It is good to see different post/opinions by forumers
After I have read them,
Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
question is who's going to absorb the extra costs for granting more
travel concessions to poly students? definitely not the transport
operators as they are doing a business and is already currently
absorbing so much concessions to a significant percentage of the
commuters. They are also not welfare organisations!
Pass on the costs to full-fare paying passengers? then the
middle class will suffer; esp those who do not qualify for
transport vouchers but earn little salaries which i believe form a
large bulk of the population.
or how about impose additional taxes on car owners and these
collections be channeled to absorb public transport concessions,
keep fares low and affordable, improve our public transport
system?
I have to agree his points as there are quite a huge number of
poly students and this may cause the bus company to earn less but
looking from the report for the year 2007, SBS Transit and SMRT
made a profit of $50 million and $135.8 million, respectively after
taxes which I think is quite a huge sum of money. If they are
willing to do that, they can focus on other areas to earn more $$
like what is SMRT doing, building shops at MRT station but still
not compromising on serving bus commuters and service
standards.
I think it is impossible for the both companies to be
nationalised by the government. Even though this may mean that with
under the government control, they may improve greatly on the
management of public transport. Fixing on prices, which may adverse
effect on what is happening to country like Malaysia now. This may
cause to be more dependent on the government. So balanced is
needed.
Originally posted by service_238:
10 years later I will still see this petition. The people who
created this petition do not get the rationale behind the bus fares
between JC and Poly students. Its not about the similarities in
age. Its about the EDUCATION you are
receiving.
I have to agree on what you have mentioned as sometimes people
like me who see this kind of petition will go for the support of it
without thinking deeper of the consequences like what SBS3688Y has
mentioned earlier on. But one need to see that it is difficult to
ask Poly students to work part-time during their school term as
this may affect on their studies. Unless those who are smart or
work in those MLM/land banking investment companies that do not
need to go down often but still able to earn big bucks. They may
have to depend on their salary from what they have worked during
the holiday which may get exhausted soon(what if they need that to
settle their own meals and etc?) or they may
need to get them from their parents, same as those JC
students.
Originally posted by lianamaster:
But because the cohort for polytechnic students is far greater than
JC students, I suppose the govt don't find it financially feasible
to give everyone student rates the JC students are enjoying.
Some people have been joking that if you want to enjoy cheaper
rates... wear school uniform then. But that's more than meets the
eye. There are some (I don't mean everybody) who can afford
blings blings that cost over hundreds of $$$ but complain on
the slightest increase (at most a couple of dollars?) on their
textbooks, meals and fares.
On a general consensus, I feel that the petition can still go
on... but... instead of asking to be charged 45cents, (which I
think the response from the authorities will not be
good), why not ask for a
cheaper concession pass instead? Since most poly
students feel that they are one class above the JC students in
terms of freedom of schooling and the quality of education, they
wouldn't want to be charged anything associated to "student" rates
anymore.... :)
Perhaps they should have a concession pass that are
value for money for Poly students instead. They have to be slightly
more expensive than "student" pass because of their higher
status than normal school kids but cheaper than
university concession pass (maybe around $35 for both bus
and train concession?). $35 should be reasonable because
youngsters frequently hang out to shopping centres and
gatherings during weekends and school holidays; apart from
schooling during weekdays. Sum and average all of them
up, that works out to an average of not more than $1 per
bus trip per day.
I guess if we were to suggest this way, it would be more
negotiable.
I agree with what you have mentioned.
No need for the fares to be the same as JC students
Maybe the structure of the fares can be the same as Jurong
Industrial Service?
Or to be more lenient to the students, can have the fares same as
the Senior Citizens, which charge at flat rate but without the time
limit or whatever, so it will mean for the whole day, 24/7 a
week.
But I think the former might be more acceptable to the bus
company.
Concession wise, maybe the amount can be set at $35 for BCP, $30
for TCP(increase the allowance from 4 trips/day
to 6 trips/day) and $60 for HCP
That's all =)