Services that needs/does not need certain buses

last SG · 2008-04-25T21:54:57+00:00

Can those ppl who are quarrelling please keep your mouth shut now? It pretty irritating to see arguements here and there..

Scania N113CRB luver SG

I feel that svc 89 does not need the Tridents. Rather, VO3x will do. 74 needs B9TLs and Tridents tho, esp when at Ngee Ann poly there. Under full load, when climbing some areas, the VO3x is really super stressed out. Tridents and B9TLs have enough power to do this job.

Scania N113CRB luver SG

Due to maintanance problem , more or less , spare parts hard to find.

Maintenance is only a small part of it. Most of the problem is that its not feasible and economical for them to maintain these buses.

Superbus SG

But somehow, I find that a VSO seems to make more noise than a VO3x batch 2 or 3 especially on the lower deck. VSOs look good because of Volgren bodywork and the interior, not the engine and I think future buses should have Volgren bodywork. That's why I previouly mentioned for VSOs to be on feeders.

Noise = due to radiator. In fact, the radiator noise affects many of our Volvo/Leyland Olympian buses.

But, I don't see the logic.

Volgren on B10TL = aesthetically-pleasing = feeders.

Meaning 'ugly' buses must not be put on feeders?

What's your definition of 'look good'?

service_238 SG

- Paya Lebar Road/Upp Paya Lebar Rd needs bendy bus services in the interim before Circle Line is complete. Most of the passengers in the industrial developments rely on the bus services as a feeder to the MRT station before and after work. Single decks on Services 24, 135, 43 etc cannot cope with the demand while the double decks from 28 and 76 are not well-utilised because people are not moving to the upper deck, and boarding and alighting activity is slow.

For S28, some trips from the Paya Lebar corridor to Paya Lebar MRT/Toa Payoh are full house - for SDs and DDs.. and people do move to the rear and the upper deck.

sv966 SG

For S28, some trips from the Paya Lebar corridor to Paya Lebar MRT/Toa Payoh are full house - for SDs and DDs.. and people do move to the rear and the upper deck.

Having bendies along such corridors would be more ideal as they allow more efficient boarding and alighting for short-distance, intensive runs. Another candidate would be the Pasir Panjang / Alexandra to Harbourfront MRT corridor.

sv966 SG

Noise = due to radiator. In fact, the radiator noise affects many of our Volvo/Leyland Olympian buses.

But, I don't see the logic.

Volgren on B10TL = aesthetically-pleasing = feeders.

Meaning 'ugly' buses must not be put on feeders?

What's your definition of 'look good'?

Neither do I see the logic between a louder engine noise and fuel consumption.

ceecookie SG

Noise = due to radiator. In fact, the radiator noise affects many of our Volvo/Leyland Olympian buses.

But, I don't see the logic.

Volgren on B10TL = aesthetically-pleasing = feeders.

Meaning 'ugly' buses must not be put on feeders?

What's your definition of 'look good'?

I do not see the link between exhaust noise and fuel consumption.Exhaust noise depends on brand and type of the exhaust system used. Rather it should be the aerodynamics,which is obviously screwed for bus

566117 SG

Frankly I am not surprised that such a motion would surface time and again. Service 24, 26, 53, 135, 139, 145 etc are long time "guardians" of Mercedes, and it is understandable for bus fans like us to wish to see other models of buses on these services to spice it up.

(Once upon a time Services 22, 70 and 133 belonged to this league too, until Volvos finally came in over the past year. And that was because these services had ADDs and hence had rectangular destos).

4 MK4s ever did 54 on the same day, no shortage of rect destos for sure

16/f/lonely SG

All svcs need buses, certain types or not. Laughing

Or should we get pick-ups and lorries to pick us up? Laughing

16/f/lonely SG

I beieve the trident will have a bit of problem also because the gearbox it uses tends to strain the engine greatly when climbing slopes in the midst of gaining speed.

heatblast SG

y don't SBST n SMRT xchange buses withbeach other. Maybe some bendies 4 double decks

jayh272416 SG

y don't SBST n SMRT xchange buses withbeach other. Maybe some bendies 4 double decks

That is a good idea but the companies might not want to.

So why not SBST just go all single deck. Do double-deployment. Same capacity as a double deck, but twice the boarding speed.

SBS2695H SG

That is a good idea but the companies might not want to.

So why not SBST just go all single deck. Do double-deployment. Same capacity as a double deck, but twice the boarding speed.

This means more manpower. Anyway, I will still prefer to have DDs over bendies. DDs are more comfortable.

jayh272416 SG

This means more manpower. Anyway, I will still prefer to have DDs over bendies. DDs are more comfortable.

"more comfortable"? Are'nt the seats the same as those SD ones?

ceecookie SG

I hope Sv. 74 stop getting damned NAC buses

SBS2695H SG

"more comfortable"? Are'nt the seats the same as those SD ones?

When at the upper deck, you will feel less virbrations and it is quieter. DDs are working very well for SBST.

Originally posted by ceecookie:

I hope Sv. 74 stop getting damned NAC buses

The VO2x right? I think they will be retired in 2011 or 2012.

Scania SG

Its not about power or not, its about cost of operating the buses. Tridents have a higher fuel consumption than the other DDs in Singapore. Its either you put it on a service where the load is high for most of the time (like 51, 80, where the cost can be offset by the no. of passengers paying adult fare) or you place it on services like 89 which do not require as much idling/slow moving traffic (which wastes even more fuel) than other services like 74 (which doesn't have an amazing off peak load) and 153. Furthermore, on such services, most of the time, the bus doesn't get out of 1st gear.

jayh272416 SG

When at the upper deck, you will feel less virbrations and it is quieter. DDs are working very well for SBST.

The VO2x right? I think they will be retired in 2011 or 2012.

OIC. Thx for enlightening me!

-3816U

SBS7484P SG

they need SBS9298A. =D

;put this bus on slow poke svc 119 where bc cant chiong, wasted. except in the morning, where immediately turn out from sengkang int will always floor the pedal. nice speed burst.

carbikebus SG

Dunno why this topic shold be allow to go on,really nonsense IMO could lead into another flame war.All buses got their plus and minor points period

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