examples of bad bus-MRT integrations

last SG · 2008-06-04T22:59:59+00:00

I just had to reply~me:1 bus to int in my town1 bus to mrt station in my townminimum 15 minutes to mrt station/int. maximum 40 minutes. no nightriders, no pr...

icky SG

I'm not sure if this is alright to post it here or better at train forum, but anyway, it's always easier to change bus route than MRT tracks.

I live in the western part, so more familiar with the bus services there.

1. Bukit Ho Swee is near to Tiong Bahru MRT, but no bus service to Tiong Bahru

2. HDB blocks along Hoy Fatt road near to Red Hill MRT, but both services, 63 and 139 does not go to Red Hill MRT

3. Mei Ling street area next to Queenstown MRT, the only bus service 64 goes to Red Hill

4. Tanglin Halt, near to Commonwealth, but service 61 only goes to future Holland MRT station.

Does "near to MRT" mean no bus service to MRT?
not everyone wants to walk, especially when raining. I think the bus companies should do a better job in integration, what are your opinions? and do you have more such examples?

^tamago^ SG

Some “Central Stops”, coined during the days of Townlink, are pretty far out.

nenepokey SG

Some “Central Stops”, coined during the days of Townlink, are pretty far out.

hmm...yeah. like at AMK. pax want to change to 265 hav to walk such a big distance along Ave 8 to get to the first bus stop opposite leh...

SBS n SMRT SG

I'm not sure if this is alright to post it here or better at train forum, but anyway, it's always easier to change bus route than MRT tracks.

I live in the western part, so more familiar with the bus services there.

1. Bukit Ho Swee is near to Tiong Bahru MRT, but no bus service to Tiong Bahru

2. HDB blocks along Hoy Fatt road near to Red Hill MRT, but both services, 63 and 139 does not go to Red Hill MRT

3. Mei Ling street area next to Queenstown MRT, the only bus service 64 goes to Red Hill

4. Tanglin Halt, near to Commonwealth, but service 61 only goes to future Holland MRT station.

Can post at two forum at first

My comments

1. Maybe a new route: Bukit Merah Int- Tiong Baharu- Bukit HoSwee and returned at same route.

2. Can take 63 to other MRT station mah, or try a new route: Redhill MRT- Hoy Fatt (SBS- Dennis Dart 2XA/P 1X Peak Hour)

3. Can walk if you have staminia, quite short a distance mah

4. Agree, but beware, after CCL was opened, 61 may be rerouted

Scania SG

I'm not sure if this is alright to post it here or better at train forum, but anyway, it's always easier to change bus route than MRT tracks.

I live in the western part, so more familiar with the bus services there.

1. Bukit Ho Swee is near to Tiong Bahru MRT, but no bus service to Tiong Bahru

2. HDB blocks along Hoy Fatt road near to Red Hill MRT, but both services, 63 and 139 does not go to Red Hill MRT

3. Mei Ling street area next to Queenstown MRT, the only bus service 64 goes to Red Hill

4. Tanglin Halt, near to Commonwealth, but service 61 only goes to future Holland MRT station.

I see that someone lives in Bukit Merah/Queensway area.

For the first one, just walk lah, isn't too far in.

One classic example is the Jln eunos bus stop, no proper direction signs and shelter, you have to walk through the market to the MRT or for 154.

tanjun SG

I'm not sure if this is alright to post it here or better at train forum, but anyway, it's always easier to change bus route than MRT tracks.

I live in the western part, so more familiar with the bus services there.

1. Bukit Ho Swee is near to Tiong Bahru MRT, but no bus service to Tiong Bahru

2. HDB blocks along Hoy Fatt road near to Red Hill MRT, but both services, 63 and 139 does not go to Red Hill MRT

3. Mei Ling street area next to Queenstown MRT, the only bus service 64 goes to Red Hill

4. Tanglin Halt, near to Commonwealth, but service 61 only goes to future Holland MRT station.

lol. My house don't even have a MRT line. I will have to take a bus to the MRT station even after CCL is built.

In addition, my house don't have a shelter to the nearest bus stop.

For your info, I stay at Serangoon North Ave 1.

A long term solution that I recommend to you is that bring along an umbrella whenever you go in case of rainy days. And if you are tired of walking, you can always take a cab.

SBS n SMRT SG

lol. My house don't even have a MRT line. I will have to take a bus to the MRT station even after CCL is built.

In addition, my house don't have a shelter to the nearest bus stop.

For your info, I stay at Serangoon North Ave 1.

A long term solution that I recommend to you is that bring along an umbrella whenever you go in case of rainy days. And if you are tired of walking, you can always take a cab.

For shelter thing, can e-mail LTA, maybe something may be done,

tanjun SG

For shelter thing, can e-mail LTA, maybe something may be done,

Thx for the info. I have sent several feedbacks to the Residents Committee about this matter. I myself admit that it is rather not feastible to build the shelter to the bus stop because in that case, the shelter built will have to be long.

Simple_boi SG

If all of us need to have bus routes that cater just nice for us, I think SBST and SMRT would be in deep trouble trying to think of new routes everywhere? And how many services you want along redhill? Singaporeans just don't seem to appreciate things.

Having new bus, people complain EDS problems, seats too little.
Having old bus, people complain they earn so much money and do not want to invest in new bus.
In a situation whereby SBST and SMRT need to cater the needs of each and everyone of us. You think it is possible?

SBS2695H SG

Then they should buy new buses that have enough seats and with Volgren bodywork.

icky SG

I think what SBST and SMRT have to learn from Hong Kong bus system is that the bus route must be dedicated to certain area. e.g. 61 is just for bukit batok, pasir panjang/telok blangah, then eunos, so u can detour around bb, then take PIE/AYE to telok blangah, not to cater the need for all bukit batok, toh yi, holland village, tanglin halt, alex village, etc...; so for tanglin halt, u can make service 195 go to tanglin halt first, then go commonwealth estate, that's fair. But doing this means passengers must know how to transfer, and the bus fare should be charged by the number of zones, not the number of stages, heard government was going to implement this, but no news after that.

Simple_boi SG

Then they should buy new buses that have enough seats and with Volgren bodywork.

That's your own opinion. Buses have been maximising seats, however, they want to extend bus rides not for just us, and also handicaps. If there are many seats, no place for handicap, wouldn't it be of jus a normal bus without the aim of letting handicap persons to board it?

Simple_boi SG

If you know how and where to transfer bus, there would not be a need to open up this topic. I have no problem with our transport network in Singapore at all.

icky SG

If you know how and where to transfer bus, there would not be a need to open up this topic. I have no problem with our transport network in Singapore at all.

oh... come on... compared to year 1998/99, u know how slow the buses are nowadays

Simple_boi SG

I believe you need to do some research on buses before typing your words here. Bus fans in bus forum know exactly how transport operators have improved their service in terms of frequency, etc. If you think it is getting worse, i think you need to check it out on your eyes cause you didn't even observe anything at all before having a conclusion.

icky SG

so then what have u observed

SBS n SMRT SG

A obvious answer is to refurbish the old bus. Example Lo3x.

Bus engine: Change to VSO/B9TL one

Seats: Change to K230UB one

Front Desto: Change to LAWO eds

Rear destos: maintain

Bus stopping: Change to new one.

Seats at right side of the bottom salon(3 front-facing, TV mobile): Removed and put WAB space

Steps: Removed to become a ramp

I hope this suggestion would drown the Sg pple comment about buses.

Expensive sia

Volvo Olympian SG

A obvious answer is to refurbish the old bus. Example Lo3x.

Bus engine: Change to VSO/B9TL one

Seats: Change to K230UB one

Front Desto: Change to LAWO eds

Rear destos: maintain

Bus stopping: Change to new one.

Seats at right side of the bottom salon(3 front-facing, TV mobile): Removed and put WAB space

Steps: Removed to become a ramp

I hope this suggestion would drown the Sg pple comment about buses.

Expensive sia

Not possible , in fact , the LO3x are not even low floor , and the fact that new buses have to be Euro 4-5 onwards...

sbst275 SG

I think it's more issue of how integrated is it... are there sheltered walkways to e 'central stops' and issue of connectivity

sbst275 SG

Then they should buy new buses that have enough seats and with Volgren bodywork.

design one for us... with 12m length, 2.55m width & height constraints + WAB requirement + wat you said of totally flat buses all e way