Strange bus route classification

last SG · 2008-12-07T18:40:46+00:00

the 20x services were once JIS svcs. after Jurong bus int was opened big revamp allowed 20x svcs to be open for use as miscellaneous svcs. 201 - Kent ridge...

BB2001 SG

I am sure everyone here knows the difference between trunk service and feeder service.

I am puzzled about the classifications of some SBS bus services, like 96, 179, 181, 194, 199

96 serves between Clementi Interchange and NUS, looping at Kent Ridge Terminal. NUS is not a town.

179 ply between Boon Lay Interchange and NTU which is located within Jurong West extension estate.

181 ply between Boon Lay Interchange and Jurong West Ave 3 which is also within the Jurong West extension estate. Total number of stages is 8 (on return trip), 4 on single trip.

Whereas 242 and 243 are classified feeder services with similar distances and fare stages. 240 serves longer distances and its total fare stages is 15 (return trip), and 7.5 on single trip.

194 is plying only between Boon Lay interchange and Jurong Bird Park, less than 4 stages on a single trip.

Trunk services charge based on fare stage or distance whichever applies. It is unfair to the 181 commuter to pay stage based fare whereas a 240 commuter pays only a flat fare regardless of the distance.

Any comments?

Ajen SG

SBST want to earn more $$ mah..

I guess SBST wont introduce feeder anymore..

Most of SBST feeder svcs merged into one trunk service.

and yup 181 shouldnt be a trunk service..

bus555 SG

how about 18 and 69. these svc also never go to town lor

BB2001 SG

how about 18 and 69. these svc also never go to town lor

At least 18 goes from Tampines Interchange to Bedok Interchange, and 69 goes from Tampines Interchange and loop at Bedok Reservoir.

181 still ply within Jurong West. Not even Jurong East.

noob321 SG

SBS eating money

Merczrox SG

I find this most strange.svc 246 is classified as a JIS svc but it is more like a feeder svc as it mostly goes in and out of the Corporation area serving residents at areas such as Yung Ho Rd,Tah Ching Rd.it dosent really touch the Industrial areas much except for the first part of its route at Chin Bee Rd.

Merczrox SG

SBS eating money

Yah.

FirePig SG

They just want to earn your money.

samtlk SG

The initial plan was to extend 181 to Clementi, making it a trunk service. However since the load is so good, SBST decide to introduce a new service 185 instead of extending 181.

246's main purpose as an industrial service is to serve the Chin Bee area. The Corporation area is an extension with the opening of the Boon Lay Int.

Correct me if I'm wrong about this part:-

There are actually 2 types of feeder services, namely the Residential Feeder Service and the Industrial Feeder Service. I think we're so used the calling feeder service & JIS that we forgot what the actual terms mean. Any service that don't serve communters between the Interchange & its connecting HDB areas cannot be classified as Residential Feeder Service, hence 96, 179, 199 & 194 are trunk services because their destinations are not HDB estates.

The Industrial Feeder Service used to have a flat fare. It was renamed as the JIS with the introduction of distance-related fare on industrial services, dropping the term feeder.

SBS8033D SG

My suggestion:Make 181 rename to Feeder 244 coz it has so little fare stages

SBS really eating money.Was 181 already a Trunk = Feeder?(for one directional)

samtlk SG

Either way whether 181 is a trunk or a feeder has no effect on the fare if you follow SBST's TITO rule.

Boon Lay Int: Stage 1.0

Stop before & stop after 181 makes the U-turn: Stage 4.5

4.5 - 1.0 = 3.5, which is still the same price as a feeder fare.

Rk 2010 SG

My suggestion:Make 181 rename to Feeder 244 coz it has so little fare stages

SBS really eating money.Was 181 already a Trunk = Feeder?(for one directional)

Its not so easy to renumber service 181 to 244. besides, this service was being put there to service the residents along the Jurong West Ave 3. in my point of view, its not worth renumbering the service

^tamago^ SG

Either way whether 181 is a trunk or a feeder has no effect on the fare if you follow SBST's TITO rule.

Boon Lay Int: Stage 1.0

Stop before & stop after 181 makes the U-turn: Stage 4.5

4.5 - 1.0 = 3.5, which is still the same price as a feeder fare.

As above. Trunk and feeder makes no difference below 3.2km, and the use of trunk services to ferry pax to the nearest bus interchange increases after preferential feeder fares were abolished.

Another example of trunk taking over the role of feeders is the distribution of the load of old Service 266 to trunk services 76 and 138, and feeder services 265 and 269.

NUS and NTU are not part of Clementi and Jurong West New Town respectively, and the services do not serve any residents in the new towns.

sbst275 SG

As for 246, Jurong Int days was that it serves Jln Tukang, Quality Rd, Chin Bee (bus stops where Sv 79 serves), Corporation Rd before going to Corporation Dr/ Taman Jurong Estate & Boon Lay Gardens Estate

Sv 96, 179, 199 are trunk services simply because they exit New Town boundary alrdy. Since when NTU & NUS are part of HDB New Town boundaries?

Feeder services I dun care abt their distance, it's because 240 was amended from Jurong Int to Boon Lay Int that's why route is kinda longer. 242 & 243 was kinda new services from Boon Lay Int and anyway BNL Int is inside Jurong West Extn New Town boundary.

If you want to say this not fair or whatever, then very simple one at every MRT station build mini bus interchanges so tat feeder services all are of uniform distance

sbst275 SG

SBST want to earn more $$ mah..

I guess SBST wont introduce feeder anymore..

Most of SBST feeder svcs merged into one trunk service.

and yup 181 shouldnt be a trunk service..

They dun even earn any extra if you based on the looping point

anyway trunk or feeder, there's no more differences in fares. e most can fight for is for last bus to coincide w/ last MRT timing which is alrdy done for 181's case

jayh272416 SG

and its weird how 334 335 are feeders... they both go form Jurong East to West. 335 even touches 240 at the junction.

sbst275 SG

and its weird how 334 335 are feeders... they both go form Jurong East to West. 335 even touches 240 at the junction.

back when Jurong Int & feeders were up... Taman Jurong Estate was there alrdy but not Jurong West (St 4X & St 5X) & Jurong East New Town till e 1980s

scaniaB7RLE SG

nice topic, ya why nvr chnge 181 to 244 or 24 something. anyways, look at sv 402 & svc 405, should they be renumbered bcos they dont fit the sbst 'parks' thingy.

SBS9888Y SG

doesnt matter. as long as the service u want brings u home can le.

scaniaB7RLE SG

doesnt matter. as long as the service u want brings u home can le.

ya that should be right. dont care if the svc no is 999. hehe