Johor Bahru bus routes

last SG · 2004-11-06T22:15:58+00:00

most uses those print on the spot tickets now.. also, i havent seen any TMO buses on JB yet.. (but i saw many on KL's Transit Link)

hseochin SG

I've lost count of the buses i've riden on over the past 30 or so years.
But certainly the Volvos like B7F (others call it B57) & B10M have very outstanding suspension ride comfort, in the negative sense however.
In the world of spring or air suspended buses, i so far not encountered anything lousier ! Just as bad would be Leyland Alantean in the spring category.

Bias ? My observations come from repeated rides taken on such models @ various seating locations, driving speeds, road conditions etc. & my judgement is not coming from someone who knows nothing about buses or someone who have not experienced the finer class of buses & coaches, which so far not yet arrived in SGP.

Next time you ride on B10M, make sure to sit @ the extreme rear on a largely empty bus to get a better understanding of the situation. Of course do the same on another model of air-suspended bus or coach & note the differences.
If the bus is loaded up more, the situation improves somewhat but remains inferior to another model also being more loaded up.

Therefore such inferiorities i don't take it as 'bias' but 'real' instead since so easily 'proven' by one taking even a just a couple of rides. That's why i have to maintain firmly my stand on this.

hseochin SG

Until they sort out their teething problems, i suppose meanwhile it's better to view CW3 more as a service between Jurong East & Gelang Patah only & using other transport between Bukit Indah etc. & Gelang Patah ?! Maybe you find a good spot to park your car there & drive there instead. Cannot be too long to reach since between Bukit Indah (big roundabout area) to that station i recall CW3 only took 10 mins. to reach.

A big basic difference of providing transport in Malaysia (compared to in Singapore) is the relatively huge distance from 1 place to another, which puts more strain on resources to implement.

hseochin SG

CW3 makes a few stops in Bukit Indah like @ the big roundabout near some shophouses, further down turning right @ a bus-stop next to more shophouses before turning left with 1 or 2 more stops before heading for Taman Sutera.

Tasik Plaza i believe is located the other end in Taman Tun Aminah so CW3 does not go there. You can take 666 from Gelang Patah station to reach Tasik Plaza. CW3 now stops @ Gelang Patah station.

carbikebus SG

Only our dear SBST Or should i say ComfortDelgro technician pay less attention to the suspension system still i'm do not like much about the B10Ms anyway.The B10BLE are far more better!SMRT bus fleets is rather what i called true citybuses right Mr Mercedes Hseochin Mr. Green

sbst275 SG

Well, luan luan lai is all because of compeition. Everyone trying to complete for a limited number of passengers

Next, abt concession... Let's be frank, in JB, HI gets lots of concession, low road tax of abt RM23, low diesel cost which is subisidised by KL govt. By right, they are in a better position of lower operation cost than SBS or SMRT

Road tax concession in SG? ARE YOU SURE? A SG car road tax is $800 while SBS bus is $1200 a year... In MY, it is RM23 for buses, RM150 for cars.

Next, that guo lu fei. I know other ppl KPKB bef, but, if HI had bargained bef they started the sv, maybe they are in a better position. Is this the 1st time you know SG govt dealing with matters where aft you start your things, any bargain they wun bother one? Rolling Eyes

purplecrazed SG

Not surprising.... already had that experience last week when they first started turning in to GP. I remember last Tuesday morning we waited from 0645hr - 0730hr before the S'pore bus finally came. Then the evening was from 1900hr - 1930hr "stoning" inside the Kotaraya bus.

It was only after much complaints and scolding (or cursing) from us that right now they have improved a lot and lessen the waiting time during peak hours.

For this week alone, the past few days had been good. When going to work in the morning, upon reaching GP, S'pore bus already there and leave almost immediately. Coming home from work, also when we reached GP, driver for Kotaraya bus already behind the wheels & ready to go.

purplecrazed SG

So now only you know lah huh? How frustrating CW3 has been to many of us.... See? It's all because of Gelang Patah..... some more the bus interchange is located so far in..... right into the "kampong".

Can't they erect a new interchange or have another switching base nearer to the GP exit before the highway? Sigh....

surfbabe SG

For this week alone, the past few days had been good. When going to work in the morning, upon reaching GP, S'pore bus already there and leave almost immediately. Coming home from work, also when we reached GP, driver for Kotaraya bus already behind the wheels & ready to go.

That's good news! This proves that Handal Indah does respond to feedback. We have to let them know that it is not because there is no demand for this bus service, but that the quality of the service (timing) is tantamount to its financial returns.

surfbabe SG

For those of you who take the CW3 and 666, please post your bus timing here and the waiting time. I believe that if we combine effort, we can help Handal Indah to improve on its service.

I have not tried this service before, but would like to do so as I intend to take it on a regular basis in the near future.

purplecrazed SG

FIRST BUS DEPARTING FROM GELANG PATAH TO JURONG EAST:
Between 0630hrs - 0640hrs

As to what time the next bus depart after that, I don't know. Maybe there's one departing at 0700hrs? Have to check with HI staff @ GP.

And usually during the MORNING PEAK, it'll take ONE HOUR FROM GP TO JE due to the heavy jam at the lorry lane. (Buses follow the lorry lanes until much nearer to Tuas checkpoint where there's a split for bus lane).

So if the bus departed from GP at 0640hrs, normally will reach JE at 0740hrs.
But if there's no long queue of lorries and CW3 can squeeze through the motorist lane to cut into the bus lane, then between 0720-0730hrs can reach already.

If you want to catch the first bus to S'pore and if you're staying at Bkt Indah, make sure you board the bus that is coming at around 0615hrs onwards.
It'll take at least 10-15 mins from Bkt Indah to reach Gelang Patah.

In the evening peak hours, bus leaves from JE at every 15mins, namely 1730,1745, 1800hrs, etc. But sometimes they also look at the crowd. If there's not many passengers at 1745, then the driver will take his time & only drive the bus out at 1800hrs.

hannwei SG

I think it stops wherever a passenger stands. Some potential locations are:

Gelang Patah

- beside the show village
- in front of the show village
- just after leaving the central town park
- just before reaching the traffic lights near the highway
- just after passing the traffic lights near the highway

Gelang Patah -> Kota Raya

- just before reaching the traffic lights near the highway
- just after passing the traffic lights near the highway
- just after reaching the central town park
- anywhere in front of the shops surrounding the central town park
- near Kelab Indah

I think SP Setia or Majlis Perbandaran Johor Baru Tengah should build two bus stops near the central town park. Bus passengers should not be required to wait in the rain or under the sun.

hannwei SG

Yes. Looks like it is more comfortable to drive to Gelang Patah, park in front of the shops near the Petronas gas station, and board and alight at the two bus stops nearby. Will be good if there are people collecting 2 MYR and take care of the cars for a day........... Lot's of such "private car parks" in Kuala Lumpur.

sbst275 SG

CW3 and 666 better be coodinated arrival time

PJ_Quek SG

666 will serve Plaza Tasek. Other buses include 15, 226, 328 and 504.

hseochin SG

From my actual observations, i certainly don't think (overall) there's no or low demand for CW3. Off-peak departures from Jurong East can exceed 20 passengers, so much so SBST driver kept staring @ the departing CW3 as he drove into the Interchange. He seemed surprised to note the response ?!

On the other hand, departing SBST 160 from Jurong East, even if full, not necessary means the majority have to be heading to Johor, unlike CW3 from Juring East which makes no stops after that till Gelang Patah.

hseochin SG

Agreed B10BLE more suited as citybus than B10M.
O 500 U also have low chassi height.

hseochin SG

Of course HI (for that matter almost any Malaysian operator !) is expected to have lower cost overheads compared to Singapore based operators. The overall lower business costs & cost of living in MY over SGP helps a lot. I'm not surprised therefore even if some Singapore operator were to base their operations in Malaysia instead & even buying their vehicles from there & servicing them there, to get the most from the lower cost envirnoment there.

Therefore no disagreement that HI would tend to have lower cost advantages over SBST or SMRT(TIBS) etc. BUT in order to see the situation in relevant perspective, you have to compare apples with apples & not say with oranges from another etc. So e.g. say HI have lower fuel cost & even assuming if their buses are more fuel-efficient than those from SBST, but because their route distances are much longer the fuel cost therefore need not be cheaper than SBST with far shorter distances to cover per trip per service.

I look forward to the day where SBST or SMRT(TIBS) dares to ply the same route as CW3 via 2nd Link & put up with the increased fuel expense & toll charges etc. then see if they would just dumbly keep quiet or instead speak up against such cost increases as well ! In the case of CW 1 & 2, only then i consider it that HI has any clear-cut lower cost advantage over SBST, SJE or SMRT(TIBS) since the route distance & tolls charged similar. But CW3 clearly NOT in the same boat as any of these !!

Road tax etc. i didn't even bother to mention that ! Do read thoughfully what i've written before jumping to inaccurate conclusions of what others say.

On the issue of toll rates it's my understanding that both MY & SGP like to have similar amount of tolls charged so that'll mean no unilateral decision to alter toll charges unless both sides agree to any changes. Therefore no difference whether between before or after starting since if no consencus say, then no changes !

sbst275 SG

No one dares to run 2nd Link rt...

HI is another one... If they wanna argue abt that $9 toll, they should have done that bef the buses start running... LTA will NOT bother as they would tell you to fly kite as you should have done your studies

Road tax? I must tell you that, what is that concession? Rolling Eyes Now buses have to pay ERP further. Also, in SG, road tax are calculated by CC and not by classification (LTA does not have road tax vehicle classification in the 1st place)... So dun come and tell me what concession you are talking abt unless you say...

purplecrazed SG

Oh y-e-a-h.... I do agree that SBST drivers have been S-T-A-R-I-N-G at CW3..... In fact, almost every morning, upon our arrival at JE interchange, at least one SBST driver would be standing near the alighting platform s-t-a-r-i-n-g at us all ..... a kind of envious look.. Laughing

PJ_Quek SG

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