LTA Central Planning (Phase I) – Splitting ultra-long routes

last SG · 2010-03-27T22:14:40+00:00

*sigh* what to do? this is singapore, where everything is rising anyway, hope 135 wont be affected, for now

tranquilice SG

Although it would be a longer trip to the airport for ppl in Woodlands who wanna go airport, they should know that they benefit too because if they wanna go to Sembawang visit frens or blah blah blah, they need not take MRT then transfer bus. DIRECT BUS!

Who in Woodlands going to Sembawang would want to take MRT then transfer bus when they can take service 962 direct?

TIB1234T SG

Who in Woodlands going to Sembawang would want to take MRT then transfer bus when they can take service 962 direct?

Now the Woodlanders have 2 choices, either 858 or 962.

sbst275 SG

I think e issue has gone wrong.

Some routes very easily gets to hit e 20km mark like Sv 10, 30, 97, 143, 154, 167, 170, 961. But where they travel? Pasir Panjang, AYE, Bt Timah, Upp Thomson which can easily clock mileage riao.

Another issue you can spilit e buses up, but can our terminal handle esp w/ e smaller integrated bus hubs?

TIB1234T SG

Let put up a list of SBST and SMRT bus services with over 25 fare stages (1 fare stage is 0.8 km).

From Woodlands Regional interchange, we have:

161
168?
169
178
187?
858
960
961/961C
963/963E/963R
965
966
969

SMB92U SG

CCK Interchange
1st: Service 67
2nd: Service 188
3rd: Service 985

Bukit Panjang Interchange
1st: Service 970
2nd: Service 75
3rd: Service 700A

SMB92U SG

From Woodlands Regional interchange, we have:
168?

168 long distance, but got short fare stages; its even shorter than intra-town/townlink svc lol..

SMB32T SG

Add on SMRT long haul services like 61, 67 and 167.

But service 63 still quite ok leh...

sbst275 SG

full list

SBS: 2, 5, 7, 10, 12, 13, 14, 14e, 16, 21, 24, 27, 28, 30, 30e, 31, 32, 33, 36, 39, 43, 45, 48, 51, 52, 53, 57, 59, 65, 66, 70, 74, 74e, 80, 88, 89, 89e, 93, 97, 97e, 100, 105, 132, 143, 147, 151, 151e, 154, 156, 157, 161, 165, 166, 168, 170, 174, 174e, 175, 182, 196, 197, 502, 506, 518

SMRT: 61, 67, 75, 167, 169, 171, 176, 178, 187, 190, 851, 852, 853C, 854, 855, 857, 858, 960, 961, 963, 965, 966, 969, 970, 980, 985

Ironically 63 is at borderline.

SMB32T SG

I believe that if bus services travelling on TPE like 39, 85, 161, 168, 858, 965, 969 are going to be cut, there will surely be lots of complaints by commuters.

sbst275 SG

Sv 85 clocks 16km.

Samuel Lee SG

But there are certain bus makes no sense to chop off:

They are:

966, 985, 75, 36, 48, 518, 502 and 506.

Reason:

966 and 985 mainly is East - (North) West cross province bus with majority of the route in Expressway (PIE and BKE as well for 966)

75 -- Mainly serves Kim Seng area to Orchard then Ulu Pandan / Bukit Timah (Which is quite Ulu and the usage not high) then end at BPJ

36 and 48 -- Actually, 36 cannot be chopped becoz it is a "Airport Express Line" in Airport, Marine Parade then CBD (Suntec, City Hall and Orchard). It is because of its loop nature to have the fare stage so high (966 also btw). Unless Eastern Region Line is ready (By 2020), I see so reason to chop 36.

48 is similar, in the sense that it is quite direct service to BNV, but not loop lah. I see the reason to chop 48 or maybe, shorten the route to Rochor Canal like 23 when the DTL Stage 2 is ready by 2015 because people go Bugis or even Rochor MRT station, take DTL to Botanic Garden then transfer CCL Stage 4 will do.

502, 518 and 506: They are Xpress service with low utilization due to a higher fares although 502 seemed to have more passengers because of the Western area is big and far from CBD nature. So by shortening or axe the route, esp.502 will cause inconvience in Jurong West / Pioneer new town. 506 and 518 serve East Coast and Pasir Ris / Bedok Reservoir people respectively to Suntec. I see no reason to axe, despite it is long.

sbst275 SG

966 from WDL to Marine Parade easily clocks 28.8km alrdy.

Svs like 162M or 700A dun qualify, same reason as 63 based on distance to looping point n not e whole looping journey.

TIB1234T SG

966 from WDL to Marine Parade easily clocks 28.8km alrdy.

Svs like 162M or 700A dun qualify, same reason as 63 based on distance to looping point n not e whole looping journey.

Somemore 858 and 966 are the 2 services that got the longest farestages in all SMRT services and from Woodlands.

One Harmonius Blend SG

My Suggestion

10 Tampines to Shenton Way, Geylang Lor 1 to Kent Ridge
30 Bedok to Kent Ridge,
51 Hougang to Bukit Merah, Geylang Lor 1 to Jurong East
63 Eunos to New Bridge Rd, Geylang Lor 1 to Rumah Tinggi
143 Toa Payoh to Harbourfront, New Bridge Rd to Jurong East
147 Hougang to New Bridge Rd, Queen Street to Clementi
196 Clementi to Geylang Lor 1, Bukit Merah to Bedok

30 can go to Kent Ridge, provided 33 comes over, but the thing it goes through JC, so can't have DDs, which commuters will complain

as for the rest, they are all covered by their respective services

^tamago^ SG

I think e issue has gone wrong.

Another issue you can spilit e buses up, but can our terminal handle esp w/ e smaller integrated bus hubs?

Bingo. LTA has to help operators manage the increased capacity needs at bus interchanges and terminals, not reducing the number of lots at all the upgraded interchanges like Sengkang, Toa Payoh, Ang Mo Kio, Boon Lay and upcoming Serangoon.

sbst275 SG

30 can go to Kent Ridge, provided 33 comes over, but the thing it goes through JC, so can't have DDs, which commuters will complain

as for the rest, they are all covered by their respective services

Sv 33... I can't find anyway to cut simply because of terminating point issue.

JaSoNhSu92 SG

But there are certain bus makes no sense to chop off:

They are:

966, 985, 75, 36, 48, 518, 502 and 506.

Reason:

966 and 985 mainly is East - (North) West cross province bus with majority of the route in Expressway (PIE and BKE as well for 966)

75 -- Mainly serves Kim Seng area to Orchard then Ulu Pandan / Bukit Timah (Which is quite Ulu and the usage not high) then end at BPJ

502 demand looks quite high in weekends..

^tamago^ SG

按车程距离收费制即将在今年7月全面落实，乘客无论转换多少趟车，都是“一票到底”，按照车程距离付费。

Anyone realised the timeline for throughfare has been announced?

sbst275 SG

按车程距离收费制即将在今年7月全面落实，乘客无论转换多少趟车，都是“一票到底”，按照车程距离付费。

Anyone realised the timeline for throughfare has been announced?

bus route tendering system is next yr

One Harmonius Blend SG

Sv 33... I can't find anyway to cut simply because of terminating point issue.

33 cannot drop over to boon lay, provided 33 goes the same way as 30, other than that no

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