SMRT New Euro-V Mercedes-Benz OC500LE WAB bus (Part 2)

last SG · 2008-11-26T21:58:29+00:00

Our discussion in this thread is not regarding SMB66X ==/!= Weiteck96.

n4l SG

There's only 66/67/132/167 (whatever the number is now since no one's clear about it) OCs. You can't expect every service to get them anyway.

AEW5001 SG

Ya, me too, i olso wait patiently then svc 307 will get OCs.. Then aft a long wait since SMB1H registered, finally 3 OCs deployed on this svc.

i think maybe i'm e more unlucky 1. i guess there's not even 1 perm OC on 67. sigh...those living along e routes of 851 must be e luckiest.

dinierazin SG

....there's not even 1 perm OC on 67. sigh....

Huh? I thought 3C is already perm on 67?

n4l SG

i think maybe i'm e more unlucky 1. i guess there's not even 1 perm OC on 67. sigh...those living along e routes of 851 must be e luckiest.

You're so wrong - LOL. 851 is so packed nowadays with the OC deployments that it's even hard to get on the bus during certain periods - talk about getting a seat on 851? Dream on.

When you're coming back from the city, now the situation is:

- Want a seat? Board from Outram Park MRT, or before that. If you can even get one, you're lucky.

- Want to even board the bus? Board from Little India MRT, or before that. There's a good chance that the driver will just skip your stop if you're boarding after that stop.

And before someone gets onto the fact that passengers refuse to move to the back, let's just say the driver already did a very good job getting everyone to the back and people are moving.

Considering that 99.5% of the passengers on 851 aren't bus fans, this isn't so lucky. And, this is without WAB passengers on board the bus yet...makes me wonder what'll happen if a WAB passenger tries to board the bus at Little India.

Dear passengers, please disembark from the bus! I need to push this passenger to the WAB area...okay okay wait i go off service first and give u all complimentary tickets~

sinicker SG

i was on 851 today.

frm yishun to city hall.

the most number of ppl standing at the rear half of the bus - 5.

total number of ppl standing on front half of bus - uncountable.

Orange-mush SG

Actually, I find that not many people like to stand at the rear after the steps. I don't understand it. They think got ghost behind or what. I mean, got space behind obviously you move to the rear to let other people board. Don't sabo other people and prevent them from getting on the bus.

n4l SG

1. Troublesome to move up.

2. But the main reason is because....The exit is in the middle. And if you're at the back and the bus is packed, you will find it very very troublesome to get off...and if you take too long because people refuse to move, the driver might just close the door and vroooom.

Typical Singaporean selfish mentality lah. Although I'm guilty of this sometimes too...it happens on all models of buses, not just the OCs.

Btw, I find that standing at the rear of the OCs is a mental torture sometimes - your CG is simply not there and you feel like as if you're going to fall anytime despite holding onto the handrails. Design flaw with the bus body ):

Orange-mush SG

1. Troublesome to move up.

2. The exit is in the middle. And if you're at the back and the bus is packed, you will find it very very troublesome to get off...and if you take too long because people refuse to move, the driver might just close the door and vroooom.

Typical Singaporean selfish mentality lah. Although I'm guilty of this sometimes too...standing at the rear of the OCs is a mental torture sometimes - your CG is simply not there and you feel like as if you're going to fall anytime despite holding onto the handrails. Design flaw with the bus body ):

Yeah, that may be the case. Maybe the walkway at the rear is also narrow and hard to move.

n4l SG

Yeah, that may be the case. Maybe the walkway at the rear is also narrow and hard to move.

I for one, don't want to be put through another mental test at the back after a long and tiresome day at work...even though getting on the bus nowadays is also a mental test.

But one thing about the OCs that SMRT has failed to do, unlike SBST, is the warning stickers at the front, telling passengers not to hold the poles. I feel like writing in to inform them about it. I always see passengers holding onto the front door's poles (the back doors ones are still okay...because they don't fold in and swing out instead). The natural thing to do for humans when you stand is to want to find something to hold. 851 being so packed, passengers usually stand right to the front door.

Being at the front, they don't realise that the door actually opens inwards and hold onto the entrance door's "poles" where SBST on their KUBs have stickered. The drivers do not realise that this is happening when I asked some of them and they'd just open the doors. When this happens, the hands get clipped and bent backwards, creating a huge possilibity of breaking the wrist. It's a scary thought, but I've seen near cases happening..including myself personally because I didn't notice passengers wanting to board at the bus stop.

Raraken SG

i think maybe i'm e more unlucky 1. i guess there's not even 1 perm OC on 67. sigh...those living along e routes of 851 must be e luckiest.

Well, lets just say those in Woodlands and Sembawang areas are the unlucky ones........knowing SMRT, wait until the UD all dereg then we can expect to see OCs......

Those around 851 route are not lucky. Capacity of OCs are lesser than the O405s from what I have observed.

TIB537B SG

I for one, don't want to be put through another mental test at the back after a long and tiresome day at work...even though getting on the bus nowadays is also a mental test.

SMRT will create another voice announcement -> "Please do not hold on to the door poles. Thank you." XD. I've not realised why SBST stickered the door poles of the K230UBs 3rd batch until i saw this post. I'm slow XD

Oh speaking of which Weiteck 96, continue dreaming on (and don't posting here) about some services that will get OC500LEs. It's irritating for us trying to tell you that WLDEP has no OC500LE-based services till SMRT does so. If you feel so, you may want to email to SMRT's customer service centre to tell them buy more OCs. Don't need to kpkb here.

Raraken SG

852, 857 isn't getting any OCs?

You know, I agree with almost everyone. Please, wait for news and think before you post. We here do not like useless questions or one-liners with absolutely no meaning. You could take a leaf out of SBS8033D's book. I can still remember not too long ago, he was like you, worse still 'stealing' pics. Now I can see his behaviour on the forums has improved and he has started posting more intelligently. I believe this is not the first time, or the second, or third for that matter, that you have shown not-that-acceptable behavior on the forums. So, I hope you can have a better sense of judgement and thinking in your posts and have a nice user experience on SgForums.

Back to topic, I have an odd feeling SMB5x-6x will be under WLDEP......when the UDs are deregistered.

n4l SG

Well, lets just say those in Woodlands and Sembawang areas are the unlucky ones........knowing SMRT, wait until the UD all dereg then we can expect to see OCs......

Those around 851 route are not lucky. Capacity of OCs are lesser than the O405s from what I have observed.

For comparison's sake...

OC500LE - 34 Seating, 56 Standing - Total 90

O405 - 41 seating, 44 standing - Total 85

0405G - 59 seating, 73 standing - Total 132

So...calculation flaw or? :P

Raraken SG

If he wants hope of OC on WLDEP svc, he can hope that the morning 851 to 856 crossover is an OC........

JaSoNhSu92 SG

For comparison's sake...

OC500LE - 34 Seating, 56 Standing - Total 90

O405 - 41 seating, 44 standing - Total 85

0405G - 59 seating, 73 standing - Total 132

So...calculation flaw or? :P

Conclusion: WAB buses always have lesser seats than higher step buses. but can carry more ppl due to 2 PIW standee area.

TIB537B SG

If he wants hope of OC on WLDEP svc, he can hope that the morning 851 to 856 crossover is an OC........

Ya. He can really start hoping ba.

Raraken SG

For comparison's sake...

OC500LE - 34 Seating, 56 Standing - Total 90

O405 - 41 seating, 44 standing - Total 85

0405G - 59 seating, 73 standing - Total 132

So...calculation flaw or? :P

Ok. Observation with my eyes were wrong then. Though that is licensed. They havent seen how many people can squeeze into an O405 on 980 during peak hours..........I pity my dear 970H, having people jammed to the doors, rear and front. People also standing os steps, ya know. Really terrible frequency.

Raraken SG

Ya. He can really start hoping ba.

But I don't think that will happen unless a rare case of slot switching or reduction happens.. The crossovers are bendy slots, though not sure which.

n4l SG

I would say that too...the O405's are much better than the OC500LEs even though the licenced amount is far lesser.

TIB1018B SG

Well, lets just say those in Woodlands and Sembawang areas are the unlucky ones........knowing SMRT, wait until the UD all dereg then we can expect to see OCs......

Those around 851 route are not lucky. Capacity of OCs are lesser than the O405s from what I have observed.

Including those SMRT bus services that passes through Upp Thomson Road near Thomson Plaza area too, no OC500LEs as yet (unless got cameo). SBST bus services like 52, 162, 163, 165 and 410 are now with Scania K230UB fleets already.

Sembawang areas especially those which only has service 980 plying on those certain parts... AMDEP still deploying those old Nissan buses on service 980 instead of introducing the new OC500LEs.

As for Woodlands areas, I think that service 178 is still the worst one off among all. Just wait for all the Nissan UDs to be phased out, perhaps WLDEP might put their remaining ex AMDEP/KJDEP SP CAC Mercs there too, just like what they did to service 852.

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