Dual operator status for 190?

last SG · 2007-05-10T11:36:16+00:00

122 had CRBs after it was shortened to BNV. It was withdrawn from service before it could be converted to PAC.

^tamago^ SG

they can let SBST run a route close enough, using Pending/Rd/Jelebu Rd, and Choa Chu Kang Way. Laughing

carbikebus SG

You think most peoples care about what models?Whatever buses came first they just whack and they dont fuck care whether its low floor or high floor.
I'm againts over SBST monopoly the bus lines,Just like already win before races start,No competition at all,Look at the job industries,Govt asked local to compete with foreigners and you tell me why can't SMRT Buses have their share of pie??Shortage of buses is the reason.

menoob SG

190 has like 1min frequency during evening peak(witness it myself)
thats already very frequent

muziq bus SG

we know, but it is still not enough.

simply because it is faster than trains...20 mins from Scotts to BP

BusSpeeder SG

the frequency very low leh, if sbst control 190 will make it high frequency, juz let smrt con trol 190 still. send 25 more buses to 190 and u see 2 buses come at 1 time, even 3. dat should solve the problem. dont expect buses to come so fast if 190 was to be handed over to sbst. i’ve saw 74 being full despite being a dd bus even when its frequency is the lowest out of all long-trip sbst buses(without loops)(lowest frequency bus is 179 but nt long trip and has loops) and summore can haf 2/3 buses come at the same time with alot of pple still.

Y_Shun SG

when 190 was under SBST, it had more buses for 190. The number of DDs on 190 was more than the number of bendies SMRT gave.

BusSpeeder SG

hmmmmm when it was in sbst was it plying cck to new bridge rd still?

Y_Shun SG

Service 190
- Between Choa Chu Kang interchange and New Bridge Rd terminal.
- Amended to ply PIE and Whitley Rd instead of PIE, Jln Anak Bt/Upp Bt Timah Rd, Dunearn Rd/Bt Timah Rd in 1993.
- Handed to tibs on Sunday 25 Jul 1999.
- Amended to ply Choa Chu Kang Dr and Teck Whye Ave instead of Choa Chu Kang Way in Dec 1999.

BusSpeeder SG

then its because they want to make cck interchange a smrt buses only interchange. even bukit batok became 1 after sbst gave away the int. pasir ris bus int, punggol bus int, bishan bus int, hougang central int, toa payoh int, buona vista terminal, changi village terminal, ghim moh terminal,kent ridge terminal, tuas bus terminal all these are ALL sbst buses only terminal/interchange. only bukit batok int, cck int, bukit panjang int and sembawang int are all smrt buses only int.

if wrong mayb cck int last time has other sbst buses besides 190?

Y_Shun SG

CCK used to be under SBS last time....but because of NEL...then so and so happened.

I do not know the information very well, so ask other people here.

muziq bus SG

i believe 190 used to start from BP under SBS

these are the services that used to terminate at CCK/BB under SBS

CCK SBS svc

67, 75, 179, 185, 188, 190, 301, 302, 303, 307(301+303)

BB SBS svc

61, 77, 106, 122, 173, 175, 189, 361, 365, 367

...based on my memory

chickenlittle2 SG

I dun think SBST can also do a good job. I personally agree that SBST are good in handling deployment of buses during the peak hours. Sadly, they have problem during the off peak hours. Just like svc 242, after 7.40pm, u can see the crowd appears but they only deploy those single decker bus. That cause pple to stand on the stairs and even some unable to board the bus. (BTW, the most passengers moved to the rear.) Express 502 too, u see how sucks are their deployment of buses during the weekends. Heavy loading appears and people standing at the stairs and need to bear this for more than 20mins to reach the next stop.

ZYX2005 SG

heh very EXAgeRated man. but yes thats the main idea why i propose such the crazy idea.

SBSt put stuff n compete like mad. then SMRT red alert warning n alarm sounds n start improving also on 190. then basically the effect is u get 4X better service on 190 compared to now. heck even 45 secs per 190 is not imaginable...consistent 45 seconds per bus. then again: i wonder if thats enough to handle the load.

ZYX

ZYX2005 SG

is not enough. if SMRT cant pull the bus base for 190. maybe SBST can add to the bus fleet bse n make 190 a 45 second or 30 sec freq bus and have more carrying capcity for the 190 bus service. with two its achivable (assuming SMRT hs not enough buses now)

is not a case of competition if we see it like this. but i doubt SBST will leave it as sort of help SMRT. maybe steal the bigger share of the px from SMRT bsed on the fact that SBST cn do downroute n maintain a good freq on 190 if they get the service

ZYX

kengkia SG

hmm..me dun live in keat hong GRC so no relavant MP to ask on....i am just suggesting only...... Laughing if u say so maybe u have a better idea? Rolling Eyes

ZYX2005 SG

ahh MP can.

but i think if no have MP there, u can write in to PTC cc LTA etc

ZYX

service_238 SG

PM Peak for 190 can manage. It only gets overcrowded when the S shifts disappeared. So i propose the S shift drivers to go back kjdep later say 8.30 or 9pm isntead of 7.30 8pm.

AM Peak seriously cannot manage... even with 190A and 2-3min freq... u see 4 190s together, often the first 2 bendies packed to the brim and the other 2 with some standing pax.

sBs_boy SG

I guess, the reason for bunch up is the PIE jam. no choice since the jam build up from 640am onwards.

SBS3688Y SG

perhaps SMRTB is trying to make some svc 190 pax give up and take the trains instead (also under SMRT – can either travel via EW or NS lines)

Scania SG

That is their motive, that was discussed in SBST vs SMRT threads before.

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