LTA Central Planning (Phase I) – Splitting ultra-long routes

last SG · 2010-03-27T22:14:40+00:00

*sigh* what to do? this is singapore, where everything is rising anyway, hope 135 wont be affected, for now

sbst275 SG

The main idea of Stage 1 Circle Line is too link the whole of the commercial corridor. I really agree that the stations are really close.

I think it was Yeo C T.

That time he went around saying MRT can replace buses.

Now they realise they can't

sbst275 SG

Well, MRT stations might be everywhere in town but not so when out of town. Another thing is, how many lines do we have to transfer even though they seem to consider entering and exit the MRT network as a single ride?

yeap

*ahem* ageing population *ahem*

SBS7322B SG

Good, I foresee more complaints from commuters in the future, regarding to limited choices, overcrowding and when the rail system came to a standstill. And more protests and complaints and unhappiness about our transport syaytems in future.

And more people will turn to private transport because they do not have to squeeze with others and make numerous transfers just to get to one place. So to those younger people here, work hard and get your own transport here. And spread this message to your friends out there. The government don't serve for the people, they serve their own agendas to make themselves look good to others over the world.

They are denying the affordability problems of HDB housing that Singaporeans are facing in future, now they are adding more woes in the public transport to make life harder for Singaporeans. So be wise in who to vote for in future.

I have to no choice but to say that this isn't a political forum to post your political rants. This is a bus forum, I do not mind a bit of politics regarding the Land Transport but not rantings. There are political forums here in SGF to post your rants. Not to flame you but it's just a feedback.

sbst275 SG

Yah, when more people complain about the MRT peak hour frequency, SMRT will feel stressed becos of the new plan, then in the end when SMRT can't cope with so many people, they will bound to intro new bus services again.

I remembered they gave me a reply of a big NO to more bus services. They said SMRT's policy is only MRT. Buses only to feeder.

JaSoNhSu92 SG

i feel that 157 may be amended or went into history. 9055J on 157 with Drypers ad featured on Channel 8 and Channel U News

Samuel Lee SG

It's alrdy a medium demand line.

If I'm not wrong w/ the number of train ordered, peak hr freq CCL can go is max 4 mins.

Cant be. Yes, it is a medium demand line because it was planned as Marina Line consist only 6 stations which is the now CCL 1, but the frequency cant be 4 mins as they can just simply buy more trains and possibly share depot in Gali Batu if DTL is under SMRT (Which is way bigger than Kim Chuan, for downtown ones) assuming lack of space in Kim Chuan. I remembered that when they built Botanic Gardens, they have also built a cut-box tunnel there for reserve Interchange. Maybe there is a connection there? Who knows!?

What is certain is that this cannot be done in NEL even they buy extra 25 trains instead because the train signalling system is not that fast. The CCL one has a faster responsive system, AFAIK despite the real problem is the lack of trains, and consider the Marina Bay Extension, which is like ...???

I also wonder who the hell had suggested the epic failure Marina Line because there seemed to be no space for depot? Share with NEL? Hell no who ask them use 3rd rail instead of pantographs used in NEL.

SBS7322B SG

I think on Weekdays peak hrs these corridor is going to give a headache.

HarbourFront - Buona Vista: PSA, MOT, Casino Regulatory Authority, MPA officals working at PSA Bldg, NOL Bldg workers + NUS undergrads.

Paya Lebar - Serangoon: Paya Lebar - Ubi.

But it's very subjective depending on people's travelling pattern.

But for sure, CCL's demand might be very very low on weekend. Something SMRT might have to be mentally prepared.

Adapting to the Circle Line's demand is the duty of SMRT to monitor when the Line fully opens.

Khairiano SG

Can i say, i hate LTA now?

thanks to Kapong Ubi residence for complaining trunk service/cross country service

sbst275 SG

Adapting to the Circle Line's demand is the duty of SMRT to monitor when the Line fully opens.

*points to wat SPH lament abt NEL back then

SBS7322B SG

Cant be. Yes, it is a medium demand line, but the frequency cant be 4 mins as they can just simply buy more trains and possibly share depot in Gali Batu if DTL is under SMRT (Which is way bigger than Kim Chuan, for downtown ones) assuming lack of space.

Note that Kim Chuan Depot is gonna share some of it's space for DTL C951 Bombardier MOVIA trains.

sbst275 SG

like it or not, face it based on the current ordered figure.

NEL's 25 train can still manage to provide 3.5 mins freq thks to some schedule technique which I noticed

SBS7322B SG

*points to wat SPH lament abt NEL back then

Amazingly the ridership of NEL has increased over the past few years. ~_~

n4l SG

I think it was Yeo C T.

That time he went around saying MRT can replace buses.

Now they realise they can't

Actually, they still think they can.

By 2020, we will double the RTS network from 138km today to 278km (see Figure 3.5). This will increase our RTS density from 31km per million population today to 51km per million population by 2020. This is comparable to that in cities like New York and London, and surpassing that in Hong Kong and Tokyo. Within the Central Area, commuters will be able to access an RTS station within 400m, or five minutes’ walk, on average.

sbst275 SG

Amazingly the ridership of NEL has increased over the past few years. ~_~

it's like kena owned

Even EWL freq dun even get a proper 2 mins freq these days. Mostly 3.5 mins.

sbst275 SG

Actually, they still think they can.

Aiyo, didn't ESC's report mention abt developing underground?

Looks like gotta start give and take of building more MRT riaos.

SBS7322B SG

Actually, they still think they can.

The closest Singapore can possibly go is to be like HK MTR system. It's really world class transport.

tanjun SG

Is there any place we can feedback about this? Do we feedback to LTA or SBST?

^tamago^ SG

Ease of commuting by train does not seem to improve from what I see with the kind of expected density.

SBS7322B SG

Is there any place we can feedback about this? Do we feedback to LTA or SBST?

LTA. They control the overall Transport system.

sbst275 SG

Ease of commuting by train does not seem to improve from what I see with the kind of expected density.

NEL soon going to be jammed packed as more and more flats at Sengkang & Punggol TOP.

Both new towns can provide 191,000 units of houses leh.

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