Route Suggestions

SBS n SMRT SG

bus turns left into CTE, right turn into slip road (near Lor Chuan there), right turn into the Braddell Rd exit, right turn into Braddell Rd and then into BRBP. Sry for not telling.

Yeah i got blur too. Forgive him lah. cross-border in its literal sense means crossing the intl border to another country, and I believe that he thought so too. ppl do make mistakes, let him learn.

but maybe ask him to PM one of you for clarification before positing

That would help in his reputation

SBS n SMRT SG

Do you kow what cross border means?If you don't please check the wikiDictionary.

Cross-Border means that the service can go to Malaysia! Don't you see the"Now you can take the cross-border 950 to Johor!"this message on the SMRT's "Jurong East 3 Min Marina Square 5 Min"below that bar?

Btw, the poster was also seen at one of the entrance to the escalator that leads to the ground level at woodlands

sbs&tibs SG

Do you kow what cross border means?If you don't please check the wikiDictionary.

Don't be so mean. There are things you didn't know too. And that guy you quoted might not be a bus enthusiast at all, and is just giving some suggestions. Would you like peopel to treat you the way you criticised him?

SBS8033D SG

ohoh anyway I wont make my mistakes back again

jayh272416 SG

ohoh anyway I wont make my mistakes back again

:) Glad that you are willing to learn.

SBS n SMRT SG

ohoh anyway I wont make my mistakes back again

SBS8033D SG

lol

But anyway,May I ask why my message sometimes cannot post huh?

Can answer anytime

Just that I am going to suggest a service

Service 209

Bukit Batok Depot to Changi Village

Bt Batok Depot(no bording and Alighting)"
Bt Batok St 23/25(In order)
Hillview Ave
Hume Ave
Upp Bt Timah Rd
Jln Anak Bt
PIE
Adam Rd
Stevens Rd
Orange Grove Rd
Orchard Rd
Paterson Rd
Irwell Bank Rd
Kim Seng Rd
Outram Rd
Cantoment Rd
Keppel Rd
Anson Rd
Robinson Rd
Collyer Quay
Fullerton Rd
Empress Pl
St Andrew Rd
Beach Rd
Raffles Blvd
Temasek Blvd/Ave(In order)
Raffles Blvd
Republic Blvd
ECP(Changi Airport)
Bedok Sth Ave 1
Bedok Sth Rd
Bedok Nth Ave 1
Bedok Nth Rd
Tampines Ave 10/1(in order)
Simei Ave
Simei St 3/4(In order)
Simei Rd
Tampines Ave 2/7/St 45/Ave 9*/12(In order)
Pasir Ris Dr 8/1/Ctrl/3
Loyang Ave
Cranwell Rd
Old Pier Rd
Netheravon Rd
Changi Village Term

Goes back in the same order except

Changi Village Term
.....................
ECP
Rochor Rd
Temasek Blvd
Raffles Blvd
Raffles Ave
Connaught Dr
Collyer Quay
Raffles Quay
Shenton Way
.......................
Zion Rd
Hoot Kiam Rd
........................
Orchard Blvd
Tomlinson Rd
Tanglin Rd
........................
Jln Anak Bt
Upp Bt Timah Rd
Old Jurong Rd
.........................
Bt Batok Depot"

*Will still pass by a sector but express aft Tampines Nth Primary Sch to Ave 12.

"Only Employees can stop at this terminal.

Bold +Underscore=Express!

SBS8033D SG

203 Ang Mo Kio to Harbourfront

Ang Mo Kio Ave 8
Bishan Rd
Braddell Rd
Lor 6 Toa Payoh
Lor 4 Toa Payoh
Lor 6 Toa Payoh
PIE
Thomson Rd
Keng Lee Rd
Kampong Java Rd
Bt Timah Rd
Sungei Rd
Bencoolen St
Penang Rd
Clemenceau Ave
Chin Swee Rd
Tiong Bahru Rd
Henderson Rd
Telok Blangah Rd
Seah Im Rd

204 Harbourfront to Yishun

Seah Im Rd
Telok Blangah Rd
Henderson Rd
Jln Bt Merah
CTE
SLE
Lentor Ave
Yishun Ave 2
Yishun Int

205 Bishan to Clementi

Bishan St 13
Bishan St 11
Bishan Rd
Braddell Rd
Thomson Rd
Whitley Rd
Stevens Rd
Scotts Rd
Paterson Rd
Paterson Hill
Grange Rd
Napier Rd
Holland Rd
Ulu Pandan Rd
Clementi Rd
Clementi Ave 2
Clementi Ave 5
Clementi Ave 4
Clementi Ave 3

206 Ang Mo Kio to Jurong East

Ang Mo Kio Avenue 8
Bishan Rd
Bishan St 21
Marymount Rd
Marymount Lane
Upp Thomson Rd
Thomson Rd
Balestier Rd
Lavender St
Jln Besar
Bencoolen St
Orchard Rd
Penang Rd
Killiney Rd
River Valley Rd
Delta Rd
Lower Delta Rd
Telok Blangah Way
Henderson Rd
Telok Blangah Rd
South Buona Vista Rd
Lower Kent Ridge Rd
Kent Ridge Cres
Clementi Rd
AYE
Clementi Ave 6
PIE
Toh Guan Rd (B07 Block 275 and B08 Opp block 275, rt continues to B01/B02)
Boon Lay Way
Jurong East Ctrl
Jurong East St 13

207 Hougang Ctrl to Jurong East

Hougang Central
Hougang Ave 4
Hougang Ave 8
Hougang Ave 2
Yio Chu Kang Rd
Serangoon Garden Way
Lor Chuan
Ang Mo Kio Ave 1
Bishan Rd
Braddell Rd
Thomson Rd
Whitley Rd
PIE
Bt Batok East Ave 3
Bt Batok East Ave 6
Bt Batok Ave 1
Jurong East Ctrl
Jurong East St 13

208 BRBP to SLBP

BRBP
Braddell Rd
Thomson Rd
Whitley Rd
Bt Timah Rd
Sixth Avenue
Holland Rd
Ulu Pandan Rd
Clementi Rd
Clementi Ave 2
Clementi Ave 5
Clementi Ave 4
Commonwealth Ave West
Clementi Ave 6
AYE
Pioneer Rd
Intl Rd
Soon Lee Rd
SLBP

I don't think that there will be demands for svc 207 and 208 and 207 will be soonly replaced by 51,208 will not be any ddemands unless between routes.

But,don't misunderstand me,I am not trying to say that your services are"boo".I will not do that.

tanjun SG

986 (come invert lah, nothing wrong :D)

Bt Batok to Tampines

Bt Batok Ctrl
Bt Batok West Ave 2
Bt Batok West Ave 4
Bt Batok West Ave 7
Bt Batok Rd
Woodlands Rd
KJE
BKE
SLE
TPE
Tampines Ave 10
Tampines Ave 9
Tampines Ave 7
Tampines Ctrl 3
Tampines Ctrl 1
Tampines Int

Benefits:

Provides fast link between west and east
Partially covers for the withdrawn 985W (BB West Ave 4)
Links Tampines Int to Tampines Ave 10 (currently only 72, which turns out at Tampines Rd)

Amend 58 to use Upp Serangoon Rd -> Bartley Rd -> Upp Paya Lebar Rd
Benefits:
Provides link between Upp Serangoon Rd and Bartley Rd
Provides link to Kaki Bukit
Shortens total travelling time
Provides link to Bishan from Bartley Rd

Yup. Provides fast link between west and east. Will be better if u can stop by at Jalan Kayu. In my opinion, I find KJE, BKE, SLE, TPE rather circuitous but I guess that's the fastest way to reach Tampines. But for demand, I wonder how many people will go Tampines from Bukit Batok or Choa Chu Kang.

Since this service has lots of fare stages which are in express sectors, I guess the demand will have to be there to justify the implementation of this service.

And plz correct me if I am wrong in the info below.

Service 58 is introduced for the secondary purpose of linking Serangoon Ave 3 to Serangoon MRT station.

jayh272416 SG

Since this service has lots of fare stages which are in express sectors, I guess the demand will have to be there to justify the implementation of this service.

And plz correct me if I am wrong in the info below.

Service 58 is introduced for the secondary purpose of linking Serangoon Ave 3 to Serangoon MRT station.

105 goes to Serangoon Interchange doesn't it?

tanjun SG

105 goes to Serangoon Interchange doesn't it?

Yup. But there is quite a distance between Serangoon Interchange to Serangoon MRT. Perhaps people have provided their feedbacks of calling for a new svc from S'goon Ave 3 to S'goon MRT.

jayh272416 SG

Yup. But there is quite a distance between Serangoon Interchange to Serangoon MRT. Perhaps people have provided their feedbacks of calling for a new svc from S'goon Ave 3 to S'goon MRT.

Maybe can make 105 go Boundary Rd -> Upp Serangoon Rd -> Serangoon Ctrl instead, like 103. So can stop at B01A/B02A Serangoon ctrl

Suggestion to change 85 and 161 into Jln Kayu instead. Then can have access to Punggol and Hougang respectively. 969 I tink no need because already got 168 to WDL and 39 to TAM

New rt. 316 (extreme necessity)

Ang Mo Kio to Serangoon Gardens (loop)

Ang Mo Kio Ave 8
Ang Mo Kio Ave 1
Lor Chuan
Serangoon Garden Way
Chartwell Dr
Burghley Dr
Berwick Dr
Tavistock Ave
Hemsley Ave
Kensington Pk Rd
Serangoon Garden Way
Lor Chuan
Ang Mo Kio Ave 1
Ang Mo Kio Ave 8

Why this route? The answer is that serangoon garden residents (and I mean the far inside ones like Brockhampton or Hemsley) currently do not have any link to an NSL Station. This bus will link them with Ang Mo Kio where they can cut down on the money needed (instead of 317 to the circus then 73/136 to the station). An alternative will be to use Bishan, but AMK is better because the int is bigger.

Scania SG

then why not 231G/W be Peak Hr Svcs?

Then I'll whack you, 231 peak hour service, then what about the students and residents, can't expect them to take 59 which doesn't go Int.

jayh272416 SG

Then I'll whack you, 231 peak hour service, then what about the students and residents, can't expect them to take 59 which doesn't go Int.

Maybe new bus stop just outside int like hougang & Kent Ridge

B01B/B02B Lor 6 Toa Payoh (B01B Bef. Lor 2 Toa Payoh, B02B Outside Toa Payoh Int)

Bus services:

5
57
59
151
154
506

This shows the amendmend of 5, 151 and 154 to serve Toa Payoh Town. Rate pls. And BYE BYE 231.

Scania SG

Maybe new bus stop just outside int like hougang & Kent Ridge

B01B/B02B Lor 6 Toa Payoh (B01B Bef. Lor 2 Toa Payoh, B02B Outside Toa Payoh Int)

Bus services:

5
57
59
151
154
506

This shows the amendmend of 5, 151 and 154 to serve Toa Payoh Town. Rate pls. And BYE BYE 231.

Try designing a bus stop outside the interchange that can be linked to the interchange with as much ease as boarding and alighting from a bus in the interchange.

231 is there for a purpose. And I have seen 231 packed to the brim during school dismissal time before. I don't think LTA would allow 231 to be withdrawn in such a case, however pathetic the off peak load can be.

jayh272416 SG

Try designing a bus stop outside the interchange that can be linked to the interchange with as much ease as boarding and alighting from a bus in the interchange.

231 is there for a purpose. And I have seen 231 packed to the brim during school dismissal time before. I don't think LTA would allow 231 to be withdrawn in such a case, however pathetic the off peak load can be.

True. In that case, make 231 AM/NN peak service. Other instances muz take 59.

chikopek SG

SMRT 303 - Choa Chu Kang - Choa Chu Kang Drive (Loop)

CCK Int, CCK Loop (Non stop), CCK Drive, CCK North 5, CCK Way, CCK North 7, CCk Dr (U turn at the end of the road)

Purpose: To provide a bus service in CCK Way outside Kranji Camps, Mowbray Camp in which there are no buses plying the street. I didn't make it to ply Yew Tee is due to the presence of 302 & 307 in CCK Drive, Nth 5 and 7 area and it is a walking distance from Yew Tee MRT to Kranji Camps so demands might be low.

Scania SG

True. In that case, make 231 AM/NN peak service. Other instances muz take 59.

Thing is, its very hard to withdraw a feeder route unless you can merge it with another feeder from another town, or the trunk route replacing it replaces the whole route of the feeder.

Ask you, how do you go about taking 59 from Shop N Save, no one would be willing to walk all the way to NTUC to board 59 (still need to cross bridge), when there is 231G. How about 56, 105 and 153 (towards North) to Opp Blk 56, how is the person take a bus to Lor 1. Don't expect them to take to Blk 237, cross opposite using overhead bridge, then cross Lor 8 either using traffic light or illegally and then take 59. They are supposed to go to the western part of Toa Payoh, and they have to do a bit of walking in the Eastern side of the town if you withdraw 231 as a whole or even during off peak.

Comments from a daily 231 passenger for 2½ years.

SBS9888Y SG

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1279/topics/190840?page=43

there isnt a need for so many feeders. 231 is empty enough le. if you add more feeders, 231's load would be more adversely affected from its current state. 231 is an essential feeder service, without it Lor 1 ould have no link to Toa Payoh MRT/Int and it is usually packed at student dismissal. remembering my primary school days. SBS31L, SBS3654U, SBS3659G - 231G. SBS33G, SBS3663T, SBS3703L - 231W. those were the days.

jayh272416 SG

Thing is, its very hard to withdraw a feeder route unless you can merge it with another feeder from another town, or the trunk route replacing it replaces the whole route of the feeder.

Comments from a daily 231 passenger for 2½ years.

Yep I guess I forgot about that. So 231 does have its good point after all.

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