Free Shuttle Bus Sv list

last SG · 2010-09-10T21:47:22+00:00

Then stop increasing the population, Singapore cannot afford to cater the needs for the increasing population. We are good enough with 4 million people in Si...

sbst275 SG

Hence, they come up with a veyr good excuse that this can decrease number of people to go there and bet. CRAP!!! 60% of people utilise it for USS. And Gov also 'disallows' Singaporeans to go there and bet. Mainly for PRs, tourists to do so.

as long as you hold a blue IC, still nid to pay $100

TIB657M SG

still gotch loophole.. 188R & 963R wat

For people who board from HBF to RWS?

sbst275 SG

For people who board from HBF to RWS?

DBTF applies for 188R & 963R... no nid of tat $1 admisson fee

TIB657M SG

Government's 2 ways to attract tourists to RWS:

1. From Changi Airport to RWS

2. From Johor Baharu to RWS

I think the reason is simple: Snatch the business from Resort World Genting.

sbst275 SG

Government's 2 ways to attract tourists to RWS:

1. From Changi Airport to RWS

2. From Johor Baharu to RWS

I think the reason is simple: Snatch the business from Resort World Genting.

Genting's biz is alrdy affected by our 2 IRs.. If else why would Genting been so interested when e govt gave e green light back in 2005?

From JB <> MBS/ RWS would have 2 svs from each sides...

Singapore Operated

1) Kota Raya II <> Newton. 2) Kota Raya II <> RWS. 3) Kota Raya II <> MBS. 4) Kota Raya II <> Changi Airport.

Malaysia Operated

1) Kota Raya II <> RWS. 2) Kota Raya II <> MBS. 3) Kota Raya II <> Yishun. 4) Kota Raya II <> Boon Lay.

tranquilice SG

I guess it's a look see approach, especially 188R & 963R's demand is mostly up to HBF and return leg there's no stable loading.

Dun forget RWS68 is as good as miscarriage.

RWS68 is the one from Outram Park MRT, correct? Now TS8 takes the business.

tranquilice SG

Actually the real reason is our government want us to take SMRT services to RWS. It's due to the relationship between SMRT and Temasek Holdings. Our government eyes turn sore red when it sees so many taking the free shuttle.

tranquilice SG

Govt message is very clear.

"You people want to enter Sentosa without paying a single cent?"

"In your DREAMS!"

The $2 entrance fee is not even worth a peanut to Singaporeans.

If not for the universal studios and casino, no Singaporeans will bother to go Sentosa.

TIB657M SG

The $2 entrance fee is not even worth a peanut to Singaporeans.

If not for the universal studios and casino, no Singaporeans will bother to go Sentosa.

Don't forget, they will go there for one-day outing due to good scenaries over there, especially my classmates etc...

TIB657M SG

Other than North West Areas and City Hall, the free shuttle does not really duplicate with the SMRT RWS services. The government should not have make this decision precisely, they can convert from free shuttle services to flat fare services instead. Due to gov's wrong move, the rice bowl of BCs had been affected greatly.

There is no difference either SMRT or other companies earn revenue at RWS as long as the gov benefits afterall.

tranquilice SG

There is no difference either SMRT or other companies earn revenue at RWS as long as the gov benefits afterall.

If the free services are converted to flat fare services, how many will still want to take them? For sure there will be a drop in the numbers of passengers.

I heard on the news that the bus operators are going to retrench about 100 bus drivers.

vicamour SG

Originally posted by jayh272416:

Best way is to vote PAP out in the next election.

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Fully agreed! These people are only practising double standards, deceving Singapore and Singaporeans for their own benefits.

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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:

It is still better to get your own car.

I still want to buy my own car when I can afford to buy one in future.

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I agree with you. Private transport is still the way to go to avoid all those unnecessary frustrations caused by public transport woes, which are in fact fully controlled by the government.

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Originally posted by tranquilice:

Our very smart government want to increase population to 6.5 millions. But then recently there's even a smarter one, he's the ex-chief of HDB and URA, he said Singapore has no problem accomodating 7.5 millions.

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Such people really deserve a kick in the butt, since they do not really use their brains while formulating policies to bring real benefits to the society.

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Originally posted by dave101:

Govt message is very clear.

"You people want to enter Sentosa without paying a single cent?"

"In your DREAMS!"

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Welfare for foreigners only, so called welfare for its own citizens. It won't be surprising if we see another group of Singaporeans leaving this country in time to come.

More good years ahead!

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Originally posted by phillipC:

All I can say is we have a bunch of bird brain policy formulated people on the top...... who knows nothing about the civilian life.....

One good example, is for LTA to take over the Centralised Bus Planning .... see what constructive works have they done to our congested bus services... nothing.. Only push the blame on the route congestion and need to do away with long haul bus route.

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It is a disaster that LTA to be taking over the Centralised Bus Planning. Now it will get more inconvenient to go around places in Singapore via public transport.

What's more good we can get from these people up there anyway since the past 10 years? More foreigners, more GST, more ERP, more expensive cars and housing, less personal space, less jobs, less pay, less freedom, etc.

These pea brained people will forever think that Singaporeans are taking these free shuttle bus services just for crowding into the casino and gambling, while the Universal studios theme park, MBS hotels and shopping malls will be empty because all Singaporeans just go to casinos. What an insult to Singaporeans. So the shopping malls, hotels and theme park are not the main attractions to Singaporeans at all? Then what for build them in the first place? Why do we see so many Singaporeans go to these places for leisure then?

Just hope one day, both casino operators will be so angry with all these limitations in their business here and pull out their operations in Singapore one day. Let's see what these pea brained people are going to say.

And because of their nonsensical and abrupt approach of doing things, look at the newspapers today, how much private bus operators have lost? And how many Singaporeans are going to be out of job just because of this? Building these integrated resorts will bring more benefits to Singaporeans, what a pack of lies.

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Originally posted by tranquilice:

Originally posted by phillipC:

It will be another story if SMRT is the operator of the free services. Govt wants to earn the money themselves rather for the private operators.

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Please for the greater good for Singaporeans, let's hope SMRT will lose more money in future, get de listed from SGX, and close its operations and pass the operations to a truly private company, with zero linkage with the government.

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Originally posted by TIB657M:

There is no difference either SMRT or other companies earn revenue at RWS as long as the gov benefits afterall.

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Just look at today's paper, how many Singaporeans are going to be affected and how our local companies have to bear such losses.

If these services really affect Sinagporeans going to RWS, then SMRT should withdraw RWS8 and RWS88 too.

Just by looking at this episode, we can seriously reflect how badly the transportation system is being managed here. I seriously doubt that there is hardly any competition for this industry here as private operators are time to time again given a cold shoulder when trying to operate bus services here. Looking forward for a 3rd transport operator here, I think it will be almost impossible as this will only mean jepardising the revenues of the government, which instead another foreign operator should bring more benefits to the commuters instead. Thus they make it very hard for private operators to enter the tightly controlled market time to time again.

Double standards.

ditzy SG

Next thing you know, those heartland shuttle services will come back, but managed by SBST, or SMRT, and won't be free.

tranquilice SG

According to the evening newspapers today, the 5 bus operators providing the RWS shuttles have invested a total of $2,000,000 to buy new buses and to hire bus drivers.

With the sudden enforcement by the government, the money are going to the drains. An estimated 100 bus drivers will lost their jobs.

All thanks to the government!

SBS Transit and SMRT SG

Politics

ditzy SG

All that money gone just because some grassroots leader brought the issue up to his MP, and then MCYS. I doubt anyone else made noise about those buses till then. He must think every farking person on those buses must be going to gamble like that. That's what the $100 and $2000 levy is for mah.

There are people who go to RWS for the entertainment, food, and free transport to the sentosa, not to forget some of the coaches that ply to malaysia also.

Geez, so much for promoting sentosa to singaporeans.

sbst275 SG

RWS68 is the one from Outram Park MRT, correct? Now TS8 takes the business.

yeap.

It was supposed to be $1.80 flat fare, to be intro in March/ April aft IR 'fully' open.

I guess e RWS88 effect & 188R/ 963R's realistic demand to RWS itself excl Vivo made SMRT think twice.

sbst275 SG

There is no difference either SMRT or other companies earn revenue at RWS as long as the gov benefits afterall.

no pt seriously.

SMRT also gotta spend more $$ n resources, there's still a basic cost incurred. Tat same goes to SBS or other PTOs.

Not to mention for RWS8 esp, outbound is FOC. For all we may know, ppl take monorail into Sentosa being faster than RWS8, return take RWS8. There's tis possibility tat cannot be discounted.

sbst275 SG

According to the evening newspapers today, the 5 bus operators providing the RWS shuttles have invested a total of $2,000,000 to buy new buses and to hire bus drivers.

With the sudden enforcement by the government, the money are going to the drains. An estimated 100 bus drivers will lost their jobs.

All thanks to the government!

bigger domino effect.

Those PRC buses would end up have to lelong out. Furthermore w/ so many diff PRC bus brands and dist, sure end up likely occurance of cessation of selling buses to S'pore to occur.

Then those current users who might need spare parts for bigger overhaul will also get affected.

tranquilice SG

Politics

Yes, all these are politics.

I don't understand why PAP is doing this before the election. In fact, if they want to they should do it after the election.

Now PAP is in damage control mode, but they are doing more damages to Singaporeans and coming out with bullshits and lame excuses with their millions dollar salary.

Do we want this type of political party to govern Singapore for another 50 years? First thing we can do is to vote alternate parties into parliament to deny PAP the two-third majorty at this coming election.

Malaysians have done it, are Singaporeans ready?

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