13 of them only...
Sigh...
My only hope lies in 43, 74, 82,103, 107/107M, 156, 159, 161, 165 and a few more...
Sigh... DM3500s are totally extinct especially for 88 and 325...
88 once had 13 DM3500s perming on it.
325 once had regular DM3500 camoes before.
Now, no signs of DM3500s TOTALLY from 88.
Most recent camo to 325 is from SBS2703T.
Now, extinct.
They should just use the striders on 160/170.

sbst275 SG

DM3500 should be used on 160 & 170.. Simply because it's just nice when the RTS is completed or 'did not materialise'...

Acx1688 SG

Mar 18 2012hrs

Spotted 6001J sv31, Marine Parade Rd[opp Tao nan sch] twds Tampines

ACx

SBS 1000U SG

Spotted an unknown Citaro on 403 last Friday.

SinkTel SG

6179 on 196e today.

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