All I want for 2012

last SG · 2011-12-25T14:18:37+00:00

Probably SMRT should buy some more Citaros to replace the Mercedes-Benz O405 once they go off in 2013.SMRT should also buy some more MANs too.

Edd1 SG

What I want for 2012:

1. A few more Citaros to KJDEP.

2. 10 BYD K9 buses SMRT ordered earlier in June this year.

3. SMRT to introduce WAB bendy buses such as Volvo B9LA or Mercedes-Benz Citaro G.

4. Deploy MAN buses to perm on Service 61, 67, 172, 190, 307 and 858.

5. Service 67, 190, 852 and 963 to be the next WAB services.

61 have MAN perm alr.

Edd1 SG

- SBST to buy more double deckers, and of other makes, like Volvo B9TL with Enviro 500 body, Alexander Dennis Enviro 500, MAN Lioncity double decker, and maybe a Mercedes Benz Citaro double decker specially for SBST.

- SBST to get more hybrid demostrators from European makes like Volvo B5L, 7700, Mercedes Benz Citaro, MAN LionCity, Irisbus Citelis

- SBST to get more full low floor single decker buses like Mercedes Benz Citaro 3, Volvo B9RLE, MAN LionCity, Irisbus Citelis, Alexander Dennis Enviro 300, etc

- SBST to introduce more services to the north and northwest and an express airport service from the west and a city service to Punggol. More bus services parallel to MRT lines as MRT is not reliable. Maybe extend 11 to Eunos, 76 and 162 to Yishun.

- Deploy Citaros to services like 36, 39, 85, 162.

- Faster trips for some SBST services (e.g. 72, 81, 196) although generally many of them are already faster. Further optimise frequencies of some services as well.

- Preserve a Volvo Olympian 2xles in SBST HQ as part of remembering the last non air con bus in Singapore.

- LTA and SMRT to fully ban new bendy buses and SMRT to bring in double deckers in future, probably from MAN. Reintroduce double deckers to 190.

- SMRT to remove the in board annoucements in their new buses like the Citaros and MAN. Damn irritating and unnecessary.

- SMRT to deregister the Dennis Lance, Scania L113s, Nissan UDs and DAFs by early 2012 and all replaced by MANs.

Dude.....SBST currently have orders for the wrights and citaros this is sufficient already to replace the buses who are gonna deregister as well as SMRT.

I disagree LTA and SMRT to fully ban from buying Bendies...Bendies have its uses also more capacity and it's better than DD.

SMRT have announced to deregister Dennis Lance,Nissan UDs,Hino...DAF and Scania have extension lifespan..

Whats with the citaro again?I rather SBST deploy citaros on low demand services than high demand services 36,39 162 demands are quite high.

Dude...In the north have SMRT alr.

Currently SBST have enough buses alr.No need more demostrators

SBS 1000U SG

Dude.....SBST currently have orders for the wrights and citaros this is sufficient already to replace the buses who are gonna deregister as well as SMRT.

I disagree LTA and SMRT to fully ban from buying Bendies...Bendies have its uses also more capacity and it's better than DD.

SMRT have announced to deregister Dennis Lance,Nissan UDs,Hino...DAF and Scania have extension lifespan..

Whats with the citaro again?I rather SBST deploy citaros on low demand services than high demand services 36,39 162 demands are quite high.

Dude...In the north have SMRT alr.

Currently SBST have enough buses alr.No need more demostrators

You have look further towards the Volvo Olympians that are going to be deregistered within the next few years.

Sorry, bendy buses takes up too much space, causing too much jams and delays along bus stops, bus depots and bus interchanges. Double deckers can do a better job with half the space it occupies. It will be a smart move by SMRT to switch to double deckers in the long run.

High demand services coupled with better frequncies can still use buses like the B10Ms and Citaros.

SMRT doesn't do a very good job in providing bus services in the north and northwest. SBST can chip in to help to provide more links to other parts of Singapore.

SBST needs more demostrators for evaluating future fleet purchases and looking into green technologies. What are you talking about???

sinicker SG

Do you even take 72.....

Its slow. TERRIBLY slow. I switched to 88 simply because I cannot stand the lousy night-time frequency with the slow speed. Taking train then 88 to get to Hougang from Tampines is actually faster!

The following services need to slow down....169, 969, 853! Particularly 169.

it's TERRIBLY slow.

my sarcastic reply was utmost sarcastic because i just came home after taking the last 72 bus home & reading such a reply from Captain Obvious makes it worse. I make no apologies to Edd1 for his comments.

last night was so slow that if the bus were to hit a tree, both bus & tree will suffer NO damage.

if service 100 could revise their last bus timings along the route, i don't see why 72 can't.

sinicker SG

72's night time run time 58 mins?

50 mins will be comfortable..... considering there was once we took 6mins from last stop to interchange. crawling.

Edd1 SG

You have look further towards the Volvo Olympians that are going to be deregistered within the next few years.

High demand services coupled with better frequncies can still use buses like the B10Ms and Citaros.

SMRT doesn't do a very good job in providing bus services in the north and northwest. SBST can chip in to help to provide more links to other parts of Singapore.

SBST needs more demostrators for evaluating future fleet purchases and looking into green technologies. What are you talking about???

SBST DDs

SMRT Bendies

I suggest that citaros can deploy on all feeder services then others to the trunk services like 165,196,93 and also DDs for 96.

SMRT have already taken the north side so even..If you can just suggest new routes to SMRT.

VO batch 1 deregistering next year Batch 2 deregistering @ 2013-2015 while batch 3 is 2016-2017..SBST will buy buses within either 2-3 years?before the old buses is gonna deregister.

For bendies.yes it takes alot of place but it's still good because of capacity,it's a trademark for SMRT but bendies are faster than the DDs.

C151 039/040 SG

You have look further towards the Volvo Olympians that are going to be deregistered within the next few years.

High demand services coupled with better frequncies can still use buses like the B10Ms and Citaros.

SMRT doesn't do a very good job in providing bus services in the north and northwest. SBST can chip in to help to provide more links to other parts of Singapore.

SBST needs more demostrators for evaluating future fleet purchases and looking into green technologies. What are you talking about???

Volvo Olympian 2-Axles will be de-registered first, then Leyland Olympians (2012 - 2013), then Volvo Olympian 3-Axles (2013 - 2014), then Volvo Olympian 3-Axle Batch 2 (2014 - 2016), then Volvo Olympian 3-Axle Batch 3 (2017 - 2019)

SBS 1000U SG

SBST DDs

SMRT Bendies

I suggest that citaros can deploy on all feeder services then others to the trunk services like 165,196,93 and also DDs for 96.

SMRT have already taken the north side so even..If you can just suggest new routes to SMRT.

VO batch 1 deregistering next year Batch 2 deregistering @ 2013-2015 while batch 3 is 2016-2017..SBST will buy buses within either 2-3 years?before the old buses is gonna deregister.

For bendies.yes it takes alot of place but it's still good because of capacity,it's a trademark for SMRT but bendies are faster than the DDs.

Looking into the feasibility of usage of types of buses based on infrastructures, traffic flows, and cost of operating, and not operate based on trademark for company.

Bendies put SMRT operations into a very bad shape, overcrowded depots, jamming of roads/bus stops/bus interchanges which delays timings of other buses and all passengers, burned buses which decrease fleet counts, etc. Anyway, other than 190 and poor frequency services, bendies are not fully utilised all the times and takes up twice road space as a double decker and single decker.

Thus it will be a smart move for SMRT to switch to double deckers and no bendies in the long run.

As for more bus services in the north side, SMRT can't even provide better bus services over there after such a long time. They do not have enough resources to even improve the current ones they have. Somemore they are facing a lot of shit on the recent MRT breakdowns. Go improve their MRT first. Let SBST contribute some bus service improvements over there.

Edd1 SG

Looking into the feasibility of usage of types of buses based on infrastructures, traffic flows, and cost of operating, and not operate based on trademark for company.

Thus it will be a smart move for SMRT to switch to double deckers and no bendies in the long run.

It's already impossible SBST contribute at the northern side since the upcoming simpang new town SMRT is taking over.

Double deckers is a trouble for SBST...overcrowding so i rather SMRT still use bendies than using DDs but somehow DDs and bendies have its own good points and bad points so you can't say smrt didn't make full use of bendies they are just reserves.But please,don't be so prejuiced to bendies,double deckers also have it own bad point..you think,if SMRT bought DDs deployed on 190 and other high demands services,will it solve the problem?no definitely not.Bendies delays?think properly the reason why it delays time...becuase WE singaporeans taking our own sweet time to board on the bus.thats why i cause delays.

sinicker SG

Service 72 Trip Report

Blk 917 Hg Ave 9 Tampines Int - 36mins 16s 2140 - 2216hrs

GPS switched on from KPE traffic junction to right turn from Tampines Link to Ave 10.

Total Time : 11mins 11s (my fastest ever was 6 mins flat, also on 72)
Maximum Speed Reached (not maintained) : 48km/h

SBS 1000U SG

It's already impossible SBST contribute at the northern side since the upcoming simpang new town SMRT is taking over.

SBST don't have to contribute all services over there but introduce a few more services over there. Please don't confuse.

Overcrowding, are you sure??? If so, it goes the same for bendies as well since they carry only around 10 more passengers than a normal double decker. Overcrowding happens when the frequency of buses isn't so good for the service and/or no supplementary services to support or divert the demand. At least for sure, double deckers don't take up extra space in small bus stops and don't cause delays for sure.

If SMRT use double deckers for 190, think of how many buses behind can stop in the bus bay instead of 2 bendy buses hogging the bus bay and bus stops??? Sorry but I had seen and experience many times that these bendy buses causing delay to other buses behind and jams up traffic junctions and busy roads. Think of how many more higher capacity buses that SMRT can buy if they choose double deckers over bendies, based on the space that their bus depots have. Many services like 980, 960, 190, 851 can easily have their overcrowding problems solved with more higher capacity buses they own. So SMRT should seriously consider converting to double deckers to provide better bus services.

As for your last point, even if it is not the fault of the Singaporeans, then how about those faulty EZ link card readers or tourists asking for directions???

SBS2601D SG

it's TERRIBLY slow.

last night was so slow that if the bus were to hit a tree, both bus & tree will suffer NO damage.

if service 100 could revise their last bus timings along the route, i don't see why 72 can't.

This person claims SBST DDs are trouble...

So my response hence forth would be....

whatever.

I mean, after all, SBST serves my area and I'm glad for that. I won't swop my 88 DDs for anything in the world.

72 is the worst crawler I've seen. The amount of time I wasted when I took this service is disgusting. Coupled with the huge night-time crowd + lousy frequency makes it the nightmare service.

I should also add that just about any bus transferred to 72 becomes junk in a short while. Its a strange phenomenon seriously.

SBS2601D SG

It's already impossible SBST contribute at the northern side since the upcoming simpang new town SMRT is taking over.

People tend to also forget that TIBS accounts for some if not most of SMRT's woes today. Just look at how the buses were purchased. It makes replacement a nightmare.

SBS1869E SG

it's TERRIBLY slow.

last night was so slow that if the bus were to hit a tree, both bus & tree will suffer NO damage.

I COMPLETELY AGREE that 72's timetable needs to be revised.

It is one of the slowest services I have ever taken. The drivers never/rarely exceed 50km/h even when the road is clear. Best part is that driving at such a slow speed they still end up early (red light on the DDU).

109's timetable might also need to be revised - it almost always ends up early at Serangoon Int and the ride there is torturously slow sometimes. Double-deckers could come in handy during peak hours when the load is so high riding on the bus can become dangerous.

I'd also like to see a KUB on 103 :)

sbst275 SG

Dun believe the DDU la..

Seriously I think max 58 mins is actually enough for 72...

sinicker SG

Dun believe the DDU la..

Seriously I think max 58 mins is actually enough for 72...

you give 70 mins also the 72 bus drivers "will make it enough" with their driving.

SBS2601D SG

I COMPLETELY AGREE that 72's timetable needs to be revised.

I'd also like to see a KUB on 103 :)

I think 109's case is due to fleet add.

When it first started its frequency was horrible and the buses go quite fast.

Same story with 161, now the frequency is good (very good) and the buses have slowed.

SBS1869E SG

you give 70 mins also the 72 bus drivers "will make it enough" with their driving.

HAHA nice one might as well give 72 minutes! Same as the route number.

SBS2601D SG

My plea is for 74 to kick its SDs out....it should have a zero SD fleet seriously.

SBS1869E SG

I think 109's case is due to fleet add.

When it first started its frequency was horrible and the buses go quite fast.

Same story with 161, now the frequency is good (very good) and the buses have slowed.

If they make the buses run faster, they can effectively remove the number of buses on the route right? Might be more complicated than this haha.

The frequency can sometime fluctuate a lot - at the bus stop near my house it can range from 5 minutes to 20 minutes... but I have never seen 2 109s coming at the same time!

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