SBS Transit trials Scania K310UD

last SG · 2010-03-26T18:29:25+00:00

Engine mount changed would likely mean the mountings (with vibration absorbing paddings) changed. An engine cannot change its mounting angle/position anyway...

jayh272416 SG

Great! All issues and criticisms about Scania buses are pointless rantings and whining so let's just praise how wonderful these buses are. SBS Transit will then assume there are no issues and go on to order 700 K310UDs and 200 more K230UBs with Gemilang. Isn't that just fantastic news?

Yup! More firewood, or rather fireplastic.

TIB1224Y SG

Some mess to clear…

Misconception: Scania K series buses vibrate cause their engines are mounted 30 degrees/temporary position.
Truth: K series uses upright engines as opposed to the L series.

Disc brakes are used instead of drum brakes and used properly will not jepoardise braking. Cars use them as well and braking is more efficient.

Engine brake is actually quite weak on the Scania K. Strong retarder (this used instead of the term engine brake) is like the OC.

^tamago^ SG

I ever took 854 before.

chiong one, immediately move off floor accerlerator riao.

this is a secto where routes from both companies really can compete

smrt3099 SG

Some posts above are just seems OT to K310

vicamour SG

Just want to read more information about this demo, so stop all those pages of meaningless debate and flamings and get back to topic. Thanks.

To thread starter, any pictures of the bus?

SGCar SG

I believe the detail of pics are yet to be allow to published. Wait and see whether will it be deploy on any services then official pics can be release.

Cheers.

SBS7322B SG

You underestimate the KUBs....151's KUBs climb the hills at NUS pretty well. But IMO, the eye-opener must be the B9TL. The B9TL climbs faster than say....the MKIIIs and the MKIV DMs. In fact, its the MKIV DMs (the ZF ones) that struggle more than the MKIIIs. The Voith MKIV DMs are marginally faster than the MKIIIs.

The one I cannot trust to climb these hills would be the VOs. Fortunately none has passed through that area....yet. At least as far as I know.

IMO, the one that has the least difficulty for the NUS services would be the MKIV DM3500.....really no sweat.

It will only spoil the B9TLs. Have you seen the condition of 7313C, 7318P and 7466U?

vicamour SG

I believe the detail of pics are yet to be allow to published. Wait and see whether will it be deploy on any services then official pics can be release.

Cheers.

Official pictures in the official presses might be most unlikely, just like the Volvo B7RLE and MAN 18.240HOCL demos. This is an interesting addition, after the Scania BR112H double decker in the 1980s. Curious is, why was it acquired by SBS in the 1980s since it was a second hand bus from a UK bus co.?

But since it is registered, it should be out in a week or 2.

But hopefully this will be the only demo, since it is only EURO 4. And I have not heard of a EURO 5 K310UD. It will be quite contradicting for SBST to buy EURO 4 buses, since they have already moved up the trend to get EURO 5 buses. Hopefully more EURO 5 Volvo B9TLs.

SGCar SG

But since it is registered, it should be out in a week or 2.

Yeah B9TL Wright on the way, did SBST announced whether it should be a Euro4 or Euro5? Was quite surprise that KUD is only a Euro4.

Cheers.

vicamour SG

Yeah B9TL Wright on the way, did SBST announced whether it should be a Euro4 or Euro5? Was quite surprise that KUD is only a Euro4.

Cheers.

So far the K310UD is only known to be EURO 4 versions. Even the KMB ones are EURO 4.

But rather SBS Transit should use East Lancs or Wright for this demo, rather than Gemilang, since GBP is now lower.

Anyway, not just Wright, but hope to see Enviro 500 bodied Volvo B9TLs.

sgbuses SG

So far the K310UD is only known to be EURO 4 versions. Even the KMB ones are EURO 4.

But rather SBS Transit should use East Lancs or Wright for this demo, rather than Gemilang, since GBP is now lower.

Anyway, not just Wright, but hope to see Enviro 500 bodied Volvo B9TLs.

I suppose it is cheaper to assemble locally/in Malaysia? Haven't seen any purchase from Alexander Dennis since the Trident 3s.

SBS7382C SG

I suppose it is cheaper to assemble locally/in Malaysia? Haven't seen any purchase from Alexander Dennis since the Trident 3s.

SBST trying to cut cost?

Yusry SG

The latest 310 bhp Scania engines are rated Euro IV.

For Euro V, the equivalent engine is rated at 320 bhp.

As such, the highest emission rating the K310UD can go is Euro IV. SBS Transit would have to get the K320UD if they want Euro V.

sgbuses SG

The latest 310 bhp Scania engines are rated Euro IV.

For Euro V, the equivalent engine is rated at 320 bhp.

As such, the highest emission rating the K310UD can go is Euro IV. SBS Transit would have to get the K320UD if they want Euro V.

Remind me again, when is the deadline for registering Euro IV buses before Euro V becomes the new minimum emission standard?

sbst275 SG

SBST trying to cut cost?

I think more to do w/ how Scania offers the bodyworks option

JaSoNhSu92 SG

The one I cannot trust to climb these hills would be the VOs. Fortunately none has passed through that area....yet. At least as far as I know.

IMO, the one that has the least difficulty for the NUS services would be the MKIV DM3500.....really no sweat.

there is one DM3500 in 151 fleet i recommend: 2772T

even SLBP DM3500s can.. especially 2770Z 2788Z can run like mad.

^tamago^ SG

Remind me again, when is the deadline for registering Euro IV buses before Euro V becomes the new minimum emission standard?

Euro V for here never announced.

^tamago^ SG

Just want to read more information about this demo, so stop all those pages of meaningless debate and flamings and get back to topic. Thanks.

To thread starter, any pictures of the bus?

When it's out, you can help us bring in some pictures. But the interior holds no surprises.

TIB1224Y SG

One way to look out for Euro 4 or 5/EEV engines is by the capacity. 8867 cc for Euro 4, and 9291 cc for Euro 5/EEV versions. What is changed is the bore of the engine, 3 mm more for each cylinder, relates to increased combustion capability and translated to more power for engines on a certain range, that is why you see a 270 to 280 and 310 to 320 increase.

Euro 4 169 kW: DC 9-16 230
EEV 169 kW: DC 9-30 230
Euro 4 228 kW: DC 9-18 310

DC 9 engine type, -16/18/30 engine designation, 230/310 horsepower (metric).

The 228 kW engine has 1550 Nm torque, highest torque in city-buses locally till date (true also for the power output). No foreseeable problems for climbing local gradients or starting up with heavy load.

chickenlittle2 SG

I think more to do w/ how Scania offers the bodyworks option

Yeah, according Scania, Gemilang is able to deliver "high quality bodyworks" to them. Indeed Gemilang is able to deliver their CKD fast enough to CDGE with the arrival of the chassis(Few months aft they made the purchase?).

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