KUB Vs OC500

last SG · 2008-12-21T18:14:07+00:00

Makes me wonder why your username is of a KUB.....Contradiction?

n4l SG

What if SBST bought 900 OC's and SMRT were the ones that bought the KUB's...?

Dunno...cannot imagine...would it make any diff when different companies buy them? o.O"

sinicker SG

What if SBST bought 900 OC's and SMRT were the ones that bought the KUB's...?

people will complain. too many OCs.

n4l SG

people will complain. too many OCs.

QX179R SG

OT: better than complaining to OCC about the wiper..

muziq bus SG

What if SBST bought 900 OC's and SMRT were the ones that bought the KUB's...?

then i would love SBS for having the OCs...

TIB537B SG

people will complain. too many OCs.

If in different bodyworks variation may alleviate the complains. :p

Like,O405s (SBST) is in 2 different bodyworks, B10M MKIVs in 3 different bodyworks and O405Gs in 4 different bodyworks.

The perm problem is SBST's 500 units are all Gemilangs le. 132 of Gemilang OCs stilll quite ok given majority of the fleet is still rather modern.

tintinspartan SG

One thing i worry about the OC is the gearbox. It sometimes have gear change lag and the engine would reach 2200+ rpm due to that. What i am concerned was the engine and the gearbox. This is not the case for SMB1H from my observation so far.

I am going to judge based from experience as a regular passenger.

Ride Comfort and Quality:

KUB ride comfort is really bad but with the new batch of them coming in, the jerking problems seem to have disappear. But, of course i saw KUBs that weren't manafactured properly. I spotted airleaks at the rear of some KUBs and i've seen the poles vibrate.

OC500LE Ride comfort is overall quite good. No jerks and quite soft seats. Spotted no airleaks in all of them but i spotted a leak at the wheel hub of SMB11D. The bus splattered water from the road during rain and the water seeped through the leak. The bus floor ended up being wet. Apart from that, i award the win for this category to OC500LE.

Mercedes OC500LE: 1

Scania KUB: 0

Ride Noise:

KUB ride noise is quite toleratable despite of the loud howling from the engine and the ZF gearbox.

The OC500LE is quite quiet inside but the Bus Annnouncement System is something that most commuters don't like and some refered the 'BAS' as irritating.

I award the win to KUB for this category.

MB OC500LE: 1

Scania KUB: 1

For me, it's a tie.

Scania SG

Although the OC500LE is quieter than a Scania inside, it is louder on the exterior. So its a blessing in disguise (or more like a consolation, since its going to be a boring place) for me when 238 changed its O.405s for the new Scanias, quieter nights than before. (I stay at a low level). You stand at YCK terminal, a OC500LE will roar pass, but a Scania wouldn't.

Scania SG

Manual and auto leveling:

Both are crap. Although the Merc one seems a bit crappier. A Mk 4 DM3500's manual levelling can win both of them in terms of comfort. The best auto levelling buses to appear in Singapore however are the Scania L113CRLs/CRBs (as an option), Scania L94UBs and low floor Volvos.

The Scania K230UB's levelling system is a tad jerky, but doesn't bring much discomfort to the passengers. The Merc, although not jerky, in fact its quite smooth, is a bit uncomfortable as it tends to bounce when auto levelling, when the bus does several auto levelling acts consecutively, it bounces around and does make passengers a bit queasy.

Conclusion, you are better off in the 1990s and early 2000s than now in terms of buses.

carbikebus SG

Like comparing apple and guava.For comfort wise,speed,reliable,durable its Merc win hand down.Scania K230 a bit underpowered,Good for stop and go city like SG.I prefer the MAN 16.240 @ Volvo B7RLE much more than KUBs.

SBS7322B SG

I spotted airleaks at the rear of some KUBs and i've seen the poles vibrate.

The poles vibrating is due to some problems with the design of the bus. If you realise, only poles at the standing area vibrate more than the others. The poles at the standing area links from the floor of the bus to the horizontal connecting pole above. The other poles are either linked to the side of the bus or linked to the seats. It shows that the lower floor has more vibrations maybe due to the engine below.

The Volvo B7RLE has totally different design. The poles does not vibrate as the poles at the standing area are linked to more poles to stop vibration and also protects the PIW.

16/f/lonely SG

Manual and auto leveling:

Conclusion, you are better off in the 1990s and early 2000s than now in terms of buses.

Talk about bouncing....you should try the trident.....now that's what I call riding.

Roderick a.k.a Guai Kia SG

Talk about bouncing....you should try the trident.....now that's what I call riding.

nissan bounce better..

16/f/lonely SG

nissan bounce better..

That one is not bouncing....by bouncing I mean AMPLIFYING the shock transferred from the ground.

JaSoNhSu92 SG

That one is not bouncing....by bouncing I mean AMPLIFYING the shock transferred from the ground.

bouncing means when the bus cross through the hump, whole bus will SHAKE.

AEW5001 SG

Talk about bouncing....you should try the trident.....now that's what I call riding.

hey? what's bad abt my Tridents?

16/f/lonely SG

hey? what's bad abt my Tridents?

You can have it.

Scania SG

People talk about auto levelling you talk about suspension.....

Scania SG

hey? what's bad abt my Tridents?

Catches fire easily, catches fire easily and catches fire easily. Although none here has been involved in a fire.

Also the brakes are bad, not that they are jerky, but they don't grip well.

sbs8104h SG

all to yourself

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