Bus services to be amended for Marina Bay Sands Resort

sbst275 SG

if like tis, can make additional stop at C'wealth Ave West (Blk 203 pair)?

sbst275 SG

How about extending 23 to Shenton Way and 857 to New Bridge Rd instead?

I was wondering tis.

23 can go back to Orchard Rd. 857 could end at Shenton Way.

56 go NBR

tintinspartan SG

97, 106, 133, 502, 518

something is wrong

from MBS there are direct buses to Orchard, Bugis and of course Shenton Way and Suntec

but not a single bus goes to Chinatown or Little India

why the need for so many Shenton Way <-> MBS links, either 106 or 133 should go to new bridge road terminal

They can transfer to Sv 970 from Shenton Way for Chinatown, Sv 130 for Bugis and Little India.

azharjj SG

i like this 502 route.

but they really could do with an evening 502A. 1 DD is fine. see demand 1st if wanna be careful. AYE > Clementi Ave 6 > PIE > JW West Ave 4. > Corporation Rd > Boon Lay Ave.

518A evening was fast.

my only disappointment is both the express services A portion evening is no more.

133M should just be given an exclusive service number...

my $0.02.

i dun think 502A evening trip will work

this is due to evening jam at clementi ave 6 heading twrds PIE jurong (like what service 185 exprienced)

especially if it's between 5.45-6.30 or 7pm

though it is fast actually but still time is precious

unless the route is something like this:

AYE-clementi ave 6-commonwealth ave west-toh guan rd- PIE- ave 2 - Boon lay ave

AYE-corporation rd-Boon lay ave lol

SBS BUSES LOVER SG

i dun think 502A evening trip will work

this is due to evening jam at clementi ave 6 heading twrds PIE jurong (like what service 185 exprienced)

especially if it's between 5.45-6.30 or 7pm

though it is fast actually but still time is precious

unless the route is something like this:

AYE-clementi ave 6-commonwealth ave west-toh guan rd- PIE- ave 2 - Boon lay ave

AYE-corporation rd-Boon lay ave lol

502A evening trip would work very well .

This part you no need to worry ....

Cause Since the Enhanced 502 introduced in 23 Dec 2005 ...

The bonus thing is this : " This service may ply different routes along the express sector subject to traffic conditions"

This gives the driver to choose any route he wants to get to the destination during the Non Stop Express Sector ...

There have been cases .. 502A twds Orchard suddenly uses PIE> Toh Guan Road > Boon Lay way > Holland to get to orchard

I have also seen 502 on its return trip from stevens road use bukit timah rd back to boon lay way

seen 502B use PIE towards orchard

etc many variations

Normally OCC would inform them if there is a jam and then bc uses alternative route to avoid jam .. or the bc takes initative to use alternative route when stuck in jam ...

so there is no fixed route in the express sector unlike 185 bo bian die die have to use Clementi ave 6 cos 1st stop is immediately after jurong town hall exit ..

service_238 SG

Another way can be AYE direct to Corporation Rd then Boon Lay Ave.

JaSoNhSu92 SG

will the Sv 133 DD sized front destos with destinations gone into history with the opening of MBS?

sbst275 SG

They can transfer to Sv 970 from Shenton Way for Chinatown, Sv 130 for Bugis and Little India.

It can only be for stop gap measure. When DTL starts running, probably not much need for bus svs to Chinatown.

No_10_Tomas SG

For now, they should just re-route 106 and 133 to terminate at new bridge road during sats/suns via cross st/upp cross st

makes no sense that chinatown is so near to MBS, yet no direct buses

we don't need so many buses to shenton way during sats and suns, look at 70,107,162 these services are cut back to suntec

Shenton way terminal during sat/sun is virtually a ghosttown

sbst275 SG

For now, they should just re-route 106 and 133 to terminate at new bridge road during sats/suns via cross st/upp cross st

makes no sense that chinatown is so near to MBS, yet no direct buses

we don't need so many buses to shenton way during sats and suns, look at 70,107,162 these services are cut back to suntec

Shenton way terminal during sat/sun is virtually a ghosttown

Because the buses would need to serve Marina Bay Financial Dist soon. Many of the towers are going to TOP.

chickenlittle2 SG

most of the pax are not on that side of the road. PTC won't approve. not forgetting a double loop in e marina area just to serve suntec along temasek blvd/ave.

well, what if people start complaining long waiting times in the evening peak for any kind of relavent sv502 variant that brings them home? after all, people can't be late for work, whereas fewer people have to meet a timeline for going home lest they get fired from home.

of course, as a resident of Pioneer, you can seek your MP or SLBP friend's help to feedback, they might consider it seriously. but i can foresee headway nearing 40mins after the last 502A/502B has left, versus a maximum headway of 20mins after 7.45pm and 13-14mins before.

If you see the new route, passengers taking from scotts road is also badly affected.

I believe to ask them to stop using Boon Lay way will solve the root of the problem during the evening slot. From the past experience, most of the 502B and 502 were late because of using that route. If it takes more than 95 mins to complete the journey from the city to Pioneer, I will think the express buses is not be meeting their basic requirement.

I dun see a need of bringing out a MP or my friend in the discussion. I believe the HQ should be doing this job. Nevertheless, let's monitor the travelling time for svc 502 during the peak hrs to pioneer.

chickenlittle2 SG

Btw, i believe more than 60% of the users for these amended services are not aware of the changes.

With the new bus stop pole, notice posted at the bus stop are so small and not noticeable. Bigger poster should be used.

Imagine just yesterday, express 502 still experience high loading between orchard rd to Soon Lee. There should be personnel giving out brochure at these bus stop to aware the passengers taking this service.

The press release was posted too late, passengers had no time to react. In fact, SMRT did a better job. News media should be used to broadcast the changes.

TIB657M SG

Btw, i believe more than 60% of the users for these amended services are not aware of the changes.

With the new bus stop pole, notice posted at the bus stop are so small and not noticeable. Bigger poster should be used.

The press release was posted too late, passengers had no time to react. In fact, SMRT did a better job. News media should be used to broadcast the changes.

Just like SBST personnel did distribute the bus guides for 241 and amended 242 last time. Hope can do that again.

^tamago^ SG

If you see the new route, passengers taking from scotts road is also badly affected.

that sentence is selfish. how about those working in suntec? you mean they shld be treated equally too?

if you feel journey time is a priority over a direct journey, why not take the train? nobody is stopping you, you know.

HQ? good. write in to CRC. they'll handle it. of cos, if such grassroot representative as a MP agrees with you this time round and will speak for you, i'm sure HQ will do something for you. they're one of the people who will be consulted when there are route changes after all.

sgbuses SG

They might as well just convert it to a trunk route, like how 521 became 963. Say 102. Reinclude the stops at Clementi and toss in a few more DDs - instant cash cow. Then run 102e using 502A routing.

In any case, I do see quite a couple of people board 502 for access to IMM from Jurong West/Boon Lay and vice-versa.

n4l SG

They might as well just convert it to a trunk route, like how 521 became 963. Say 102. Reinclude the stops at Clementi and toss in a few more DDs - instant cash cow. Then run 102e using 502A routing.

I think Express Routes earn more than Trunk Routes...and Trunk routes will fall into PTC's stricter QoS guidelines - which may prove to be more trouble than help. Considering that 502 is still pretty profitable (or so I think), there isn't a need for them to convert it :P.

On another note, I feel that 133M should be extended to Chinatown instead of terminating at Shenton Way :) - and it could be given a new number too in that sense...unless "M" variant routes don't fall under Basic Service QoS but are considered additional supplementary trips?

sgbuses SG

I think Express Routes earn more than Trunk Routes...and Trunk routes will fall into PTC's stricter QoS guidelines - which may prove to be more trouble than help.

With all the overcrowding on the MRT, PTC might give a little bit of leeway. Maybe service 122 will sound more convincing! (Points to service 128 )

chickenlittle2 SG

that sentence is selfish. how about those working in suntec? you mean they shld be treated equally too?

if you feel journey time is a priority over a direct journey, why not take the train? nobody is stopping you, you know.

I am not arguing on which side, but to show that these pax at scotts road are badly affected too. From my experience, the affected pax should be relatively high too. Btw, isn't 502 can be amended to ply the opp side of suntec like what svc 97 is doing?

Journey time and direct journey is equally important and that also shows that why Service 502A and 518A are there in the evening since 2005. These services targets the working adults and evening crowd. Terminating these 2 services in the evening is a grave mistake without considering the traffic condition the pax might face during the PM peak. For the case of the evening headway, I believe there are actually enough 502 buses but it is because of the route they had used to get to the city. Most of them are stuck along Boon Lay Way.

I dun think this time round the amendment of the services had the need to contact any MP for opinon.

n4l SG

With all the overcrowding on the MRT, PTC might give a little bit of leeway. Maybe service 122 will sound more convincing! (Points to service 128 )

Nah I was referring to SBST's willingness to convert 502 from an Express to Trunk service.

Besides, policy nowadays seems to be to squeeze everyone on the MRT ...wait till they reverse that in a few years time

smrt3099 SG

Its better to open new services, look at 502... journey can be chaotic

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