Low floor vs low entry buses

carbikebus SG

LTA cannot set the law by stating that new buses must be fully low floor.Low floor got less standing areas due to its narrow aisle as compared to Low entry buses like the 1st batch B9TL Wrights,CDGE,OCs,B7RLE and KUBs.The LE buses can carry an extra 10 pax during crush loadings as compared with their counterparts.So operators got less choice hence the 2nd/3rd batch Wrights,Citaros and MANs..

SBS6228Y SG

think LTA focuses more on the wheelchair users

Gus.chong SG

Agree with you. I also feel uncomfortable near the exit door when there is not enough standing area.

Gus.chong SG

think LTA focuses more on the wheelchair users

Welcome. But actually I believe the wheelchairs can be still used in buses with the stairs. (in the low-entry buses)

carbikebus SG

Ya,As though the PIW wanna go all d way back.LE is enough.At least 92 ppl can board compared to 75-80

SBS6228Y SG

at the end of the day, as long as the needs of PIW & senior citizens with difficulty in walking/climbing are met then they are happy liao.

have came across an old lady having much difficulty getting onboard a say Mark IV DM.

vicamour SG

Low entry, people complain steps behind, fall down.

Full low floor, people complain narrow aisle.

Sometimes really don't know how to satisfy everyone.

Time has changed, if it is a requirement to buy new buses fully low floor, then just have to accept it.

Bus operators thus have to improve the frequencies or use more double deckers to ease the crowd. I don't like the idea of crash loading, as carrying to many people in the standing area isn't comfortable and safe as well.

SBS6228Y SG

well, that's human nature as they can never be satisfied with what they have

SMB228X SG

Low entry is dangerous a lot of people fall down on steps!!

Citaro is full low floor and the safest bus!!!

sbst275 SG

at the end of the day, as long as the needs of PIW & senior citizens with difficulty in walking/climbing are met then they are happy liao.

have came across an old lady having much difficulty getting onboard a say Mark IV DM.

Seriously PIW is not even affected by any model be it LE or LF.

The thing abt LF also is during peak hrs a bit of standee ppl also find it squeezy alrdy... It's equally difficult for elderly to move about

sbst275 SG

Low entry is dangerous a lot of people fall down on steps!!

Citaro is full low floor and the safest bus!!!

Full low floor??? Then where's the rear tyre axle then???

Alrdy ladies complaining about how pai seh it can be for them to sit there wearing skirt..

Gus.chong SG

Low entry is dangerous a lot of people fall down on steps!!

Citaro is full low floor and the safest bus!!!

Are you sure the Citaros are full low floor? If so then how to support the back of the bus???

Gus.chong SG

Full low floor??? Then where's the rear tyre axle then???

Alrdy ladies complaining about how pai seh it can be for them to sit there wearing skirt..

That's why. No buses can be made full low floor at all.

Powered_By_CNG SG

Ummm... The Citaro *IS* a full low floor bus. The rear axle is of a drop-centre or "portal" type which means that the centre of the axle is lowered in order to provide space for the low floor. In contrast, the OC 500 LE has a rigid rear axle which requires a stepped bus interior. Any ramping of full low floor buses due to the mechanicals is generally negligible and the only steps that exist are immediately adjacent to the seats in the rear third of the bus..

Gus.chong SG

Look at the back of the bus. You had to walk up one step to get to the back row, is that still able to be considered as a full low floor bus?

SBS6228Y SG

The Citaros are known as a through low-floor bus, the aisle of the Citaro is flushed flat from the front of the bus to the back.

Powered_By_CNG SG

The Citaros are known as a through low-floor bus, the aisle of the Citaro is flushed flat from the front of the bus to the back.

As I said above: the only steps that exist on a full low floor bus are immediately adjacent to the seats in the rear third of the bus.

SBS3688Y SG

personally I still prefer LE bus than fully low floor bus (except Wrights). I still prefer climbing that bit of steps on a LE bus than climbing onto the seats on the fully low floor bus. A LE bus is more spacious and can accomodate more standing pax. As the seats and aisle on the higher part of a LE bus is generally level, seating is much more comfortable than fully low floor bus configuration.

carbikebus SG

@Vicamour,It's not about unhappy but rather about the configuration on the bus itself.Although low floor buses are generally 12m but once 50 pax inside it look like you're on a 10.5m bus!I do agree LE buses are quite dangerous due to its step at the rear but again the interior look more wider.I only hope if a LF perm on heavy loading svc the freq should be more better during peak.

SMB128B SG

Full low floor??? Then where's the rear tyre axle then???

Alrdy ladies complaining about how pai seh it can be for them to sit there wearing skirt..

y pai seh?