the difference between Volvo Super Olympian and Volvo B10TL

last SG · 2007-01-22T17:04:14+00:00

I see. Why were the original panels changed? If the Merc OC500s can't have O405 gauges, I don't see why the Volvo B9TLs can have VSO gauges.

carbikebus SG

Just like Dennis Dart SLF and Enviro 200,Same chassis different names.

SBS3625D SG

There's more to that, the free-turning axle was removed in the VSO, Subsequently since the B9TL was derived from the B10TL, the B9TL lacks the free-turning axle also, if I'm not mistaken.

Scania N113CRB luver SG

Btw that axle is called a 'tag axle'. The only DDs in SG with a steerable tag axle is Dennis Tridents. It helps to make the DD have a sharper turn, just like a 4-wheel steering vehicle. B10TLs, B9TLs the axle is merely used to carry the extra weight, whereas the Tridents tag axle is also used to carry the extra weight, but is steerable, thus while carrying the extra load, it helps the DD turn well too. Wink

Scania SG

Eh very good...., since when the ONLY ones which can turn are Tridents? the Olympians can. Concentrate on your SMRT if you don't take SBS Transit often.

Scania N113CRB luver SG

Hmm the B10TL's tag axle can be steered? I heard from Wikipedia that the second axle as they called it CANT be steered, as said "Due to the change of chassis design, the steering function of the second axle was disabled" from Wikipedia, extracted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_B10TL. Confused If the information provided is wrong, then i have nothing else to say. Neutral

Scania SG

I dint say the Super Olympians (ah what a name for a crap bus). You know what is Olympian boh? The one you see with some Brit bodywork.

Scania N113CRB luver SG

Lol! Yea VSO should have stand for Volvo Slowed Olympian instead. Laughing

Hmm sry, i cant picture what Olympian eh, sry arh ! Embarassed U got any pics mah? Smile

stooper SG

Erm... You know LO3x, VO2x, VO3x?

Scania SG

Yah, lets not confuse this guy, later he will say VO2x no tag axle what so ever.

Volvo Olympian SG

Laughing

bus555 SG

aiya pls lar i will not get confusses easily ok and btw i still need 2 study ok?

Volvo Olympian SG

Since when u was involve in this? did Scania say about you? Rolling Eyes

Scania N113CRB luver SG

Scania's talking about me. Embarassed

SBS3625D SG

I'm afraid not. What about the LO3X, VO3X? And 997A has such an axle also even if its not a DD.

That was why I said the free-turning axle was removed from the VO3X design when the B10TL was derived.

SBS3625D SG

..........

Are you a clone of N113?

SBS3625D SG

Softer footprint.

iveco SG

If I'm not mistaken, the Dennis brand has been superceded by Transbus. Alexander-Dennis is the new name of the holding company, which was formed by the merger of WA body kits (Falkirk) and Dennis chassis (Guildford).

Scania SG

Mayflower group and Plaxton merged with Walter Alexander to form Transbus. Transbus adapted Alexander's and Plaxton's bodies instead of DM (though the DM5000 did surivied into the Transbus product line while they were coming out with Enviro 500). And then became Alexander Dennis when Plaxton was separated (though the Pointer body had already been taken by Alexander Dennis)

iveco SG

British bus history is complicated sia. Now what happened to Plaxton? Surviving on its own?

I still remember there was the Northern Counties and East Lancashire range of body kits for buses.

Scania N113CRB luver SG

Erm guys, does anyone of you know what is a "steerable " tag axle and "non-steered" tag axle? FYI, the Volvo B10MA that SBST used to have also have a tag axle, but is Steerable. SMRT's O.405G's tag axle (or B axle, the middle axle) is non-steered, meaning it cant be steered whatsoever . The LO3x , VO3x and VSO and B9TL also have non-steerable tag axle. You guys really sure that the LO3x, VO3x the tag axle is steerable?

The axle that's pointed at is the tag axle, the one behind it is the drive axle. Are you really sure that this axle(tag axle) can be steered? Razz

From what i believe, in order for the tag axle to be steerable, it must be behind the drive axle, otherwise the vehicle might 'crab-walk". That explains why most of the steerable tag axles found on coaches and city buses are behind the drive axle, not infront of the drive axle.

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