SMRT buses vs SBS buses

Merczrox SG

Joke of the month (2010) : Scania K230ub is much better than Mercedes OC500LE , much quieter.

Kawasaki: You certainly make my day.

Exactly.Joke of the year better la.

SMB32T SG

SBS buses have more comfortable seats.

SMRT buses have very uncomfortable seats.

That's my comparison.

I agree to the point. Find that the seats of the Merc 0405s have very little cushion and my butt tends to ache after a long journey. Also those furry seats attract too much dust already, they ought to be replaced.

I would say that the seats for the newer WAB buses for SBST and SMRT are about the same.

jayh272416 SG

I would say that the seats for the newer WAB buses for SBST and SMRT are about the same.

they are in fact the same model. the vogelsitze seats. its on ly the covering that is slightly diff.

SBS315T SG

Company Policy. Junctions speed canotch be above 30 km/j got poster at JE int informing BCs

kelvintwt SG

imo 961 is a good example of tight schedules. same goes to 061.

tanjun SG

I still prefer the design of SBS B9TLs than the SMRT new WAB Merc and SBS Scania K230UB in terms of space utilisation and stairs.

carbikebus SG

Having worked as a BC / SL for SBST & SMRTB respectively here's my honest opinion.Yes i fully agreed that SBST bus service are slow but not all of them.About 25% of the services especially 27,34,168 run on a bit tighter schedule due to less break time at direction 2 Interchange.So the BC must have at least 3-5 mins earlier upon reaching so that he got ample time to park and rest.Secondly about competition.If 965 can take you from WRI to Punggol in less than 32mins why bother to take 161 which take 40 mins?So the gap has to be minimal.Take note that SBST has large fleet of buses as it is the main Public bus operator while SMRTB is just like small group of public bus operator.Their main bussiness is still Trains.I have to admit that many SBST BCs crawl until a lot of complains were send to HQ.SMRTB schedule are tight,Yes trust me i've even whack 70kmh at TPE driving 969 on my second last trip to WRI due to heavy passenger loading at TMP.Most of all the driver judgement,skills,alertness and braking is the factor.So far i've not received any complains while i was over the limit.Some pax even commend me for reaching their destination on time or not faster.So in conclusion i feel there are reasons for all this.SBST got many buses so no point for them to rush like mad when the freq is good while SMRTB have to run a bit faster just to perform the freq.Remember 3000 buses versus 850 buses.No point saying who is good nor bad.Both got their advantages.We as a commuter should be grateful.

SBS261P SG

this reminds me. i ever took one 190 before and i was in front (a lot of pax). the speedometer read 90 km/h on the PIE (towards CCK). <3

but sometimes the SL no choice. i ever took a 302 and some old auntie was complaining "why so fast and so jerky" (it was a smiley bendy) den the SL was like "the schedule v tight, i also don't want to chiong". FOR A FEEDER SERVICE! haha.

but I think the Merc O405 are in quite pristine condition! Considering they are the main fleet and by right supposed to be lao pok...

SBS Transit used to be famous for their seats having no leg room (think of the B10M MK IIs). hated it when I was a student (I always had to bend my knees / sit slanted).

kinda miss them now =(

TIB657M SG

Are you refering TIB426M or TIB425R?

TIB426M. Sorry for the mistakes through. I forgot to edit the TIB425R.

AEW5001 SG

Joke of the month (2010) : Scania K230ub is much better than Mercedes OC500LE , much quieter.

Kawasaki: You certainly make my day.

i agree with u also

only if e ks are maintained properly.

AEW5001 SG

the KUBS are not good for speeding... and SMRT captains are fast with the O405s, bendies and OC500LEs...

they are good for cruising

if not for e speed limiter

SBS7484P SG

If you mean the k230 & OC, then it is the horsepower difference between the 2 buses.

i mean in general.

take a ride on the older kub's. notice how unlike the euro v's and the newer euvo iv's, they feel sluggish?

i was on 8272E that day, after a long period of not riding any buses. and i noticed a huge difference between now and when the scanias were first delivered. when driven normally, the acceleration was pathetic. when pushed hard (bc was flooring the accelerator along yck rd), the acceleration doesn't seem to get any better.

notice how the buses start to feel shitty after just one year.

Case in point: B9TL's. First year, they were fast. second year, suddenly all feel so lousy.

loki_chaos SG

Hi Bus Fans,

I would like to have your opinions with regards to the following:

Personally, I find that SBS bus drivers are damn slow drivers as compared to SMRT bus drivers. Some SBS drivers can be found driving at a speed of 40km/h, whereas most SMRT bus drivers are actually driving quite fast, I would say at least 60-70km/h. I would like to know why is this so.

Secondly, I do not understand why is there a need for the SBS bus drivers to purposely slow down until almost to a halt at almost every red light junction especially when it is obvious that its not going to change to red anytime soon (because the opp green man is not even flashing). SMRT bus drivers will usually bo hiew and drive thru, whereas th SBS drivers like to slow down at every junction.

Also, SBS drivers like to enter each and every bus stop, when its obvious that there is either no body at the bus stop or there is no one flagging for the bus to stop. SMRT drivers on the other hand, would not enter the bus stops unneccessarily.

sgbuses SG

they are good for cruising

if not for e speed limiter

KUBs can make for a really good and enjoyable ride when put in the correct hands :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ2mKjVITwQ

chickenlittle2 SG

they are good for cruising

if not for e speed limiter

I luv Kub on Express 502 and 506. Except the seats issue, others are great.

chickenlittle2 SG

KUBs can make for a really good and enjoyable ride when put in the correct hands :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ2mKjVITwQ

For the later batch of kub, they delayed the gearshift. This reduce the jerkiness of the bus. Quite impressed with SBS 8790B with also minimum vibration.

TIB1224Y SG

KUBs can make for a really good and enjoyable ride when put in the correct hands :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ2mKjVITwQ

The first acceleration is not at normal operation, kickdown is obviously activated and fuel consumption would shoot up in such a scenario.

New generation of buses focus on low emissions and fuel consumption, while this is the focus, engine rpms are to remain at a low range. Sad for power enthusiasts (I am one of them), but this is the case. Any engine rpm above 1500 would generally mean dirty emission and high fuel consumption, for these engines.

Now, an OC can do that without activating kickdown.

carbikebus SG

To be honest the K230UBs doesnt impress me at all.Even the crappy Lance are way much better.RapidPenang K270UB are more better although there’s slight vibration.But hey thats natural for 5 cylinder buses

SBS8292Y SG

hmm, i prefer smrt buses more than sbst… especially riding kub is zzzz… prefer oc500le instead.

SBS n SMRT SG

this reminds me. i ever took one 190 before and i was in front (a lot of pax). the speedometer read 90 km/h on the PIE (towards CCK). <3

but I think the Merc O405 are in quite pristine condition! Considering they are the main fleet and by right supposed to be lao pok...

SBS Transit used to be famous for their seats having no leg room (think of the B10M MK IIs). hated it when I was a student (I always had to bend my knees / sit slanted).

kinda miss them now =(

mk 3 and 0405 still quite squeezed

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