Why Singapore need DDs & why it's impractical to use bendies

last SG · 2012-07-14T10:57:06+00:00

DDs are suitable for express and long distance svcs..

BusAnalayzer SG

Thanks for highlighting that out

i wonder if we should consider 112, 113, 115, 181 and 194 as feeder also

112, 113 are more like intra-town for me, but 115, 181 and 194 are definitely feeders.

BusAnalayzer SG

maybe let SBS operates all trunk routes and SMRTB operates all feeder routes

current SMRTB trunk routes

61, 67, 75, 106, 167, 169, 171, 172, 173, 176, 177, 178, 180, 184, 187, 188, 189, 190, 700, 851, 852, 853, 854, 855, 856, 857, 858, 859, 925, 926, 927, 950, 960, 961, 962, 963, 964, 965, 966, 969, 970, 971E, 975, 980, 981, 985 (46 services)

current SBS feeder routes

222, 225, 228, 229, 231, 232, 235, 238, 240, 242, 243, 246, 249, 251, 252, 254, 255, 257, 261, 262, 265, 268, 269, 272, 273, 275, 282, 284, 285, 291, 292, 293, 315, 317, 325, 333, 334, 335, 354, 358, 359, 372, 400, 401, 402, 403, 405, 410 (48 services)

SMRTB trunk routes hand over to SBS

SBS feeder services hand over to SMRTB

Originally posted by SBS3688Y:

And many people are avoiding those face-to-face seats.

Not an issue of face-to-face as lower deck of DDs are face-to-face too.

Some passengers don't like to face backwards. Imagine a bus design with all the seats backward facing

Those face to face seats are really bad - be it SD or DD.. they are hardly occupied. It is irritating when passengers cannot get in coz the bus is full and at the rear there are these face to face seats that are empty.

But it is a BIG problem for SDs as DDs atleast have many more seats. But imagine in a 31 seater, if your 4 seats get wasted.

TIB1218R SG

112, 113 are more like intra-town for me, but 115, 181 and 194 are definitely feeders.

112 and 113 are former feeder services, 321,322,326 and 327

No_10_Tomas SG

But it is a BIG problem for SDs as DDs atleast have many more seats. But imagine in a 31 seater, if your 4 seats get wasted.

Lower decks of DD are also face-to-face but sideways

don't forget MRT trains too

and older folks normally don't like to sit down immediately on a seat that has just been vacated..there is a health issue behind it...they believe the butts will develop sebaceous cysts

that's why you notice some seats are vacant and the passengers would rather stand besides the vacant seats..that's why it's a waste of space

No_10_Tomas SG

112 and 113 are former feeder services, 321,322,326 and 327

yes..again SBS screwed up their numbering system

they shouldn't use 11X series

Tampines estate had many of their feeder routes (etc, 291, 293, 294, 295, 297) converted to townlink but still retain their 29X series

AEW5001 SG

yes..again SBS screwed up their numbering system

they shouldn't use 11X series

Tampines estate had many of their feeder routes (etc, 291, 293, 294, 295, 297) converted to townlink but still retain their 29X series

they convert it to trunk so that they can earn a few cents more

vicamour SG

why not, feeder routes are less prone to delay

SMRT can't handle their basic services well. No need to let them handle so many services. In the end, commuters are the ones suffering.

TIB1218R SG

yes..again SBS screwed up their numbering system

they shouldn't use 11X series

Tampines estate had many of their feeder routes (etc, 291, 293, 294, 295, 297) converted to townlink but still retain their 29X series

SBST want to suck people's money what , Feeder 321 and 326 became trunk 113, Feeder 322 and 327 became trunk 112..

Feeder 328 now service 101

290 merged with 220 to form 38, 294 and 357 > 3

carbikebus SG

In reality where u see ppl take one end to another for this 113/101?At most 4 bus stops.About sucking $$$ its something like enhancement.If theyre really greedy then 240 will be renumbered and change to trunk svc,More likely ppl take for more than 6 bus stops leh.If i'm the regulator i will change the system like this..

SBST:Choa Chu Kang,Bukit Batok,Tuas,Boon Lay,Jurong East,Clementi,Buona Vista,Kent Ridge,Eunos,Bedok,Tampines,Pasir Ris,Punggol,Sengkang,Hougang,Ang Mo Kio,Bishan,Yio Chu Kang,Whampoa,Toa Payoh.

Depots:Soon Lee,Bukit Batok,Sungei Kadut(New),Braddell,Ang Mo Kio,Hougang,Bedok & Changi

NEL,CCL & Eastern region Line as well as Sengkang/Punggol LRT

SMRT:Woodlands,Yishun,Sembawang,Bukit Panjang,Bukit Merah,Harbourfront and Shenton Way/Marina

Depots:Woodlands(1&2),Mandai & Small bus park near Pasir Panjang

EWL/NSL,DTL & Bukit Panjang LRT

carbikebus SG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Berlin_B9TL_517.jpg

SMRT should consider this but of course with full roof and aircon plus powerful engine if they wanna different from SBST.See the rear door?Its far from usual

carbikebus SG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Reading_Transport_1103.JPG or this with new DSC9 320hp/1600nm

sbst275 SG

The 112 & 113 taiji is more because if you noticed, the last bus coincides w/ the last MRT arrival at Kovan.

But Kovan does not have Int, and it's not operationally practical for last bus from Hougang Central all the way to say Upp Paya Lebar and loop back.

carbikebus SG

Seriously SBST do have their reasons for 112/113.Last time there's Hougang South Int.

carbikebus SG

Seriously SBST do have their reasons for 112/113.Last time there's Hougang South Int.

All SBST Interchanges got feeders but Sembawang Int got feeder or not?882 is trunk leh.

No_10_Tomas SG

As long as the bus travels out of the estate it's considered as trunk liao..regardless of the route? There are some trunk services with ultra-short round-trip routes that are even shorter than residential feeder services.

Sv 6 - total 11.7km - trunk cos it goes to Loyang, which is out of Pasir Ris

Sv 11 - total 6.2km - trunk cos it goes out of Geylang

Sv 42 - total 5.8km - trunk cos kembangan and siglap are two different estates

Sv 84 - total 5.7km - trunk cos Punggol End is considered outside of Punggol estate liao

Sv 91 - total 6.8km - trunk cos Buona Vista and Ayer Rajah are two different estates

Sv 96 - total 6.7km - trunk cos NUS is considered not inside Clementi estate

Sv 112 - total 18.3km - trunk cos Kovan is outside of Hougang?? or route too long?? or Kovan is not considered as residential area??

Sv 113 - total 16.7km - trunk cos Kovan is outside of Hougang?? or route too long??or Kovan is not considered as residential area??

Sv 115 - total 4.7km - trunk ?? don't understand why is it not feeder?? Kovan is not considered as residential area??

Sv 179 - total 9.8km - trunk cos NTU is considered not inside Jurong West estate

Sv 181 - total 6.2km - trunk ?? don't understand why is it not feeder?? Jurong West Ave 3/5 is not considered as residential area??

Sv 191 - total 7.1km - trunk cos Portsdown is not considered inside Buona Vista

Sv 199 - total 11.1km - trunk cos NTU is considered not inside Jurong West estate

Sv 229 - total 9.8km - feeder

Sv 240 - total 15.4km - feeder

Sv 403 - total 7.9km - trunk !! cos Pasir Ris Park is considered not inside Pasir Ris estate??

Sv 410 - total 9.5km - feeder !! Upp Thomson is considered inside Bishan estate??

Sv 882 - total 8.9km - trunk cos Sembawang End is considered outside of Sembawang estate liao

Sv 964 - total 9.9km - trunk cos Woodlands Industrial Estate is not considered as residential

SBS5010P SG