Pax standing on premium bus services

phillipC SG

Ok. rest my case.

But we like to compare.. SMRT 971E and Transcity 722 can do it, so we assume SBST can do it too.

I think it all boils down to the drivers (cheongster or not, just my 2 cents)

sbst275 SG

Ok. rest my case.

But we like to compare.. SMRT 971E and Transcity 722 can do it, so we assume SBST can do it too.

I think it all boils down to the drivers (cheongster or not, just my 2 cents)

seriously how much can you chiong during peak hours?

chiong is chiong, there's still safety.

SBS3688Y SG

If I’m not wrong, Premium svcs are designed to cater to pax who are willing to pay more for a faster and direct journey and yet be able to get a seat. The creation of Premium svcs is also aimed to encourage more car owners give up driving to work and use public transport instead. Otherwise, if still got to stand, can we still persuade more car owners to give up their luxury for public transport? Its already difficult to simply persuade these people to use public transport.

I agree that it doesn’t make sense to strictly stop Premium pax from boarding once all the seats are filled. But if it happens too often or even serious, then something is wrong.
Alternatively, such overcrowded Premium svcs should be downgraded to Express svcs instead. Express svcs can still provide the same service as Premium svcs, except it costs lower than Premium but able to accept standing pax.

SBS3688Y SG

only solution to prevent ppl standing on PBS is, convert into DDs or bendies or add more trips lor

or simply downgrade to Express svc.

sinicker SG

i took evening trip for 531 last friday.

there were 6 standees. but there were 2 vacant seats in the Citaro.

now... do you want the SL to force them to sit? "harloe! SIT DOWN!"

like primary school bus driver....

Fryderyk HPH SG

I hope LTA doesn't force SBS Transit Limited's Premium svc to be downgauged to Express svcs. I want my sustained dividends...

sbst275 SG

SBS has been getting better profits because they do things like proper scheduling

sbst275 SG

fry, fare diff bet Premium is likely to be $1.30 - $1.40 per pax if we do not incl x-fer cases.

But a bus can carry say 20 - 25 more ppl?

sbst275 SG

but then again

these ppl take Premium because they want e seats

Fryderyk HPH SG

SBS has been getting better profits because they do things like proper scheduling

There is a thread about FY2010 results in this forum...
I did some calculations. Go there later to analyse and I need to x-check some info.

SBS 1000U SG

SBST is simply taking advantage of using the "premium" bus catergory. Why not they use the "Express" catergory, like 971E, which arrives at the city earlier than 555.

Hallo, there is services like Fast Forward 10e, 14e, 30e, 74e, 97e, 89e, 151e, 174e, adn 196e on top of 502, 506 and 518.

I think SMRT is taking advantage more on using the Premium bus category, introducing useless services like 570.

May-yuen SG

Ermm, correct me if im wrong but isnt the driver supposed to prevent people from getting on these Premium services when all seats are taken ?

sinicker SG

Ermm, correct me if im wrong but isnt the driver supposed to prevent people from getting on these Premium services when all seats are taken ?

yes, black and white, you are correct nonetheless.

but, say you are that person... who already woke up 30mins later compared to taking the feeder service and then the MRT because you want to take the premium service... but now, the BC tells you that no, you can't board the bus.

now, will you oblige with the BC's instructions... or LLST, BC understands your plight and stand inside? because you cant be raking up $20+ in cab fare.. or take the feeder bus and train.. you'll be late for work...

how to tackle this issue.....

May-yuen SG

Hahahaha.. rite.. Haha, i’ve never taken these bus services so that was simply application of theory in my head. Crowd control can be a b** , esp at 7am in the morning ..Haha.

Actually why not just add more buses then ?

SBS 1000U SG

Hahahaha.. rite.. Haha, i’ve never taken these bus services so that was simply application of theory in my head. Crowd control can be a b** , esp at 7am in the morning ..Haha.

Actually why not just add more buses then ?

If there is need to add more buses, they will. Currently all buses and resources used for Premium services are buses and BCs used for trunk services, no dedicated buses and BCs just for these services.

Resource is a major concern here, especially peak hours where more buses are needed to handle the crowds.

sbst275 SG

SBST is simply taking advantage of using the "premium" bus catergory. Why not they use the "Express" catergory, like 971E, which arrives at the city earlier than 555.

There are strict codes bet PBS & Express Sv.

PBS can only serve a max of around 10 stops and they would have to head to destination.

I think SMRT is real expert, applied for some 60 PBS in total but none are implemented. Routes like to PSA Bldg.

Any case, the higher fare is alrdy supposed to make up for the loss in revenue w/o taking standee on pov of PTO

Acx1688 SG

TS, if the standees are not even making noise, your point is?!
Do note LTA will not penalise bus operator if there are one or two standees...
I see your concern about the standees on PBS so why not you raise it directly to LTA, bus operators so that they can take action?!
By lamenting the state of PBS in SG in this forum will not solve the crux of the problem if you are sincere in solving a matter.

ACx

Acx1688 SG

TS, fyi, some kind soul by the name 蔡顺庆 has written in zaobao 交流
优质巴士服务不再优质了
story in brief: SMRT 590 has more passengers, SD convert to bendy but people still standing on Bendy, wants SMRT to deploy more Bendy on 590

ACx

sinicker SG

lol!

at least ask for one bendy, one rigid lah. this one ask str8 two bendy.

sbst275 SG

1 bendy can only carry like 13 more pax.

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